Rather this was a major patriarchal assault on women as their enemy .... which continues even today.
The Salem "Witch trials" were about the most violent persecution of women, especially women who were involved in knowledge of plants which are our natural medicines/drugs. Women at that time were also mid-wives. Nature had put her trust and everything to do with childbirth in the care of women.
This "Burning of women at the stake" denied them any rights over their own children -- barred them from the right to inherit their family or husband's property which forced them into poverty -- and was the beginning of moving women out of medicine and childbirth.
THAT was the purpose of the "Salem Witch Trials" as they are called.
WICCA simply means women's wisdom and their wisdom about plants as medicines was used to destroy them and to eventually move medicine and childbirth into the hands of males .... males who have never experienced pregnancy nor carried a pregnancy to term, nor ever experienced labor or childbirth.
Another part of the motivation for this extreme violence against women by patriarchy was the fact that so many males had died in the Crusades. Naturally their property and wealth was inherited by their wives and children which gave women increased financial independence at that time.
That's what I always thought, too, but I think both ideas can be true. Of course I can't remember where I saw it, but I read that the esteemed early settlers were not fleeing religious persecution of their brand of Christianity but of Luciferianism. I have no idea if this is true or not, but the viciousness with which 'witches' were prosecuted makes me think they were not RightThinkers - they saw truth and told truth and these guys had something to hide. Reminds me of honor killing the only person who witnessed the rape besides the rapists - the inconvenient victim. In a male dominated society it would make sense they would kill the intuitives who provided an unpleasant mirror to their guilt,
The Catholic Church's "Hammer of Witches" was only one small part of the viciousness of the Catholic Church/Vatican versus women.
Still today the Vatican does not recognize the full personhood of females as it recognizes the full personhood of males. Women are still barred from participating in ritual and authority within the RCC with the suggestion that they are "inferior" to males and unqualified spiritually.
From it's first days, the Vatican was carrying out a campaign of intolerance and hatred for women (much as they have done with Native Americans, Africans enslaved here, Jews and Homosexuals, as well) and the "Hammer of Witches" was one of the most serious and vicious campaigns against women.
When we look at the long list of victims of the RCC and its preachings and campaigns we see where the true evil is and that is with the RCC.
PS:
These RCC campaigns of propaganda as we've seen before encourage violence against those being demeaned and demonized, as the RCC did in encouraging violence against women by their husbands.
In the Mormon Church, as well, we see this same suggestion that only a husband can deliver his wife to "Heaven" or save her spiritually -- i.e., she is so spiritually "inferior" that she cannot save herself.
Absolutely agree. Plain to see how much they hate women. Upping the fringe stakes a little, they seem to be destroying everything that is natural and everything that is free. They seem from conception (pardon the pun) to be a homosexual outfit having allegience only to a distinctly non-Christian entity and agenda. They seem to despise actual women, yet want to take their place. I am thinking of the prissy, entitled, feminine Jesuits I have personally encountered and the over the top finery and gowns cardinals and above wear. Their grasping material hoarding. "Mother Church" seems an evil, soul-killing, spiteful mother. There is a feminine origin here that hates real women.
When we add up all of the enemies of the RCC Church, women are at the top of the list; probably only directly behind Nature. Mary Shelley in her "Frankenstein" confirms the belief that male resentment against Nature and Females is related to the fact that Nature gave the power of creation/childbirth to females and not males.
But, disagree here ---
They seem from conception (pardon the pun) to be a homosexual outfit having allegience only to a distinctly non-Christian entity and agenda.
I don't know if anyone knows just how many heterosexual or homosexual males there are in the RCC but it has been tradition within the RCC to suggest that it is homosexual males who are responsible for the sexual abuse of children. But that is untrue: Homosexual males are 100X LESS likely to sexually abuse a child than a heterosexual male.
First -- even our right wing women's organizations agree that MALES are our sexual abusers of children.
And studies confirm that, but they also confirm that it is heterosexual males who sexually abuse children.
It is thought that pedophiles actually have no sexual orientation. But that heterosexual males who prefer
sexual relations with females will actually sexually abuse a child if an adult female is not available. This
is called "situational" pedophilia.
The Catholic Church HAD to adopt the customs of the pagan religions which came thousands and thousands of years before them and which were based in Nature and Goddesses who wore dresses, as well as having to take on their "gods" and "goddesses" as Catholic SAINTS.
Just as the Catholic Church HAD to build its church on runs of these older pagan religions because they were built on the knowledge of the power of ley lines which crisscross the earth. In other words, in order to be on the ley lines, they had to build on top of the older churches/temples and their prominent "gods" and "goddesses" had to be turned into RCC's "saints."
The RCC mostly made its way by violence by its armies -- "Introducing the cross with the sword."
I'd suggest that a lot of this FEAR comes about when REINCARNATION is no longer taught as a theory of spiritual beliefs -- actually it was taught by the major world's religions .... "until it because inconvenient for Elites."
And -- UGH! -- I think you are expected to come back as the opposite sex.
We may not be talking about 100's of lives before reaching a state of Nirvana ...
but possibly 1000's of lives !!!!!
If you want more info on the studies of heterosexual males as 100X more likely to sexually abuse a child, let me know. :)
I am sorry if I wasn't clear - I am not saying they are homosexual therefor child rapists. They are not all actual homosexuals, either. I think they are child killers because some of them are Satanists. I was trying to describe a kind of etheric vibe which troubles me; it is kind of prissy and venal, almost feminine, not in a good way.
Also, as you say, I believe men are being trained to hate women and vice versa; there are many forces at work to break up happy couples and families. Thanks for your interesting comments ;O)
Trusting that we are two feminists here, for equality and against violence.
Just wanted to be sure that you knew about the studies and who our sexual abusers of children actually are.
Also, I always hope that someone else other than the intended recipient might read a post and find info that
is new to them. Many people do believe the RCC's preachings about homosexuals and still believe that it is
homosexual priests who sexually abuse children. You'll find posts like that quite often here.
I'm always concerned about propaganda, especially when it has a long trail. And I consider the pornography
industry as it exists today via cable TV to be a propaganda campaign against females. Especially in the very
violent sexual acts featured in pornography and the violence enacted upon the females performing in these
films. From what I've read, it seems clear that boys as young as 11 years old are viewing this porn on cable
TV and are very much being taught to disrespect females. It's that old story: "Get 'em while they're young."
You sent me to the dictionary to find "etheric" and I'm not quite sure that I understand it even after
reading the definition.
I'm a recovering Catholic and being female didn't have much exposure to priests. The boys in our
school did as only they could volunteer as altar boys at that time. But we did hear the stories of
the priests being drunk, cursing, etc.. Then, 7th/8th grade boys and girls were separated at that
time and the boys were taught by "Brothers" who were very physically rough with the boys.
I recall seeing some of that roughness a few times in hallways. The sister who taught the girls was
quite large and heavy and found it very easy to embarrass students who didn't have answers and
maybe knock their heads into blackboards. What I'm saying is that I've always found the Church
itself, its priests and its nuns to mainly project masculine behavior and attitudes. But it was all hidden
behind very gentle and reassuring names like: Sisters of Charity, Sisters and Brothers, Mother
Superior, Father, and my favorite "The Reverend" Father or Mother. The starched white collars of the
priests and the starched bibs of the nuns suggested control and orderliness which belied the reality
of what the church was all about. These pretenses have worked for a very long time, but there were
always a few (and often many hidden away) who knew the truth of their behavior.
The Conference of Catholic Bishops unashamedly continue to suggest that they have the right to
preach "morality" to members and all of society, yet the history of the RCC and its priests makes
clear the reality is otherwise. Recently, I read this line about the RCC and "Confession" which you
probably have no personal experience with, but possibly have heard about ....
"Confession was only about church espionage, spying on Catholics."
Thank you for your reply and I'll work on catching up with etheric. :)
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whitehand ago
This is exactly what happened when all those truthful satanic pedo cases in the 80's were exposed.
remedy4reality ago
I believe the Salem Witch Trials were actually the cover up of a pedo cult and the elimination of witnesses and victims.
Votescam ago
Rather this was a major patriarchal assault on women as their enemy .... which continues even today.
The Salem "Witch trials" were about the most violent persecution of women, especially women who were involved in knowledge of plants which are our natural medicines/drugs. Women at that time were also mid-wives. Nature had put her trust and everything to do with childbirth in the care of women.
The "Burning of Women at the Stake" was the result of the Catholic Church's "Hammer of Witches" which you should actually read something about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_Maleficarum
This "Burning of women at the stake" denied them any rights over their own children -- barred them from the right to inherit their family or husband's property which forced them into poverty -- and was the beginning of moving women out of medicine and childbirth.
THAT was the purpose of the "Salem Witch Trials" as they are called.
WICCA simply means women's wisdom and their wisdom about plants as medicines was used to destroy them and to eventually move medicine and childbirth into the hands of males .... males who have never experienced pregnancy nor carried a pregnancy to term, nor ever experienced labor or childbirth.
Another part of the motivation for this extreme violence against women by patriarchy was the fact that so many males had died in the Crusades. Naturally their property and wealth was inherited by their wives and children which gave women increased financial independence at that time.
SturdyGal ago
That's what I always thought, too, but I think both ideas can be true. Of course I can't remember where I saw it, but I read that the esteemed early settlers were not fleeing religious persecution of their brand of Christianity but of Luciferianism. I have no idea if this is true or not, but the viciousness with which 'witches' were prosecuted makes me think they were not RightThinkers - they saw truth and told truth and these guys had something to hide. Reminds me of honor killing the only person who witnessed the rape besides the rapists - the inconvenient victim. In a male dominated society it would make sense they would kill the intuitives who provided an unpleasant mirror to their guilt,
Votescam ago
See: The Crucible by Arthur Miller
The Catholic Church's "Hammer of Witches" was only one small part of the viciousness of the Catholic Church/Vatican versus women.
Still today the Vatican does not recognize the full personhood of females as it recognizes the full personhood of males. Women are still barred from participating in ritual and authority within the RCC with the suggestion that they are "inferior" to males and unqualified spiritually.
From it's first days, the Vatican was carrying out a campaign of intolerance and hatred for women (much as they have done with Native Americans, Africans enslaved here, Jews and Homosexuals, as well) and the "Hammer of Witches" was one of the most serious and vicious campaigns against women.
When we look at the long list of victims of the RCC and its preachings and campaigns we see where the true evil is and that is with the RCC.
PS: These RCC campaigns of propaganda as we've seen before encourage violence against those being demeaned and demonized, as the RCC did in encouraging violence against women by their husbands.
In the Mormon Church, as well, we see this same suggestion that only a husband can deliver his wife to "Heaven" or save her spiritually -- i.e., she is so spiritually "inferior" that she cannot save herself.
SturdyGal ago
Absolutely agree. Plain to see how much they hate women. Upping the fringe stakes a little, they seem to be destroying everything that is natural and everything that is free. They seem from conception (pardon the pun) to be a homosexual outfit having allegience only to a distinctly non-Christian entity and agenda. They seem to despise actual women, yet want to take their place. I am thinking of the prissy, entitled, feminine Jesuits I have personally encountered and the over the top finery and gowns cardinals and above wear. Their grasping material hoarding. "Mother Church" seems an evil, soul-killing, spiteful mother. There is a feminine origin here that hates real women.
Votescam ago
Sturdy Gal --
When we add up all of the enemies of the RCC Church, women are at the top of the list; probably only directly behind Nature. Mary Shelley in her "Frankenstein" confirms the belief that male resentment against Nature and Females is related to the fact that Nature gave the power of creation/childbirth to females and not males.
But, disagree here ---
I don't know if anyone knows just how many heterosexual or homosexual males there are in the RCC but it has been tradition within the RCC to suggest that it is homosexual males who are responsible for the sexual abuse of children. But that is untrue: Homosexual males are 100X LESS likely to sexually abuse a child than a heterosexual male.
First -- even our right wing women's organizations agree that MALES are our sexual abusers of children. And studies confirm that, but they also confirm that it is heterosexual males who sexually abuse children. It is thought that pedophiles actually have no sexual orientation. But that heterosexual males who prefer sexual relations with females will actually sexually abuse a child if an adult female is not available. This is called "situational" pedophilia.
Women are not our sexual abusers though it does happen when they are under the influence of a heterosexual male. Catholic Nuns have also sexually abused children, undeniably. And 40% of Catholic Nuns have also been abused -- beaten, sexually abused -- by Catholic priests. When the nuns became pregnant, the babies were murdered. http://apostasie.org/news.php?item.85.1 And http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/05/06/nun-arrested-for-allegedly-abusing-deaf-children-in-argentina.html
The Catholic Church HAD to adopt the customs of the pagan religions which came thousands and thousands of years before them and which were based in Nature and Goddesses who wore dresses, as well as having to take on their "gods" and "goddesses" as Catholic SAINTS.
Just as the Catholic Church HAD to build its church on runs of these older pagan religions because they were built on the knowledge of the power of ley lines which crisscross the earth. In other words, in order to be on the ley lines, they had to build on top of the older churches/temples and their prominent "gods" and "goddesses" had to be turned into RCC's "saints."
The RCC mostly made its way by violence by its armies -- "Introducing the cross with the sword."
I'd suggest that a lot of this FEAR comes about when REINCARNATION is no longer taught as a theory of spiritual beliefs -- actually it was taught by the major world's religions .... "until it because inconvenient for Elites."
And -- UGH! -- I think you are expected to come back as the opposite sex. We may not be talking about 100's of lives before reaching a state of Nirvana ... but possibly 1000's of lives !!!!!
If you want more info on the studies of heterosexual males as 100X more likely to sexually abuse a child, let me know. :)
Also, in reading something today I came upon this about the misogynistic beliefs of "Reddit.com" posters ... http://www.cracked.com/article_19785_5-ways-modern-men-are-trained-to-hate-women.html
Was really surprised to see that ... !!
SturdyGal ago
I am sorry if I wasn't clear - I am not saying they are homosexual therefor child rapists. They are not all actual homosexuals, either. I think they are child killers because some of them are Satanists. I was trying to describe a kind of etheric vibe which troubles me; it is kind of prissy and venal, almost feminine, not in a good way.
Also, as you say, I believe men are being trained to hate women and vice versa; there are many forces at work to break up happy couples and families. Thanks for your interesting comments ;O)
Votescam ago
Trusting that we are two feminists here, for equality and against violence.
Just wanted to be sure that you knew about the studies and who our sexual abusers of children actually are. Also, I always hope that someone else other than the intended recipient might read a post and find info that is new to them. Many people do believe the RCC's preachings about homosexuals and still believe that it is homosexual priests who sexually abuse children. You'll find posts like that quite often here.
I'm always concerned about propaganda, especially when it has a long trail. And I consider the pornography industry as it exists today via cable TV to be a propaganda campaign against females. Especially in the very violent sexual acts featured in pornography and the violence enacted upon the females performing in these films. From what I've read, it seems clear that boys as young as 11 years old are viewing this porn on cable TV and are very much being taught to disrespect females. It's that old story: "Get 'em while they're young."
You sent me to the dictionary to find "etheric" and I'm not quite sure that I understand it even after reading the definition.
I'm a recovering Catholic and being female didn't have much exposure to priests. The boys in our school did as only they could volunteer as altar boys at that time. But we did hear the stories of the priests being drunk, cursing, etc.. Then, 7th/8th grade boys and girls were separated at that time and the boys were taught by "Brothers" who were very physically rough with the boys.
I recall seeing some of that roughness a few times in hallways. The sister who taught the girls was quite large and heavy and found it very easy to embarrass students who didn't have answers and maybe knock their heads into blackboards. What I'm saying is that I've always found the Church itself, its priests and its nuns to mainly project masculine behavior and attitudes. But it was all hidden behind very gentle and reassuring names like: Sisters of Charity, Sisters and Brothers, Mother Superior, Father, and my favorite "The Reverend" Father or Mother. The starched white collars of the priests and the starched bibs of the nuns suggested control and orderliness which belied the reality of what the church was all about. These pretenses have worked for a very long time, but there were always a few (and often many hidden away) who knew the truth of their behavior.
The Conference of Catholic Bishops unashamedly continue to suggest that they have the right to preach "morality" to members and all of society, yet the history of the RCC and its priests makes clear the reality is otherwise. Recently, I read this line about the RCC and "Confession" which you probably have no personal experience with, but possibly have heard about .... "Confession was only about church espionage, spying on Catholics."
Thank you for your reply and I'll work on catching up with etheric. :)