I agree that this is stomach turning and I will definitely not click any of those links.
Doesn't your profile say "If freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we will be led to slaughter"?
The problem with free speech is that people tend to say objectionable things. Things that are offensive to others. Being offended, even disgusted is the price we pay for that freedom.
Murder is too far. It's against the law as well. If that is your way of thinking, then child porn and beastiality should be accepted right? What about the right for an adult to have sex with a minor? How about activists that fight for lowering the age of consent? Or let's go for Nambla. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association
My point is that, people can talk about all the sick and twisted crap they want. That doesn't mean these people aren't sick and twisted themselves. But, there is a limit. They are sharing videos and probably pictures. They ARE showing children. How far does something have to go to you before you consider it too far? Free speech doesn't mean you're allowed to break the law or be apart of spreading videos of it.
I agree that committing those acts is criminal. Showing them and sharing them is not.
Nothing in my argument had any connection to child porn. You're obviously too upset to have a calm discussion about this subject. Then again I admittedly did not watch any of those videos.
A sub that shows videos of children being murdered falls under "free speech" to you? Is sharing pictures and videos or child pornography too far to be considered free speech to you? They both fall under the harming a child.
So in your eyes, is there a limit? Yes or no?
I'm too upset to have a calm discussion after finding out there is a sub on voat that shows videos of children being murdered? How are you not outraged? How can you defend this in any way shape or form?
I have been calm to you. I haven't called you names. I haven't done the usual thing people do and call you a faggot or a pussy or a cunt. I'm standing for what's right. Free speech is not a good excuse. Try again.
I'm not saying these videos are ok.
I'm saying outright censorship is a dangerous and slippery slope. Censorship is currently being used in the takeover of Europe and the UK.
Voat is one of the last places IN THE WORLD where we can openly discuss offensive content that has nothing to do with these horrendous videos.
Call them out, shame the posters of this disgusting content. I'll personally pray for them. Posting a video of a violent crime after the fact is not illegal and should not be censored here until it is.
The sexualazion of children is a whole different subject and cannot be tolerated at any time. It is also illegal for good reason. That is where I draw the line.
Showing a spontaneous violent act is very different from the sexualized fetishism of children.
My point is that censorship is a dangerous course of action that can easily be turned against you, me, and society as a whole.
Thank you for not calling me names. As a mother and survivor of child sexual abuse I do not make my argument lightly. I am as repulsed as you are.
I am those things and a survivor too. I believe in free speech as well. I don't want the real news and information out there being taken away from us and just end up mind controlled by the mainstream media. I agree with openly discussing things, but viewing the pictures and videos of children murdered is just sick to me. I'm not going to any link. I can't stand the thought. We can agree to disagree. Peace
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o0shad0o ago
When I saw this, I first thought it was a shitpost. Then I realized it wasn't talking about /r/PeopleFuckingDying .
srayzie ago
My gosh. People are disgusting!
QueenAlt ago
I agree that this is stomach turning and I will definitely not click any of those links.
Doesn't your profile say "If freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we will be led to slaughter"?
The problem with free speech is that people tend to say objectionable things. Things that are offensive to others. Being offended, even disgusted is the price we pay for that freedom.
srayzie ago
Murder is too far. It's against the law as well. If that is your way of thinking, then child porn and beastiality should be accepted right? What about the right for an adult to have sex with a minor? How about activists that fight for lowering the age of consent? Or let's go for Nambla. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association
My point is that, people can talk about all the sick and twisted crap they want. That doesn't mean these people aren't sick and twisted themselves. But, there is a limit. They are sharing videos and probably pictures. They ARE showing children. How far does something have to go to you before you consider it too far? Free speech doesn't mean you're allowed to break the law or be apart of spreading videos of it.
QueenAlt ago
I agree that committing those acts is criminal. Showing them and sharing them is not.
Nothing in my argument had any connection to child porn. You're obviously too upset to have a calm discussion about this subject. Then again I admittedly did not watch any of those videos.
srayzie ago
A sub that shows videos of children being murdered falls under "free speech" to you? Is sharing pictures and videos or child pornography too far to be considered free speech to you? They both fall under the harming a child.
So in your eyes, is there a limit? Yes or no?
I'm too upset to have a calm discussion after finding out there is a sub on voat that shows videos of children being murdered? How are you not outraged? How can you defend this in any way shape or form?
I have been calm to you. I haven't called you names. I haven't done the usual thing people do and call you a faggot or a pussy or a cunt. I'm standing for what's right. Free speech is not a good excuse. Try again.
QueenAlt ago
I'm not saying these videos are ok.
I'm saying outright censorship is a dangerous and slippery slope. Censorship is currently being used in the takeover of Europe and the UK.
Voat is one of the last places IN THE WORLD where we can openly discuss offensive content that has nothing to do with these horrendous videos.
Call them out, shame the posters of this disgusting content. I'll personally pray for them. Posting a video of a violent crime after the fact is not illegal and should not be censored here until it is.
The sexualazion of children is a whole different subject and cannot be tolerated at any time. It is also illegal for good reason. That is where I draw the line.
Showing a spontaneous violent act is very different from the sexualized fetishism of children.
My point is that censorship is a dangerous course of action that can easily be turned against you, me, and society as a whole.
Thank you for not calling me names. As a mother and survivor of child sexual abuse I do not make my argument lightly. I am as repulsed as you are.
srayzie ago
I am those things and a survivor too. I believe in free speech as well. I don't want the real news and information out there being taken away from us and just end up mind controlled by the mainstream media. I agree with openly discussing things, but viewing the pictures and videos of children murdered is just sick to me. I'm not going to any link. I can't stand the thought. We can agree to disagree. Peace