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DarkMath ago

"the Pizzagate community, while well meaning"

Thanks for the input ESOTERICshade. I agree something's got to change because as of today /v/pizzagate is pretty much dead as a door nail. It's important everyone agree on that and I think most would. We're stalled out for sure.

I've been here almost 9 months and from where I sit there's one and only one event that stopped /v/pizzagate in its tracks: Edgar Allen Welch and the Smith-Mundt 2012 enabled road show he and the DC Metro Police put on down at Comet Ping Pong.

But fear not fellow Deplorable Shit Lords! Yes we lost the battle but we're going to win this war.


Keep Hope Alive The war is far from over.


So what do we do? Easy. They went after our credibility so we'll go after theirs. And the way to do that is to explain to people the Smith-Mundth "Modernization" Act of 2012 permits the U.S. Government to lie.

Nobody knows this. I only learned about it a couple of months ago. It floored me. Then I tried red pilling people with it and got even more floored. I was amazed how easy it was for people to accept the U.S. Government could do such a thing. It pissed people off when I told them. It's hard to convince someone the U.S. Government is trafficking children but it's trivial to convince them the Smith-Mundt "Modernization" Act of 2012 allows them to lie to us.

Broadcasting the truth about Smith-Mundt 2012 can destroy the U.S. Government's credibility very quickly. I'm 100% convinced of that right now. Why?

1) There are no sordid sex crimes to explain and hence the natural reflex for any non-psychotic to puke their guts out. Nobody likes being nauseous.

2) People already suspect the U.S. Government is up to no good but nobody can put their finger on it. Smith-Mundt 2012 changes that.

3) There's no defense of Smith-Mundt 2012. Even @AreWeSure, @RweSure, @are_we_sure and @are_we__sure can't defend "Public Diplomacy Broadcasting". Believe me he tried but failed after trying to argue it was limited to the State Department and only to counter foreign propaganda. It's not. I looked it up. All that's needed is for the State Department to say the propaganda will be broadcast internationally as well as domestically.

What do people think?

Are_we__sure ago

The gunman is not named after the Gothic Author. Edgar Maddison Welch is his name.

What I tried to do is get some facts through your thick skull. You were claiming that Smith Mundt 2012 allowed the government to pay people to post on internet forums.

You still haven't been able to point to a single piece of Smith Mundt work.

DarkMath ago

Oh then you agree Smith-Mundt 2012 allows the U.S. Government to produce propaganda and broadcast it domestically.

Great! I'm glad we finally agree about something.

:-D

P.S. Regarding Edgar Allen vs Edgar Maddison, you lose credibility when you get vindictive. I thought we went over this before.

Are_we__sure ago

Feel free to cite one example of this domestic propaganda that you blame for our ills.

A single one

DarkMath ago

I just want to make sure, are you agreeing that the Smith-Mundt "Modernization" Act of 2012 authorizes the production of hoax videos domestic propaganda?

Yes or No

Are_we__sure ago

No.

I am rejecting every ounce of your claim. I am saying you have made an absolutely evidence free claim and I am asking you to point to a single example of a hoax video. You have already walked away from a more ridiculous aspect of your claim and now I am asking for any evidence of what you claim.

DarkMath ago

Again no punting. Let's try again.


So it's officially, you don't think the Smith-Mundt "Modernization" Act of 2012 allows the U.S. Government to engage in domestic propaganda.

I have just one question then. What does Smith-Mundt 2012 actually do? Why was it passed?

:-D

Are_we__sure ago

I answered that weeks ago and you went off on your nonsense festival.

You are the one who is punting. Find a single example of what you are claiming. You seemed to claim this was the cause of so many of ills just the other day. So show your evidence.

DarkMath ago

And I explained you were correct about Smith-Mundt 2012 not allowing the payment of internet shills. Remember? I'm a rational human being and will freely admit when I'm wrong unlike you.

After admitting my error I then explained YOUR error which was believing Smith-Mundt 2012 was limited to the State Department. While true the State Dept has to be involved in the "Public Diplomacy Broadcasting" it doesn't LIMIT participation to just them. Nor does it limit the message to only countering foreign propaganda. Domestic "Diplomacy Broadcasting" is allowed if related to an international State Department effort. For example a campaign against gun violence in the Americas is enough to justify the State Department hiring crisis actors and staging a hoax shooting event and passing it off as real. If that hoax mass shooting was reported on internationally and helped convey an anti-gun violence message then that's enough to qualify it as "Domestic Propaganda" and therefor make it legal to intentionally lie to the American People. The point being the crisis actors, television crews, law enforcement and rescue personal don't have to work for the State Department in order for their participation to be used in "Public Diplomacy Broadcasting".

That seems wrong doesn't it AreWeSure? Our government shouldn't be able to lie to us like that right?

:-D

Are_we__sure ago

And I explained you were correct about Smith-Mundt 2012 not allowing the payment of internet shills. Remember? I'm a rational human being and will freely admit when I'm wrong unlike you.

I don't remember this at all. Though, sometimes I skip your replies.

Your example is ludicrous and completely false. So it doesn't allow for internet shills, but you can pay for hoax shootings? What are you talking about. You paint yourself into ridiculous corners trying to hang on to fake theories.

Why don't you actually read the text of bills and read genuine legal commentary about them. Smith Mundt 2012 needs to read in conjunction with the all other Smith Mundt laws. You should try to do that without using non-nonsense sources. Because your understanding of this bill is pitiful.

As for your hoax shooting event. You think the State Department could pull that off? Without using magical thinking (I know this is a big ask, isn't it.) how does that happen? How do you get an entire community in on a the hoax?

DarkMath ago

".......hoax shootings? What are you talking about."

The Smith-Mundt "Modernization" Act of 2012 allows the U.S. Government to broadcast domestic propaganda. And there's overwhelming evidence that many of the mass "shooting's" since 2012 have been hoaxes. The most damming evidence is the number of "mass shootings" miraculously skyrocketed immediately after Smith-Mundt 2012 was passed: https://thesocietypages.org/feminist/files/2015/07/Mass-Shootings-Frequency.png

Then there are the countless inconsistencies surrounding the more well known "mass shootings". For example Sandy Hook:

1) On the day of the shooting the first police to arrive parked a quarter of a mile away, no ambulances drive up to the school itself and actually arrived AFTER a truck carrying Port-o-Potties dropped of 5 portable toilets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEfW9FvLyAg

2) Sandy Hook Elementary school wasn't even an operating school at the time of the "mass shooting":

a) No activity of the web site: https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/shes-on-wayback-machine.jpg

b) No maintenance records and was in deplorable condition. One bathroom had toxic mold and dried up algae as if it had been entirely flooded to the depth of 1 foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXeRPtj-tEU

3) The state of Connecticut and the FBI had no record of anyone dying there: http://www.reformation.org/NobodyDiedAtSandyHook.pdf

There are hundreds of these inconsistencies and that's just one "mass shooting".

But I've seen this movie before AreWeSure. You will dismiss all this evidence. You have never been wrong about anything in the past 9 months ever even just for a second. You are incapable of misinterpreting evidence and anyone who disagrees with you is "lying".

:-D

Are_we__sure ago

And, of course, you reply with 6 kinds of crazy.

And not a single example still.