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twistedmac11 ago

Gunderson was most certainly a limited hangout, and the CIA is definitely still running psyops against us.

cantsleepawink ago

Yup. And that is why every new person who pops up on the internet to 'lead the charge' needs to be viewed with caution.

twistedmac11 ago

Anyone in a position of power who claims to be dedicated to fighting elite child trafficking/pedophilia needs to be examined. Webb, Seaman, Frost, Jones, Cernovich, even Gowdy and Trump. Not everyone is involved, sure, but we can't just accept people's word at face value anymore. The ones running psyops know what we want to hear/see and know that many of us are placated by pretty words and powerful speeches. The difference is in what actions they take.

Amino69 ago

This^^ It's a litmus test for me when trying to discern the authenticity of a new 'paragon'. Now I'm not trying to teach anyone to suck eggs as I appreciate how switched on many of my fellow voat'ers are but for anyone who is new to this game of sniffing out the shysters, this is my approach.

If the individual in question was once connected to the establishment in any meaningful way and are then free to run their mouth in a critical manner about said powers, it's a big red flag for a limited hangout imo. If they suddenly go dark or wind up dead then they generally get my support but unfortunately this is a pyrrhic victory and always demoralising. The level of media attention one garners is such a reliable method to measure the veracity of someone. If this attention and promotion comes from the MSM, it's a trap! and the same goes for much of the indi/alt media network as this is ostensibly owned and run by the MSM moguls.

Don't just look for criticism against those who appear legit as this can often be contrived subterfuge. Instead concentrate on how little exposure one receives for their actions and promulgations. If they're barely on the radar but resonate and concur with other legit truthers/researchers, this can be a good indicator of their authenticity and trustworthyness. TPTB understand that the best way to make a problem go away (apart from snuffing out life) is to ignore it or sabotage it's ability to become apparent (messing with search results, doxxing, hack attacks, blocking etc). That's why I hold a candle to no one in particular and wrote off Assange, Snowden, Jones et al a long time ago. Unfortunately this also brings into question the veracity of Pizzagate itself, which I do believe is a psy-op but relates to very real crimes committed at the top of world power. It's yet again another limited hangout.

twistedmac11 ago

You hit the nail on the head with everything you just said. These people have turned limited hangouts into a fine art. Psyops on top of psyops. Pizzagate itself is a limited hangout, like you said. People get so up in arms when I say that, but it's true. It doesn't make Pizzagate any less real, it just makes it a less-serious crime that distracts us while they go do something worse somewhere else. It was too perfectly laid out. Then the false flags, like the Comet Ping Pong shooting. We were set up to look like fools from the beginning. Pizzagate was handed to us as a pedophile/trafficking ring operating out of businesses on Connecticut Avenue and involving Hillary Clinton. We managed to find the truth of the matter and take it further. I'm glad to see that there are other Voaters that realize this as well!

Amino69 ago

Thank you and it's reassuring to hear others espouse the now unfortunate but very real position we find ourselves in. There are quite a few Pizzagate naysayers in this community now and as demoralising and incensing as it may be, we cannot pretend and obviate certain facts just to appease our original suspicions and mistakes. We have been played from the very beginning but personally I only realised this concretely a couple of months ago. I have been suspicious of WikiLeaks and Assange for a couple of years now but it was Pizzagate that confirmed their duplicity.

We are up against such an incredibly adroit and unwavering enemy, one that has centuries of experience and nous in beguiling and herding the masses that it's hard not to be impressed...sometimes! As you say it's multi-layered psy-ops on top of psy-ops so making sense of it all is both arduous and perplexing and few stick with it long enough to see the patterns and understand even the basic methodology.

One thing I forgot to mention and I'm forced to contradict myself somewhat reg the judgement of potential legit whistle-blowers is that sometimes it may be deemed beneficial by TPTB to allow these (legit) individuals to castigate them, even concerning sensitive info. This can be regarded as another psy-op but by proxy as it serves to compartmentalise the interests of fellow dissenters thus making it easier for TPTB to monitor a given group and incrementally seed with dis-info agents etc. Also the revelation of truths of this nature (child trafficking, SRA, TBMC) serves as a psychological weapon to demoralise, desensitise and charge emotionally those who engage with it. When one becomes emotionally connected to a subject, objectivity can be impaired and the individual far more susceptible to manipulation. We must observe, learn, remain emotionally disconnected and utilise our greater number to counter their strategies. And just to reiterate, I'm utterly convinced of the type of crimes that Pizzagate pertains to.