Gnosticism is the parent of the Freemasons, Illuminati, OTO, Kabbala, and Mormons, which is only to name a few. It had a significant effect on the Muslim religion in terms of how they define Jesus. It may have had more effect than that. If you look at the Shriners, they use many of the Muslim religious symbols, and, of course, they are closely affiliated with the Masons. Gnosticism, because of it's secrecy and rampant immorality, could be called the originator of the conspiracy theory.
You should look into Mormon fundamentalism. The mainstream Mormon church doesn't like them because they expose a lot of what is inherently Mormon. They are big pedos. Also, Joseph Smith was a Mason (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_Freemasonry)).
I'm not sure. This is the first I've heard of it. Gnosticism is characterized by a fundamental belief that humans are non-corporeal beings trapped in bodies of flesh. Also fundamental to that religion is the notion that it is only by knowing the secrets of the religion that one can access the highest levels of heaven. Heaven and hell being multi-level in nature.
Definitely worth looking into, re: masonry, oto, thelema(Crowley), etc.
I recognize that belief system though, it's shared by most any religion actually - even Christianity stipulates the same in it's own ways. The whole "knowing the secret is thy key to heaven" crap though, that's not quite as prevalent these days compared to teachings such as "behave in like manner or you will not enter heaven"
No! You only think that's true because you have been bombarded for years by their propaganda. There is no secret to salvation in Christianity. There is one God and one heaven. Hell is separation from God. Resurrection is corporeal. Those are all basic to Christianity. Anything that is not that is BS.
Erm, I did say that it's more common to see teachings that aren't "know the secret", my mention of Christianity's stipulations was with regards to humans being 'immortal souls' which inhabit a physical vessel - not that Christianity expects it's adherents to unlock some secret in order to enter Heaven. Sorry for the misunderstanding there.
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hojuruku ago
At the end of the VIDEO HES SAYING WE NEED TO TEACH ALL CHILDREN THE WAYS OF SEX MAGICK. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BIGLY17 ago
Shit then this video took a turn after I bored out around 15-18 mins in...
Dfens ago
I enjoyed the part where the idiot walked into a tree, but that was early on.
argosciv ago
Fuckin' cunts with ya selfie sticks... (said with love :P)
Dfens ago
It takes a special kind of moron to be into the crap that guy is into.
argosciv ago
Eh, there's some merit to the message of "take sex seriously", but I tune out for the rest of the fluff.
Dfens ago
Gnosticism is like that. They start out sounding innocuous enough and then take you straight to hell.
argosciv ago
I must say I can't recall spending a lot of time looking into Gnosticism explicitly. Might have to do that some time soon.
Dfens ago
Gnosticism is the parent of the Freemasons, Illuminati, OTO, Kabbala, and Mormons, which is only to name a few. It had a significant effect on the Muslim religion in terms of how they define Jesus. It may have had more effect than that. If you look at the Shriners, they use many of the Muslim religious symbols, and, of course, they are closely affiliated with the Masons. Gnosticism, because of it's secrecy and rampant immorality, could be called the originator of the conspiracy theory.
argosciv ago
Hmmm, so where would hermeticism fit in that lineage?
EDIT: Lolwut, mormons ey? I honestly figured they were just 'harmless' fruitcakes xD
Dfens ago
You should look into Mormon fundamentalism. The mainstream Mormon church doesn't like them because they expose a lot of what is inherently Mormon. They are big pedos. Also, Joseph Smith was a Mason (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_Freemasonry)).
Dfens ago
I'm not sure. This is the first I've heard of it. Gnosticism is characterized by a fundamental belief that humans are non-corporeal beings trapped in bodies of flesh. Also fundamental to that religion is the notion that it is only by knowing the secrets of the religion that one can access the highest levels of heaven. Heaven and hell being multi-level in nature.
argosciv ago
Definitely worth looking into, re: masonry, oto, thelema(Crowley), etc.
I recognize that belief system though, it's shared by most any religion actually - even Christianity stipulates the same in it's own ways. The whole "knowing the secret is thy key to heaven" crap though, that's not quite as prevalent these days compared to teachings such as "behave in like manner or you will not enter heaven"
Dfens ago
No! You only think that's true because you have been bombarded for years by their propaganda. There is no secret to salvation in Christianity. There is one God and one heaven. Hell is separation from God. Resurrection is corporeal. Those are all basic to Christianity. Anything that is not that is BS.
argosciv ago
Erm, I did say that it's more common to see teachings that aren't "know the secret", my mention of Christianity's stipulations was with regards to humans being 'immortal souls' which inhabit a physical vessel - not that Christianity expects it's adherents to unlock some secret in order to enter Heaven. Sorry for the misunderstanding there.
Dfens ago
Yes, you did. Sorry, it was late and my head was fuzzy. Totally my fault. Thanks for the excellent discussion.