Honestly, the guy's a bit new-agey, maybe even a bit loopy, but, I actually do not get the impression that he's advocating abuse of children, let alone even touching them.
Even the verbatim quote that you took the time to partially transcribe(I have bolded the parts which you got wrong or which were left out but are entirely relevant to what was initially quoted by yourself - I also took the liberty of removing the erroneous capitalization), it contains no hint at all that he means to engage children in sexual activities, in fact, the closest he comes is:
"and we need to teach them Gnosis, we need to teach them the occult forces of sex, the sexual union of souls. We need to teach them about all of these teachings when they are young , in simple ways that they can understand; that they can take into their lives; that they can use as part of their lives to be better people, better souls in this world, to create Heaven on Earth and get us out of this Hell on Earth that we're on now... and we're gonna do that through Gnosis and Gnosticism and living right, (and) again, that's the whole idea of being a Gnostic living in this world; we're here in this beautiful place, to create even a more beautiful place; we're here to help destroy the old world, that's kind of our job, guys. We're uh, kinda destroyers, we gotta start taking out the hammer and breaking what's not good, and taking what's beautiful and creating this beautiful world that's for our children and the generations to come and one that we'll all incarnate into and one that we can be proud to be part of; one where the sexual union of souls will be one of the most sacred acts in the world and it will be an honor and it will be one of the most devoted things that we do as humans." Moe begins thanking his viewers and saying goodbye, after the previously quoted text.
So, I'm sure there's a few other things you're likely to pick at, which, fair enough - the hammers metaphor perked my interest too, however, I truly think that this is relatively harmless, indeed, it sounds like he's advocating for humans to take sex more seriously and to teach children that it there's more to it than sensory pleasure and reproduction - that might not necessarily be your take on sex, but I think it's a stretch to lambast him and call him a shill/pedo/worldfucker/whatever - not with out something far more concrete to go on.
As for your connecting Crowley to all of this, think what you will of him, but the knowledge he used and the ways in which he used it, are not one in the same and at the very least, he certainly isn't the authority on the knowledge he utilized.
I say none of this to defend either Moe or Crowley, but to simply share my perspective on what Moe was saying and how you quoted/interpreted it.
To be even a bit more honest here, hojuruku, I think you have intentionally cherry-picked Moe's ramblings, whether the intent is to fear-monger or start a witch hunt - or whether you just wanted to contribute, well that I'm not sure of... but in the spirit of honesty, I don't trust the way you've tried to pitch this.
review my comment of what this guy was saying. He's also saying the Jews believe in Jupider i.e. Set i.e SATAN in the start of the video :P and you are going me for hate speech whilst defending him.
I'm just saying this occult speaker deserves to have his voice shared with the pizzagate community as it is and it's a bit late to have this post censored. it's already had it's run.
I'm honestly not trying to be a douche, I just felt like you cut your quote short a bit and by missing the word "simple", it strongly changes the connotation/implications of the quote. I apologize if I've misread your intent.
EDIT: I also wasn't implying that you were using hate speech against either Moe or Crowley, again, sorry if I've given the impression otherwise.
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argosciv ago
Honestly, the guy's a bit new-agey, maybe even a bit loopy, but, I actually do not get the impression that he's advocating abuse of children, let alone even touching them.
Even the verbatim quote that you took the time to partially transcribe(I have bolded the parts which you got wrong or which were left out but are entirely relevant to what was initially quoted by yourself - I also took the liberty of removing the erroneous capitalization), it contains no hint at all that he means to engage children in sexual activities, in fact, the closest he comes is:
"and we need to teach them Gnosis, we need to teach them the occult forces of sex, the sexual union of souls. We need to teach them about all of these teachings when they are young , in simple ways that they can understand; that they can take into their lives; that they can use as part of their lives to be better people, better souls in this world, to create Heaven on Earth and get us out of this Hell on Earth that we're on now... and we're gonna do that through Gnosis and Gnosticism and living right, (and) again, that's the whole idea of being a Gnostic living in this world; we're here in this beautiful place, to create even a more beautiful place; we're here to help destroy the old world, that's kind of our job, guys. We're uh, kinda destroyers, we gotta start taking out the hammer and breaking what's not good, and taking what's beautiful and creating this beautiful world that's for our children and the generations to come and one that we'll all incarnate into and one that we can be proud to be part of; one where the sexual union of souls will be one of the most sacred acts in the world and it will be an honor and it will be one of the most devoted things that we do as humans." Moe begins thanking his viewers and saying goodbye, after the previously quoted text.
So, I'm sure there's a few other things you're likely to pick at, which, fair enough - the hammers metaphor perked my interest too, however, I truly think that this is relatively harmless, indeed, it sounds like he's advocating for humans to take sex more seriously and to teach children that it there's more to it than sensory pleasure and reproduction - that might not necessarily be your take on sex, but I think it's a stretch to lambast him and call him a shill/pedo/worldfucker/whatever - not with out something far more concrete to go on.
As for your connecting Crowley to all of this, think what you will of him, but the knowledge he used and the ways in which he used it, are not one in the same and at the very least, he certainly isn't the authority on the knowledge he utilized.
I say none of this to defend either Moe or Crowley, but to simply share my perspective on what Moe was saying and how you quoted/interpreted it.
argosciv ago
To be even a bit more honest here, hojuruku, I think you have intentionally cherry-picked Moe's ramblings, whether the intent is to fear-monger or start a witch hunt - or whether you just wanted to contribute, well that I'm not sure of... but in the spirit of honesty, I don't trust the way you've tried to pitch this.
@Vindicator please review
hojuruku ago
review my comment of what this guy was saying. He's also saying the Jews believe in Jupider i.e. Set i.e SATAN in the start of the video :P and you are going me for hate speech whilst defending him.
I'm just saying this occult speaker deserves to have his voice shared with the pizzagate community as it is and it's a bit late to have this post censored. it's already had it's run.
argosciv ago
I'm honestly not trying to be a douche, I just felt like you cut your quote short a bit and by missing the word "simple", it strongly changes the connotation/implications of the quote. I apologize if I've misread your intent.
EDIT: I also wasn't implying that you were using hate speech against either Moe or Crowley, again, sorry if I've given the impression otherwise.