Sad to see Carl Jung's name tainted in this article here because of his early association with Freud. They were two very different psychoanalysts. Jung split from Freud because of Freud's obsession with sex and insistence with filtering all human experience through that lens. He developed a more spiritual approach to psychology as well as the concepts of the collective unconscious distinguishing it from the personal unconscious of Freudian psychoanalysis. He argued that the collective unconscious had profound influence on the lives of individuals, who lived out its symbols and clothed them in meaning through their experiences.. There is a vast chasm between Freudian and Jungian psychotherapists and psychoanalysts which lasts to this day.
Jung's close collaboration with Freud lasted until 1913. Jung had become increasingly critical of Freud's exclusively sexual definition of libido and incest. The publication of Jung's Wandlungen und Symbole der Libido (known in English as The Psychology of the Unconscious) led to a final break.
From Wikipedia :
Critics of the collective unconscious concept
They mean Freudians
have called it unscientific and fatalistic, or otherwise very difficult to test scientifically (due to the mythical aspect of the collective unconscious) for those faith-based scientists.[2] Proponents suggest that it is borne out by findings of psychology, neuroscience, and anthropology.
Meaning: can no longer hide the fact that neuroscience and other scientific disciplines are corroborating Jung's theories.
The world of psychology is still largely dominated by Freudian disciples. Please don't get the two men and their work confused. It would be a huge disservice to Jung.
i was told by my own "RA Anon" that it's all very, very compartmentalized and often the people involved don't know the full story or the extent of what they're working on. i personally believe Jung probably didn't know the exact significance of his work for them if he was involved.
yeah i agree with you on this. we have to remember that it's always a smaller handful of people that are actually aware of & involved with issues like trafficking and SRA.
although there probably does exist various connections that the writer of the article lays out, i just don't jive with his perspective and also the conclusions that he jumps to. i'm actually quite interested in consciousness studies myself, at least at one point i was doing some reading about that.
they co-opt everything real and valuable and turn it into shit. they're like reverse alchemists. (within my spiritual frame of reference they literally are reverse alchemists; turning value into shit, manifestation into void, life into death, etc)
it would be painful and baffling if literally every person who ever wondered about higher truths or spiritual growth was secretly in on it for the MK Ultra lulz, so i just can't believe that's the case. Jung had some really valuable ideas and i genuinely don't think he was "in on it."
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cantsleepawink ago
Sad to see Carl Jung's name tainted in this article here because of his early association with Freud. They were two very different psychoanalysts. Jung split from Freud because of Freud's obsession with sex and insistence with filtering all human experience through that lens. He developed a more spiritual approach to psychology as well as the concepts of the collective unconscious distinguishing it from the personal unconscious of Freudian psychoanalysis. He argued that the collective unconscious had profound influence on the lives of individuals, who lived out its symbols and clothed them in meaning through their experiences.. There is a vast chasm between Freudian and Jungian psychotherapists and psychoanalysts which lasts to this day.
Here is a link with a very simple summary about the two men https://www.simplypsychology.org/psychodynamic.html
From Wikipedia :
They mean Freudians
Meaning: can no longer hide the fact that neuroscience and other scientific disciplines are corroborating Jung's theories.
The world of psychology is still largely dominated by Freudian disciples. Please don't get the two men and their work confused. It would be a huge disservice to Jung.
10314366? ago
i was told by my own "RA Anon" that it's all very, very compartmentalized and often the people involved don't know the full story or the extent of what they're working on. i personally believe Jung probably didn't know the exact significance of his work for them if he was involved.
angry_mob ago
yeah i agree with you on this. we have to remember that it's always a smaller handful of people that are actually aware of & involved with issues like trafficking and SRA.
although there probably does exist various connections that the writer of the article lays out, i just don't jive with his perspective and also the conclusions that he jumps to. i'm actually quite interested in consciousness studies myself, at least at one point i was doing some reading about that.
10320379? ago
they co-opt everything real and valuable and turn it into shit. they're like reverse alchemists. (within my spiritual frame of reference they literally are reverse alchemists; turning value into shit, manifestation into void, life into death, etc)
it would be painful and baffling if literally every person who ever wondered about higher truths or spiritual growth was secretly in on it for the MK Ultra lulz, so i just can't believe that's the case. Jung had some really valuable ideas and i genuinely don't think he was "in on it."