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waxdino ago

Thanks for posting this.
Not to make it political, but the fact is a good many people not willing to accept evidence that "pizzagate" needs investigating are Hillary drones. A big first step to redpilling them is to get them to accept that Clinton is shady. So having a succinct argument, pointing out that her email server was more than a "nothingburger" and not ok, and there's a mountain of evidence of pay-to-play, is useful.

Do you believe that there are organized circles of people involved in human trafficking? Could and have law enforcement and government agencies helped in some way to allow these crime syndicates to continue?

We all know the CIA has trafficked drugs. Is it that great a leap to think the government hasn't dealt in human trafficking? And that slimy politicians wouldn't be getting their grubby little hands on some of the money?

HugoWeaving ago

As a recovering Democrat, I find leaving politics out of the conversation is the only way to make sense of this. That said, of course, I believe Clinton and her associates are very heavily involved in criminal activities, up to and likely including human trafficking in some form. At what level is yet to be determined.

You are correct, historical evidence suggests that government agencies have in the past trafficked drugs, weapons and money, and I would agree it isn't a far leap to traffic human flesh...

The fact of the matter is, however, that "pizzagate" -- ie child exploitation -- has occurred under a lot of different Presidents, on both sides.

waxdino ago

No, the political one isn't an approach for everyone. It's an idea for those people we all know that would immediately jump to "this is another example of Hillary being demonized boo hoo." You may need to take a slow approach that gently reminds them that the many examples of government corruption we all know of includes their dear leaders.

I think most of us here know Democrat and Republican are two sides of the same coin. But if you are dealing with someone that thinks this is still "alt-right trumpers" going after Hillary, the discussion may need to get a little political. I supported neither Trump nor Clinton, but am saying from experience that I've had this discussion with a "she's my President" tard (dear friend, but, yeah), and step one was, can you grasp Clinton is shady? They'll fall back on what they say when backed in a corner- "maybe a little but what politician isn't?" Next step: becoming aware of sweeping government corruption.

HugoWeaving ago

I agree, sadly. The trouble is the opposition has done a marvelous job at subconscious suggestion -- as in, if you're against HER, you're for HIM, etc. Their system shuts down immediately.