Irma Schiffers(S) conversation with Ronald Bernard(R) pt 3
S-After part 1 of our interview quite a lot has happened, it went viral, worldwide. In the meantime we have Spanish subs, Finnish, french, Italy did publish the video, it is really incredible. What happened to you afterwards?
R-Yes, eh.. i never experienced such in my life it even did not come to my mind that this would happen. I was actually doing something very different when we did the interview and perhaps it is good to mention this. I experience a very heavy and intense life, until today, which has split into a first life and a second life, a real death, and.. ive actually decided for myself that last two and half years to do something with the trauma I have incurred and there are quite a few because I got stuck
S- Again..?
R- I got stuck in myself, yes. So ive been lucky enough to embrace a specialist, who was able to deal with trauma processing and from there I made little steps which eventually led me to share with the audience, just like we did
S-Courageous.
R-That is a lot of processing but it also has a lot to do with my new life, which has been running for some 22 years. I started a positive, life, I became a social entrepreneur and I am very committed to life. And I saw, especially from the Netherlands. The Netherlands, as you might say, is quite a country of parochialism. And where often a culture is expanding from out of ignorance, but especially from out of fear. And I already saw it on forehand, because of the manifestations I am working on in my life are becoming so big, worldwide, worn by humanity, that I already felt it. If I do not clear myself up inwardly, as well as outside myself then unfortunately I know the Dutch people and their mentality too well. If something gets beautiful and becomes success, it needs to be broken. That is apparently the tradition in the Netherlands. There are only a few that are praised in the Netherlands. yes, if our soccer team wins a world-championship then we are all happy, and it is positive. But when it comes to the essential things, that are good for us, they often break you down. And I thought, if I get more clean inside and I become more and more strong through trauma processing just like the manifestation outside myself, the moment will come that the Dutch will show their nasty tendency, 'we are going to destroy it'. Then you better clean your own slate completely, make everything clear, where you come from, then they can not do anything with it anymore. Because after all it is not about me, it is about the manifestation, Because once a manifestation has been realized, I am going to start something else. So that is the way I started, to get rid of it from within, it gave me a lot of relief. It freed me enormously, it was really a kind of birth. I also found it very intense. I have to say I have seen worldwide what has happened. In the meantime I have heard that over 18 million people have watched the interview. moreover, about part 2 I am not sure, but from part 1, which has been published before, more than 18 million. Part two, who knows some more, but perhaps the same. That was not just about me but also about the current power structure here on Earth, the financial system, because people need to know about that. But I did not expect this to happen, I did not hope for this either, It was more something for myself and for what I am creating, because I am dealing with a lot of people around me. I have 5000 people in some manifestation gathered around me, in fiver different countries, I bear a lot of responsibility for that, because I once started an initiative, started a manifestation. Perhaps later on we can go in that and what it is all about, but I thought, it is not going to happen that- because of dark period in my past- they are going to break it down. Because trust is hard to gain but easy to lose in the Netherlands. All based on fear, but okay, people do not even know what they are talking about.
S-Where does that come from? Are you talking about the fact that this is something human or is this a matter of conscious control of a higher power structure that the good things will be destroyed?
R- I did... I think it was in part 1, and otherwise it was in part 2, but I did mention -and it seems almost a commercial-0 the protocols of Zion. The protocols of the wise elders of Zion. And I still believe that if people are going to read it, they will better understand what they are in. Yet I have received comments from people who have read it and they were overwhelmed. Really 'wow', we really live in a time, what is written in there, while it is already an old document. So more and more people begin to understand where all the reactions, also from us, come from because we are talking about a 'matrix'. Once they produced a movie about it, it even became a trilogy, three parts. Then I think 'wow, it is just a move' but it shows as clear as possible where most people live in, in a kind of dream that is not real and what if you are part of the dream and then I come up with a story like this, it really happened. I have to say, as far as I know, more than 95/96% which is a rough estimate, is overwhelming positive. They are incredibly positive. Do you know that even for people are praying, worldwide, that teams are formed to support you, to be able to continue your work?
S- Yes, that is beautiful
R-It is incredible what has happened. One the other hand we have also seen poison, coming our way, the arsenic the biological meal was the reaction, with a touch of arsenic in it to break it down. Most of the time it is an energetic mechanism, that sometimes works through them without even knowing, it works on their fear, because when I am speaking the truth, then it becomes a real possibility that the world and the reality they live in, their comfort, is going to shake.
S-Is breaking down, yes.
R-And that is scary, because change is scary.
S-Yes.
R-So you are already afraid, and you got some more fears. Then it is far more easy and they tried to do that to me in the meantime, to break me down, and trying to prove that I am a liar, a fantasist, and mention the whole range of what you can imagine for not accepting the truth, because I am speaking the truth. This is the reason why I am married to a woman for more than 10 years, for this. I say what I say, I do what I do, and that is right. Because I have not so much to hide. I am hiding something about my old life, my first life. That is pure protection for myself but also many others, but over the last 22 years that I came back and really became who I am, you can ask me anything.
S- Yes, because that is the hardest part, what you are telling now, you can not talk about those things, out of protection for yourself and others.
R- Yes.
S- I understand that very well, but of lot of people are using that as an argument to say that you are a fantasist, that it is not true what you are saying and that you apparently have another agenda. How do you look at it and what can say about it?
R- Yes, i get that very well. I mean, what they ask, is.. I know someone who said, give me a 'curriculum vitae'. yes, and I look at it, and I think boy oh boy, how can you ask such a thing. I mean, I can not, first I have no CV, I always was an entrepreneur, how can I write a CV about my first life. That self-employment also including cars, textile, the ladies fashion line, in import and export, those were the top layers, do you really think back them, that I was a Saint? Hello! I was just a top criminal, okay? How bad do you want me to tell myself that I was bad? Do i need to tell that I am a murderer, which I am not? I mean, what do they tell me about that? I can not tell anything and it is quite simple, everything I say for the people whoa re still alive, I will draw them along with me. Actually it comes down to 'over and out'. And all of that because I need to prove that it is like this? One can also look into the worldwide investigations and testimonies that already exist, because I am not the first one. It is a lot worst, it is timeless. Once there was a rebel, he was a carpenter, he performed miracles here on Earth, he told us who he was, he was the son of the highest supreme, Yes, he did miracles and they still did not believe him. No, you know who he was? He came from the devil, he was a Satanist, yes? How much more do people need to know to see what is going on here on Earth, how much? How much? And I do understand what they are talking about. of course, I can understand that. They can not understand what I am about about, because it is not apart of their life. That is not possible. I mean, it is the same with the breaking point you asked for, which was very difficult for me. I was invited. Do you really think they say 'Hey Ronald, we have a party, come on, we are going to chop little children.'
[12m:11s]S-No of course it does not work like that.
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LionElTrump ago
Irma Schiffers(S) conversation with Ronald Bernard(R) pt 3
S-After part 1 of our interview quite a lot has happened, it went viral, worldwide. In the meantime we have Spanish subs, Finnish, french, Italy did publish the video, it is really incredible. What happened to you afterwards?
R-Yes, eh.. i never experienced such in my life it even did not come to my mind that this would happen. I was actually doing something very different when we did the interview and perhaps it is good to mention this. I experience a very heavy and intense life, until today, which has split into a first life and a second life, a real death, and.. ive actually decided for myself that last two and half years to do something with the trauma I have incurred and there are quite a few because I got stuck
S- Again..?
R- I got stuck in myself, yes. So ive been lucky enough to embrace a specialist, who was able to deal with trauma processing and from there I made little steps which eventually led me to share with the audience, just like we did
S-Courageous.
R-That is a lot of processing but it also has a lot to do with my new life, which has been running for some 22 years. I started a positive, life, I became a social entrepreneur and I am very committed to life. And I saw, especially from the Netherlands. The Netherlands, as you might say, is quite a country of parochialism. And where often a culture is expanding from out of ignorance, but especially from out of fear. And I already saw it on forehand, because of the manifestations I am working on in my life are becoming so big, worldwide, worn by humanity, that I already felt it. If I do not clear myself up inwardly, as well as outside myself then unfortunately I know the Dutch people and their mentality too well. If something gets beautiful and becomes success, it needs to be broken. That is apparently the tradition in the Netherlands. There are only a few that are praised in the Netherlands. yes, if our soccer team wins a world-championship then we are all happy, and it is positive. But when it comes to the essential things, that are good for us, they often break you down. And I thought, if I get more clean inside and I become more and more strong through trauma processing just like the manifestation outside myself, the moment will come that the Dutch will show their nasty tendency, 'we are going to destroy it'. Then you better clean your own slate completely, make everything clear, where you come from, then they can not do anything with it anymore. Because after all it is not about me, it is about the manifestation, Because once a manifestation has been realized, I am going to start something else. So that is the way I started, to get rid of it from within, it gave me a lot of relief. It freed me enormously, it was really a kind of birth. I also found it very intense. I have to say I have seen worldwide what has happened. In the meantime I have heard that over 18 million people have watched the interview. moreover, about part 2 I am not sure, but from part 1, which has been published before, more than 18 million. Part two, who knows some more, but perhaps the same. That was not just about me but also about the current power structure here on Earth, the financial system, because people need to know about that. But I did not expect this to happen, I did not hope for this either, It was more something for myself and for what I am creating, because I am dealing with a lot of people around me. I have 5000 people in some manifestation gathered around me, in fiver different countries, I bear a lot of responsibility for that, because I once started an initiative, started a manifestation. Perhaps later on we can go in that and what it is all about, but I thought, it is not going to happen that- because of dark period in my past- they are going to break it down. Because trust is hard to gain but easy to lose in the Netherlands. All based on fear, but okay, people do not even know what they are talking about.
S-Where does that come from? Are you talking about the fact that this is something human or is this a matter of conscious control of a higher power structure that the good things will be destroyed?
R- I did... I think it was in part 1, and otherwise it was in part 2, but I did mention -and it seems almost a commercial-0 the protocols of Zion. The protocols of the wise elders of Zion. And I still believe that if people are going to read it, they will better understand what they are in. Yet I have received comments from people who have read it and they were overwhelmed. Really 'wow', we really live in a time, what is written in there, while it is already an old document. So more and more people begin to understand where all the reactions, also from us, come from because we are talking about a 'matrix'. Once they produced a movie about it, it even became a trilogy, three parts. Then I think 'wow, it is just a move' but it shows as clear as possible where most people live in, in a kind of dream that is not real and what if you are part of the dream and then I come up with a story like this, it really happened. I have to say, as far as I know, more than 95/96% which is a rough estimate, is overwhelming positive. They are incredibly positive. Do you know that even for people are praying, worldwide, that teams are formed to support you, to be able to continue your work?
S- Yes, that is beautiful
R-It is incredible what has happened. One the other hand we have also seen poison, coming our way, the arsenic the biological meal was the reaction, with a touch of arsenic in it to break it down. Most of the time it is an energetic mechanism, that sometimes works through them without even knowing, it works on their fear, because when I am speaking the truth, then it becomes a real possibility that the world and the reality they live in, their comfort, is going to shake.
S-Is breaking down, yes.
R-And that is scary, because change is scary.
S-Yes.
R-So you are already afraid, and you got some more fears. Then it is far more easy and they tried to do that to me in the meantime, to break me down, and trying to prove that I am a liar, a fantasist, and mention the whole range of what you can imagine for not accepting the truth, because I am speaking the truth. This is the reason why I am married to a woman for more than 10 years, for this. I say what I say, I do what I do, and that is right. Because I have not so much to hide. I am hiding something about my old life, my first life. That is pure protection for myself but also many others, but over the last 22 years that I came back and really became who I am, you can ask me anything.
S- Yes, because that is the hardest part, what you are telling now, you can not talk about those things, out of protection for yourself and others.
R- Yes.
S- I understand that very well, but of lot of people are using that as an argument to say that you are a fantasist, that it is not true what you are saying and that you apparently have another agenda. How do you look at it and what can say about it?
R- Yes, i get that very well. I mean, what they ask, is.. I know someone who said, give me a 'curriculum vitae'. yes, and I look at it, and I think boy oh boy, how can you ask such a thing. I mean, I can not, first I have no CV, I always was an entrepreneur, how can I write a CV about my first life. That self-employment also including cars, textile, the ladies fashion line, in import and export, those were the top layers, do you really think back them, that I was a Saint? Hello! I was just a top criminal, okay? How bad do you want me to tell myself that I was bad? Do i need to tell that I am a murderer, which I am not? I mean, what do they tell me about that? I can not tell anything and it is quite simple, everything I say for the people whoa re still alive, I will draw them along with me. Actually it comes down to 'over and out'. And all of that because I need to prove that it is like this? One can also look into the worldwide investigations and testimonies that already exist, because I am not the first one. It is a lot worst, it is timeless. Once there was a rebel, he was a carpenter, he performed miracles here on Earth, he told us who he was, he was the son of the highest supreme, Yes, he did miracles and they still did not believe him. No, you know who he was? He came from the devil, he was a Satanist, yes? How much more do people need to know to see what is going on here on Earth, how much? How much? And I do understand what they are talking about. of course, I can understand that. They can not understand what I am about about, because it is not apart of their life. That is not possible. I mean, it is the same with the breaking point you asked for, which was very difficult for me. I was invited. Do you really think they say 'Hey Ronald, we have a party, come on, we are going to chop little children.'
[12m:11s]S-No of course it does not work like that.
purpleabyss ago
I have started working on a transcript, will probably finish tomorrow evening.