It was a simple prostitution sting. Move along this is left wing bullsh*t. Now these left wing nuts are calling people who use prostitutes "sex buyers".
The story is so much more complex than that. Perhaps look into it and bring your research back to the group . Btw that phrase you mention was said by one journalist. One.
There were children being sexually abused. This is a big story as it relates to the connection between the trucking industry and human trafficking, including child sex trafficking
That's incredibly frustrating. You can keep arresting the buyers who are looking for sex (sex will always be high in demand, arrest one buyer and another takes his place), but that doesnt place any penalties on the pimps who keep soliciting the prostitutes/sex slaves.
no worries, I appreciate your apology. hey, the weekend is here! I hear what you're saying, and I'm open to it, but it changes things for me that kids were involved. I also think that human trafficking very often doesn't involve boxes and chains (of course it often does), and that people often fail to see it for what it is because of that. there is kidnapping and slavery, but there is also Stockholm syndrome, there is forcing people into drug addiction, there is preying on undocumented people and using threats and coercion, etc. it's complex.
I totally hear you though, and I am going to work to try to see through any bullshit, or to address it when I post. I also think "regular prostitution" very often involves threats, violence, sexual violence, psychological abuse, bondage, and so many horrible things... that there is no clear line between prostitution and trafficking, more like a continuum. I've never heard of a prostitute being out there on the street because they want to be. I also think there is no clear link between child trafficking and prostitution... it seems like at some magical age people stop caring because they see them as "whores" instead of "children" anymore. An 18 year old prostitute (for example) very likely has an extensive history of trauma, likely sexual abuse and other abuse, possibly violence and human trafficking.
of course I mean well. thank you for the apology. I feel like that's what comments are for, what mods are for, what the voting system is for. I think if someone thinks an article posted is full of shit, it doesn't mean we have to attack the OP and it doesn't mean they are a shill- especially if they have valid sources. it's the place for good conversation.
there is no reason to cause in-fighting. for all you know, after you posted that, perhaps I agreed. something like that can be good for all PG'ers, looking at these articles together and figuring out what's bullshit and what isn't. the battle isn't amongst ourselves unless you make it that way. as for the title, I paraphrased the titles of the two articles I posted, I did not "create a misleading title". you have a great day, too.
I'm not trying to spam or be misleading. that's what the mods and the voting system is for. also you said this article is just "dudes with prostitutes," but it relates to child sexual trafficking. a child being raped is not a prostitute
I had a feeling at first, and so it is true. So this may definitely be Fake News, then if they are. It is still horrible, for those women or young ladies are in need of help as well. We know they are living a life of drugs and trying to make ends meet. But the children, they will one day become prostitutes as well, if not killed first. This is so very very sad all the way around.
It is so very important to make sure you accompany your kids to the restroom. Lots of parents think since they are in a family place that their kids are safe, not anymore. They can't wait to get their hands on them.
Yes! Last summer a little boy was stabbed to death at a state park while his family was at a picnic table near the restroom! I don't let my sons go into the men's room at stores or restaurants etc until they're 10. Everyone thinks I'm crazy, but if my husband isn't with us and there's no family restroom for me to accompany him in, he's got to use the ladies room so I can stand watch (not in the stall)
I never have a problem with women bringing their boys into the ladies room. I just wonder what men are to do when they take a daughter out. It's not exactly a good thing for a little girl to see men using the urinals if they are brought to a men's room. Possibly they can wait until a lady enters the lady's room and then send her in. There is not much of a choice for them. This is why I have always been against urinals. When boys do go into the men's room finally alone, when they use the urinal a pedophile could be standing next to him. I prefer stalls for everyone with walls from top to bottom.
Absolutely. The whole no stalls thing is bizarre for so many reasons.
My brother was shopping at target or Costco with his 3 year old while my sisterinlaw was recovering from a csection. His 3 year old who was potty training had to go to the bathroom so he asked a lady to take her into the bathroom. My sister in law told him he should have her let her potty in the parking lot. Lol.
What he did was OK, I would not mind taking a little kid in with me, and I think most women would not. Come to think of it, my husband, when he was in school, the boys were told to swim in the nude in the school's pool. Can you believe it, I think that is disgusting. Something is wrong about that. Sounds like something Hastert would cook up. This stuff has got to stop, it has been going on for decades.
It is always helpful for these to happen but I want to explain to everyone what you are seeing with these "John stings" These guys are the lowest hanging fruit of all. These "John Stings" have been going on in cities for decades. Remember "to catch a predator"
The real traffickers are not caught in these stings. They do not use the known types of communication listed. This is all done through the dark web and other ways. Sad but true. Unless the FBI is empowered to turn on itself and politicians no big guys will go down this way.
Edit: Just to drive in the succinct point when you here "John" or "sting" or "Operation" before anything you are getting a light cover story trying to appease the masses.
You are exactly right. These arrests are only for cover, headlines, and revenue generation including grants and foundations.
Wisconsin and I-94 is a main trafficking arm up from Chicago over to Minnesota and the Dakotas (also linked to Quad Cities over to Omaha), and the very people and groups involved in trafficking and extreme corruption are the ones behind the organizations claiming to be investigating it.
The "root" and model is in Racine, where they formed the Anti-Trafficking Coalition, The Fight to End Exploitation and the I-94 Project which have connections to elite players in the area as well as the Clinton Foundation, McCain Foundation and Institute, and celebrities including Caron Butler, Kristin Bauer van Straten, Tom DeLonge and Ashton Kutcher. They are all involved.
These programs are also tied to sanctuary cities, education reform, prison reform, mafia, gangs, Racine Social Justice League, Racine Interfaith Coalition, foundations, PACs, clubs and organizations, corrupt churches, corrupt law enforcement, and secret societies. Many of those involved have been exposed and they since have deleted web sites and Facebook pages, destroyed evidence, targeted and stalked witnesses, and changed many of the players sudden retirements, resignations and transfers.
They are in cover up mode. Wisconsin is the weak link. This is all orchestrated. There is more to the Amazon and Foxconn deals than people realize. Racine, Wisconsin if the key to exposing the entire system and letting the world know the Truth about the real agenda - Global Enslavement and the Mark of the Beast.
Your welcome. I just don't want people to get false hope and begin to recognize the signed of the cover story. We can not be appeased and they need to know this. "John Stngs" is not going to cut it. Arrest of high level government politicians, militatray, law enforcement, CIA etc. is the only thing we will settle for.
i agree. there are clearly people above the johns organizing this, and it's infuriating to see zero evidence of them getting in trouble. you are not the only one waiting to see the big guys go down
Thank you and yes, but it is just a cover by arresting the low hanging fruit. The real kingpins are protected by many layers of insulation, and use these sting operations as cover for the bigger moves. They are the ones funding and organization the Anti-Trafficking coalitions so they can control the investigation and narrative.
This is a weekly occurrence under the Trump Administration. With a strong link to the DNC and sex trafficking, it's no mystery to me why the DNC is currently 3.3 million in debt. They are losing all their slaves and their plantations are being destroyed.
How about it Wisconsinites? Is this for real? @Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt so it is hard to believe, but I am wishing and hoping. Over 1K rescued is a sizable number of rescues. Wonderful if true. @fogdryer
Also, check the numbers. No where is there a mention of rescued minors or others. Just 34 Johns, yes, johns arrested for trying to get laid. This is misleading and I wonder why it's left up?
Yeah, I wanted to believe it, but that number was way out of line and knowing them, I had reservations. I so wanted it to be true, like everyone else. Liars.
This is all a cover up. The real people and groups involved at the higher levels are the groups connected to the organizations claiming to be working on Anti-Trafficking and Anti-Corruption programs. Wisconsin is a cesspool of extreme corruption at all levels. This is just for headlines and to falsely justify the work of the groups that are involved in trafficking and corruption.
Law enforcement in Wisconsin is complicit to any crimes involving officials and the elite. It goes beyond the Marquette mafia but that is one of many groups that connect judges and attorneys around the state. These groups will leverage children, homeless, abuse victims, veterans, seniors, churches and anything they can to cover up the real Truth. They are all in the same clubs and societies together, and provide protection to others in the group.
Look into the Anti-Trafficking Coalition, The Fight to End Exploitation, and the I-94 Project. These are connected to a coalition of corrupt foundations, organizations, institutions, celebrities, and religious groups including Jesuit, LDS, OTO, Scientology, and Kabbalah.
They need to be exposed for what they really are - a model for trafficking, corruption, and the real agenda of Global Enslavement.
I had a sinking feeling that the information was a cover up. Of course I was hoping for a better outcome but knowing what you have written about Racine and Wisconsin State, I knew the chances were slim. Thank you for responding.
Yes but I meant it's not a neonettle type site this is coming from. The local news usually gets the truth about their city right. I wouldn't expect my local news channel to report 35 arrests in my city if those arrests were fabricated.
Hmm. I just don't trust that whole state now. They could be staging these, to take the pressure down, to make us think things are cleaning up. I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but they don't deserve our respect. I am hoping that maybe, just maybe, there is a group of White Hat LE left in Wi.
I'm guessing it's only a dog and pony show for exactly the reason you suggest-- to let a little steam escape and make people think LE is actually going after the monsters. I haven't checked, but I'd be surprised if it's actual people actually being arrested who will actually be convicted and serve actual time. I would love, absolutely LOVE to be wrong on this.
I was so hoping, but in my heart I had a bad feeling. They that are responsible for trying to pull the wool over our eyes should be strung up along with the pedo elite, for they are spreading lies. Thank you for stating it so eloquently. Upvoat.
fakealert ago
FAKE NEWS!
It was a simple prostitution sting. Move along this is left wing bullsh*t. Now these left wing nuts are calling people who use prostitutes "sex buyers".
3141592653 ago
The story is so much more complex than that. Perhaps look into it and bring your research back to the group . Btw that phrase you mention was said by one journalist. One.
tapsnapornap ago
Ah, "sex" buyers, not pedophiles. My mistake!
3141592653 ago
There were children being sexually abused. This is a big story as it relates to the connection between the trucking industry and human trafficking, including child sex trafficking
Flaaffy ago
That's incredibly frustrating. You can keep arresting the buyers who are looking for sex (sex will always be high in demand, arrest one buyer and another takes his place), but that doesnt place any penalties on the pimps who keep soliciting the prostitutes/sex slaves.
/:
3141592653 ago
thanks, you too!!!
10145107? ago
@ESOTERICshade @3141592653 Good work! I appreciate you ALL.
3141592653 ago
Much appreciated
3141592653 ago
no worries, I appreciate your apology. hey, the weekend is here! I hear what you're saying, and I'm open to it, but it changes things for me that kids were involved. I also think that human trafficking very often doesn't involve boxes and chains (of course it often does), and that people often fail to see it for what it is because of that. there is kidnapping and slavery, but there is also Stockholm syndrome, there is forcing people into drug addiction, there is preying on undocumented people and using threats and coercion, etc. it's complex.
I totally hear you though, and I am going to work to try to see through any bullshit, or to address it when I post. I also think "regular prostitution" very often involves threats, violence, sexual violence, psychological abuse, bondage, and so many horrible things... that there is no clear line between prostitution and trafficking, more like a continuum. I've never heard of a prostitute being out there on the street because they want to be. I also think there is no clear link between child trafficking and prostitution... it seems like at some magical age people stop caring because they see them as "whores" instead of "children" anymore. An 18 year old prostitute (for example) very likely has an extensive history of trauma, likely sexual abuse and other abuse, possibly violence and human trafficking.
3141592653 ago
I don't understand.
3141592653 ago
of course I mean well. thank you for the apology. I feel like that's what comments are for, what mods are for, what the voting system is for. I think if someone thinks an article posted is full of shit, it doesn't mean we have to attack the OP and it doesn't mean they are a shill- especially if they have valid sources. it's the place for good conversation.
3141592653 ago
there is no reason to cause in-fighting. for all you know, after you posted that, perhaps I agreed. something like that can be good for all PG'ers, looking at these articles together and figuring out what's bullshit and what isn't. the battle isn't amongst ourselves unless you make it that way. as for the title, I paraphrased the titles of the two articles I posted, I did not "create a misleading title". you have a great day, too.
3141592653 ago
that kids are being trafficking and raped? not sure why you're here then....
3141592653 ago
this report discusses children being raped and trafficked
3141592653 ago
wow. do you have a link?
3141592653 ago
I'm not trying to spam or be misleading. that's what the mods and the voting system is for. also you said this article is just "dudes with prostitutes," but it relates to child sexual trafficking. a child being raped is not a prostitute
10140718? ago
Human Trafficking
Defined In dictionary.com
Is the illegal practice of procuring or trading in
human beings for the purpose of:
Prostitution
Forced Labor
Or other forms of exploitation.
10140213? ago
Many prostitutes are still working for the people who originally trafficed/snatched them and own them now.
They are not working solo and because they want to.
10140054? ago
Have to reserve my opinion on @ESOTERICshade comment here.
So far I'm thinking you can't beat the OP of this sub.
Has been smack on the money for at least the
last two to three months I have been lurking.
.. Original.
And most importantly smart.
I tend to read all this OP @3141592653 output.
3141592653 ago
MUCH APPRECIATED
10141251? ago
My mother was a journalist! I like your style. Professional.
Thank you.
3141592653 ago
thank you very much
carmencita ago
I had a feeling at first, and so it is true. So this may definitely be Fake News, then if they are. It is still horrible, for those women or young ladies are in need of help as well. We know they are living a life of drugs and trying to make ends meet. But the children, they will one day become prostitutes as well, if not killed first. This is so very very sad all the way around.
kidavenger ago
Who downvoated that comment? Even the shills can't be that heartless. Wait, they're shills. nvm. Wish I could give you two upvoats to counter it.
carmencita ago
They down voat almost everything I say. They want me to go away. There are two that are very voracious. They know who they are.
10139791? ago
When you talk about children traffic, you usually
have to talk about drug running in Wisconsin:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1976594
And Crime In General:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1974574
10139714? ago
About 20 Wisconsin Counties.
What we have already found out:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1989512
@fogdryer
10139682? ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1991463
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1991408
Looking back at what we have already found out about Wisconsin.
carmencita ago
It is so very important to make sure you accompany your kids to the restroom. Lots of parents think since they are in a family place that their kids are safe, not anymore. They can't wait to get their hands on them.
Godwillwin ago
Yes! Last summer a little boy was stabbed to death at a state park while his family was at a picnic table near the restroom! I don't let my sons go into the men's room at stores or restaurants etc until they're 10. Everyone thinks I'm crazy, but if my husband isn't with us and there's no family restroom for me to accompany him in, he's got to use the ladies room so I can stand watch (not in the stall)
carmencita ago
I never have a problem with women bringing their boys into the ladies room. I just wonder what men are to do when they take a daughter out. It's not exactly a good thing for a little girl to see men using the urinals if they are brought to a men's room. Possibly they can wait until a lady enters the lady's room and then send her in. There is not much of a choice for them. This is why I have always been against urinals. When boys do go into the men's room finally alone, when they use the urinal a pedophile could be standing next to him. I prefer stalls for everyone with walls from top to bottom.
Godwillwin ago
Absolutely. The whole no stalls thing is bizarre for so many reasons.
My brother was shopping at target or Costco with his 3 year old while my sisterinlaw was recovering from a csection. His 3 year old who was potty training had to go to the bathroom so he asked a lady to take her into the bathroom. My sister in law told him he should have her let her potty in the parking lot. Lol.
carmencita ago
What he did was OK, I would not mind taking a little kid in with me, and I think most women would not. Come to think of it, my husband, when he was in school, the boys were told to swim in the nude in the school's pool. Can you believe it, I think that is disgusting. Something is wrong about that. Sounds like something Hastert would cook up. This stuff has got to stop, it has been going on for decades.
Jem777 ago
It is always helpful for these to happen but I want to explain to everyone what you are seeing with these "John stings" These guys are the lowest hanging fruit of all. These "John Stings" have been going on in cities for decades. Remember "to catch a predator"
The real traffickers are not caught in these stings. They do not use the known types of communication listed. This is all done through the dark web and other ways. Sad but true. Unless the FBI is empowered to turn on itself and politicians no big guys will go down this way.
Edit: Just to drive in the succinct point when you here "John" or "sting" or "Operation" before anything you are getting a light cover story trying to appease the masses.
Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt ago
You are exactly right. These arrests are only for cover, headlines, and revenue generation including grants and foundations.
Wisconsin and I-94 is a main trafficking arm up from Chicago over to Minnesota and the Dakotas (also linked to Quad Cities over to Omaha), and the very people and groups involved in trafficking and extreme corruption are the ones behind the organizations claiming to be investigating it.
The "root" and model is in Racine, where they formed the Anti-Trafficking Coalition, The Fight to End Exploitation and the I-94 Project which have connections to elite players in the area as well as the Clinton Foundation, McCain Foundation and Institute, and celebrities including Caron Butler, Kristin Bauer van Straten, Tom DeLonge and Ashton Kutcher. They are all involved.
These programs are also tied to sanctuary cities, education reform, prison reform, mafia, gangs, Racine Social Justice League, Racine Interfaith Coalition, foundations, PACs, clubs and organizations, corrupt churches, corrupt law enforcement, and secret societies. Many of those involved have been exposed and they since have deleted web sites and Facebook pages, destroyed evidence, targeted and stalked witnesses, and changed many of the players sudden retirements, resignations and transfers.
They are in cover up mode. Wisconsin is the weak link. This is all orchestrated. There is more to the Amazon and Foxconn deals than people realize. Racine, Wisconsin if the key to exposing the entire system and letting the world know the Truth about the real agenda - Global Enslavement and the Mark of the Beast.
Rmm ago
sad but true
SoldierofLight ago
Thank you for stating the hard facts.
Jem777 ago
Your welcome. I just don't want people to get false hope and begin to recognize the signed of the cover story. We can not be appeased and they need to know this. "John Stngs" is not going to cut it. Arrest of high level government politicians, militatray, law enforcement, CIA etc. is the only thing we will settle for.
3141592653 ago
I agree
3141592653 ago
i agree. there are clearly people above the johns organizing this, and it's infuriating to see zero evidence of them getting in trouble. you are not the only one waiting to see the big guys go down
Hall_of_Cost ago
@Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt did you see this?
Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt ago
Thank you and yes, but it is just a cover by arresting the low hanging fruit. The real kingpins are protected by many layers of insulation, and use these sting operations as cover for the bigger moves. They are the ones funding and organization the Anti-Trafficking coalitions so they can control the investigation and narrative.
KILLtheRATS ago
Havent seen him for a while
3141592653 ago
Here is a better link with more information and a video http://www.weau.com/content/news/439859663.html
gentlemanadventurer ago
This is a weekly occurrence under the Trump Administration. With a strong link to the DNC and sex trafficking, it's no mystery to me why the DNC is currently 3.3 million in debt. They are losing all their slaves and their plantations are being destroyed.
Alois_sticklgruber ago
5 upvoates.
Wow
new4now ago
I see 35 Johns arrested in this article.
Can you supply a link on the other stuff? Thank You
3141592653 ago
I had two articles and closed both tabs... I will search for them right now. update... just posted a new link in a comment above :)
carmencita ago
How about it Wisconsinites? Is this for real? @Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt so it is hard to believe, but I am wishing and hoping. Over 1K rescued is a sizable number of rescues. Wonderful if true. @fogdryer
PUSHHER ago
Also, check the numbers. No where is there a mention of rescued minors or others. Just 34 Johns, yes, johns arrested for trying to get laid. This is misleading and I wonder why it's left up?
carmencita ago
Yeah, I wanted to believe it, but that number was way out of line and knowing them, I had reservations. I so wanted it to be true, like everyone else. Liars.
Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt ago
This is all a cover up. The real people and groups involved at the higher levels are the groups connected to the organizations claiming to be working on Anti-Trafficking and Anti-Corruption programs. Wisconsin is a cesspool of extreme corruption at all levels. This is just for headlines and to falsely justify the work of the groups that are involved in trafficking and corruption.
Law enforcement in Wisconsin is complicit to any crimes involving officials and the elite. It goes beyond the Marquette mafia but that is one of many groups that connect judges and attorneys around the state. These groups will leverage children, homeless, abuse victims, veterans, seniors, churches and anything they can to cover up the real Truth. They are all in the same clubs and societies together, and provide protection to others in the group.
Look into the Anti-Trafficking Coalition, The Fight to End Exploitation, and the I-94 Project. These are connected to a coalition of corrupt foundations, organizations, institutions, celebrities, and religious groups including Jesuit, LDS, OTO, Scientology, and Kabbalah.
They need to be exposed for what they really are - a model for trafficking, corruption, and the real agenda of Global Enslavement.
carmencita ago
I had a sinking feeling that the information was a cover up. Of course I was hoping for a better outcome but knowing what you have written about Racine and Wisconsin State, I knew the chances were slim. Thank you for responding.
Godwillwin ago
Has to be real because that was a local news channel - not neonettle etc
Local news is legit
SoldierofLight ago
Supposedly, local news affiliates of the "big" networks are not overseen by TPTB but remember what happened to Ben Swann? http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/cbs-news-distances-itself-from-affiliates-pizzagate-report/317908
Saying all local news stories are always legit is a dangerous blanket statement to make.
Godwillwin ago
Yes but I meant it's not a neonettle type site this is coming from. The local news usually gets the truth about their city right. I wouldn't expect my local news channel to report 35 arrests in my city if those arrests were fabricated.
carmencita ago
I am so glad to hear that, did not notice. Maybe things are changing. This is very good news. Thank you God.
3141592653 ago
looks like it's about 2 hours from Racine
carmencita ago
Hmm. I just don't trust that whole state now. They could be staging these, to take the pressure down, to make us think things are cleaning up. I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but they don't deserve our respect. I am hoping that maybe, just maybe, there is a group of White Hat LE left in Wi.
SoldierofLight ago
I'm guessing it's only a dog and pony show for exactly the reason you suggest-- to let a little steam escape and make people think LE is actually going after the monsters. I haven't checked, but I'd be surprised if it's actual people actually being arrested who will actually be convicted and serve actual time. I would love, absolutely LOVE to be wrong on this.
carmencita ago
I was so hoping, but in my heart I had a bad feeling. They that are responsible for trying to pull the wool over our eyes should be strung up along with the pedo elite, for they are spreading lies. Thank you for stating it so eloquently. Upvoat.
carmencita ago
Boy, Me Too. I guess the Key Word is Actual.