Truthplease5 ago

what if this 'find' was a scam to phish the approx locations of 4chan users?

HugoWeaving ago

OMG PEOPLE. I KNOW YOU'RE EXCITED TO HELP OUT AND SHARE YOUR FINDINGS, BUT PLEASE THINK BEFORE YOU PROVIDE PERSONAL, IDENTIFYING INFORMATION IN THIS FORUM -- LIKE WHERE YOU LIVE, WHAT'S NEARBY, ETC.

I don't want to scare anyone but I was able to figure out two different people's IDs from just their descriptions of what is around them coupled with previous comments and matching usernames on other forums.

STOP. THINK. THINK AGAIN. And only share (safely) what is worth sharing. Researching criminal activity is not a game. If you're not protecting yourself you are endangering others too.

Thanks for reading...

FTSIO ago

I still find it odd that so many of these addresses lead to medical facilities of some sort with super bizzare hours.

Theory: What if these are places where traffickers go to get kids treated on the DL?

new4now ago

I looked up a major city in my state

Some of the addresses house multiple businesses, many that have been dissolved

Tried to separate the obvious reference to a man name Joseph

3 Hospitals came up

St Joseph Hospital, would separate but 2 other hospitals come up, and St Joseph Milwaukee Hospital Offering 5-Star Critical Care, Close to Home In addition to nationally-recognized high-risk pregnancy and birthing care,

The others are Childrens Hospital and Froedtert Hospital/ Medical College of Wis.

Flight for Life takes people to Froedtert in southwest Wisconsin

Some of the addresses are connected to these Hospitals

Two I found interesting, A Clinic for acute and chronic kidney diseases and a Clinic for Endocrinologist, hormonal imbalances

Another 2 listings caught my eye

One was for the Federal Building and Court House and an office building which states it has had many Government agencies in there and is directly across the street from Mitchell Airport

with that said, was thinking about 2impendingdoom 1 points (+1|-0) 13 hours ago  I wonder if this is connected to the hospital's food service/cafeteria, but still all of this is super weird. ..... Maybe vending machines?

Too many What Ifs with this one

Imagine finding out your next-door neighbor has an incredible talent you never knew about. That's what it's like when most people find out about all of the health care services available at Wheaton Franciscan — St. Joseph Campus in Milwaukee. In addition to nationally-recognized high-risk pregnancy and birthing care,

ThePedoHunter ago

Something very fcking fishy.....this is a pedo yellow pages. DB error my fcking ass.

maggiethatcher ago

It's not a database error. Look at this listing - nothing to do with Joseph, just a private house on the market this year for the first time in 10 years. No reason to be in a business database at all - and there are no business listings on google for this address. https://www.hourspage.com/josephs-locations-hours/texas/dallas/72680664 http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5926-Monticello-Ave_Dallas_TX_75206_M71338-18214

I suspect you could easily do this search for many of the others. If it was a database error, a search for "Kate's" or "John's" would yield more results yet it doesn't. Joseph is not that common a name.

I really wonder whether the attack on voat is related to this.

lurkinginvestigator ago

Should I go around to the ones in my area or what should we do about this? I also have dozens in my town.

Celticgirlonamission ago

I believe it may be a way of tracking donors without their knowledge

Votescam ago

Checked for my state and allegedly 636 locations for Joseph's Bistro -- Allegedly 4 locations in my area -- and telephone numbers listed. Certainly, I'm familiar with the area and there are NO Joseph's Bistro's at those locations, but I will check as to what is there.

Also strikes me as odd that on the Joseph's "Hours" listing page at right side are "Popular Brands"

which include ... Taco Bell, Little Caesar's, Golden Corral, Pizza Hut, Dairy Queen, Sonic, McDonald's, Chick-Fil, Cici's Pizza, Wendy's, Burger King, GNC, Outback Steakhouse, Subway, Domino's Pizza --

Doubt there is any one of them where you couldn't find a Burger consisting of ground up "meat."

Dairy Queen is the odd note there -- Other than that these are all "Fast Food" restaurants which have risen in popularity since the 60's and 70's?

As we know from the youngsters in the Hampstead UK case, they connected some of the activities of the results of the pedophile activities at the "church" location being extended to fast food restaurants in their town.

Of course, I don't know if anyone has come near estimating just how many children over the years of MKULTRA/Monarch would have been missing in that time and seriously don't think that any of them were returned or recovered.

But I am thinking about the rise of these fast food restaurants as not being coincidental

Votescam ago

Did anyone else find that under listings for "Menu" and "Hours" there was a listing across from what looks like a "globe icon" which was for www.fiorechiro.com

Using that URL, here's what comes up and notice that it again goes down to listings for "Joseph's"

https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AwrBT9Gfp21Z99IAQZdXNyoA;_ylc=X1MDMjc2NjY3OQRfcgMyBGZyA3VzaC1tYWlsbgRncHJpZAMEbl9yc2x0AzAEbl9zdWdnAzAEb3JpZ2luA3NlYXJjaC55YWhvby5jb20EcG9zAzAEcHFzdHIDBHBxc3RybAMwBHFzdHJsAzE4BHF1ZXJ5A3d3dy5maW9yZWNoaXJvLmNvbQR0X3N0bXADMTUwMDM1ODU1NQ--?p=www.fiorechiro.com&fr2=sb-top&fr=ush-mailn

Votescam ago

Jesuits work in many roles in parish and retreat ministry, in high schools and colleges, as lawyers, doctors, psychologists and ... Opus Dei, Knights of Malta) http://granddesignexposed.com/george/jesuits.html

Zoltanismysecretname ago

Registered just for this... My town Joseph's: On one street alone, Country Club, Adoption Agency, Police Headquarters, Cancer Center, Pediatrician's Office.....And oh yeah, my town has underground tunnels and on a major highway corridor..... Hmmmmm.....

SoSpricyHotDog ago

Ok, guys & gals, seriously... I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, but, this is obviously a database error.

/Josephs /Franks-Franks/ /Bobs-Store (I think I found one or two other examples of generically named sub-folders)

Are you noticing a similarity?

ANY generic named sub-folder is auto-populating based on a search engine "scrape" that taps into existing business/professional/individual listings across the entire USA. I've built and deployed tools that do this exact same thing... aside from the fact that mine worked correctly.

You could spend days indexing all of the generic sub-folders that would trigger "false positive" listings. And you'll be left with a massive list of businesses and professionals that share one thing in common. A first name.

This is not a pedo activity map based on generic first names.

By all means, keep digging, but, I'm 99.99% certain that you are chasing a database error.

You can call me a shill if you'd like - I'm just trying to help you save time and focus on things that matter. Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bmMl2OGVQ0

we_kill_creativity ago

I checked other businesses that they offer on the hours website and they don't have the same problem...why not? Why just this one specific (nonexistent) business with this problem? What other non-existent businesses do they have on that website? I checked other business that I know exist, and that I know where they do and do not exist, and no problem like this.

whathaveifound ago

I too have wondered the same. Theres even a few with similar first name subfolders but not having this issue.

SoSpricyHotDog ago

I've explained this about 3 or 4 times now on the threads pertaining to "Joseph's" invisible bistro. It has everything to do with the sub-folder structure used on the CMS/web platform they've developed.

For example - let's use the pedo bait franchise of Chuck E. Cheese... https://www.hourscenter.com/chuck-e-cheeses/

611 locations in the US. Sounds reasonable. Clicking on a few states I'm familiar with, the results check out. Looks like an accurate listing! Why?

Because the sub folder is properly named /chuck-e-cheeses/

Now, if you found a man, who had himself listed as a registrant/stakeholder/independent business, who's actual name was "Chuck E. Cheeses" - he would be included.

Let's go to Joseph's: https://www.hourscenter.com/josephs/

Notice the sub-folder?

Bob's: https://www.hourscenter.com/bobs-stores/ (Clicking on links drives you to a random business named "Bob's Custom Heating & Cooling" - https://www.yelp.com/biz/bobs-custom-heating-and-cooling-brown-city))

And then there are at least 2 or 3 more generic named sub-folders that also create the confusion/false listings.

we_kill_creativity ago

You didn't actually respond to anything I said...nice. As I said, I, and others, have found several of these places that have nothing to do with anyone named Joe, Joseph, Joey...etc. So,,,Just stop with your BS. I'm not attacking you because you're critical...I'm attacking you because you're obviously wrong, I see it...you see it...everyone sees it...

Also, explain how you know their sub-folder structure (which, even if you do, doesn't explain the businesses that have nothing to do with "Joseph", so don't act like it does.)

SoSpricyHotDog ago

Dude. How dense are you? I specifically said registrant... as in, property owner or address registrant. I've scouted no less than 20 addresses that were in neighborhoods, and guess what?! Every property I found had a listed owner with the first name "Joseph".

It doesn't have to be a business based on this database error.

So, who's "obviously wrong" now? "Everyone sees it.

whathaveifound ago

Found another one "Teri Teri", An actual Japanese restaurant. I checked a few of the listings and it led me to a Hair Salon (cant find a Teri name link) and a Lawyers office and then a residence (weirdly also its on the water and boat can access international waters). I cant find any names with these addresses but I am seeing a pattern with these double names from HoursCenter. I have found some sites located near streets with names associated with Podestas emails. I feel this could be a database issue but there are lots of coincidences too. What bugs me is why would the site admin not fix this database, Why pay hosting fees for a garbage site with erroneous info? Could this be designed to appear like a database error and keep these locations hidden in plain site among the chaos of bad data?

I am really trying to find the answers here. So far I'm on the fence.

Godwillwin ago

I cross referenced the Joseph locations in my city and they are all legit places with the name Jospeh in the title or an owner with the name Joseph. I know many of the businesses that came up and they aren't pedo fronts- it's just a list of literally all the places in the city with Joseph associated with them

whathaveifound ago

I and others have found locations that did not have Joseph as a owner.

carlofusilier ago

Came to say the same thing. A local one was a construction company named Joseph's.

SoSpricyHotDog ago

Accessing the data is the only way to "spike" hosting fees... they get a good bit of traffic surprisingly: https://www.spyfu.com/overview/domain?query=hourscenter.com But, a site where 99% of the people are looking for specific biz listings, likely won't raise any alarms when 1 out of every 10,000 visitors clicks on a random "Joseph" listing that they are not actually looking for. Sidenote: They are relatively new. So, whomever is behind this seemingly terrible site certainly knows how to get some love from Google.

If the coincidences add up and amount to something more sinister, then I'll change my story!

But so far I'm not seeing much in the way of deeper/darker connections... perhaps I'm being too skeptical?

whathaveifound ago

A good dose of skeptism is healthy. With this site being new and it's boost from Google makes me wonder if this was setup and launched as a distraction or trap. Or it may simply be a new site that was poorly configured.

SoSpricyHotDog ago

Actually, despite the aesthetic shitty nature of the site... it's structured in a very search friendly manner. They've deployed schema data and have all listings pre-optimized via algorithm. Organic search traction can be had very quickly these days. The "boost" from Google, from what I can surmise, is purely natural and based on the MASSIVE amount of listings they've scraped in a short period of time.

Unfortunately, search engines don't scrub/penalize inaccurate listings. The risk is too high for them to alter/delete listings that are actually accurate and appear to be erroneous. One day, if that happens, HoursCenter.com would still have a very high traffic volume. Due to the BS listings not actually being clicked on by real users (because they won't be looking for these random residential/small business listings in almost any scenario)

iamthepizzanow ago

Upvoat for you

AwwHellNaw ago

I'm looking through these locations in towns I'm very familiar with, because whatever this is, apparently there's tons of them around. So I'm trying to be skeptical thinking its a database error like one goat suggested but from the ones I've looked at, they all have something in common: they're all buildings that you pass by but don't really pay any attention to. Buildings that don't really get a lot of traffic but when its there you don't think twice about it. Bizarre as hell.

whathaveifound ago

I was looking around on the HoursCenter site and checked listings under the Hot Dog cuisine tag. Theres a place called Frank's Franks and has 17,574 locations in 51 states. Checked the locations for an area near me and was shocked so many were listed for a place I have never heard. Who would have 15 hot dog joints in one city. The menu is all about hot dogs and the items have weird names. Something is going on and i don't think its a database error. We all know what they mean by "Hot Dog". I will continue and research the locations listed but i wanted to post my findings so others can check their areas. The URL for this place listed on HoursCenter is a expired site www.frankbiggsmra.com

Also searching for Frank's Franks in a search engine only returns results for the HoursCenter site. Not sure what happened the first time. Now I am getting results for Franks Franks in search engines and its a roaming food truck and another is a restaurant.

Maybe they picked common names for this scheme to blend in and keep hidden.

My next location for Franks Franks is a site for launching boats. This waterway can eventually lead to international waters!

Come on!! Theres a Franks Franks in Bastrop, TX and the near cross street is WALNUT. This is blowing my mind.

anonymousgate ago

Wow, great work! If there's Joseph's Bistro AND Frank's Franks it really adds to the idea that its not just a database error.

whathaveifound ago

And the deeper I look and research the locations I am even more convinced that this has to be the worst DB ever or a clever and sick search tool for these fucks.

ThePedoHunter ago

Bingo.....as if these pedos havent developed thier own database to connect. Pol said it best - maybe the biggest find ever

we_kill_creativity ago

Not sure if it's important, but the website all these locations serve is for a particular chiropractic office (apparently) and they have a section of the website called "Children and Chiropractic" https://www.fiorechiro.com/page/kids-and-chiropractic-video.html It just has a video about how important it is for kids to start chiropracitc services early. They say it starts during pregnancy.

EDIT: This is the google results page for the doctor of the website: https://www.google.com/search?q=Joseph+N.+Fiore,+DC+Pasadena,+MD+21122&ludocid=5634501400819656938&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjzg5ua6pHVAhWIx4MKHUKcBxcQoAIIKjAA&biw=1540&bih=687

9873865? ago

I found another location linked to a military base the San Antonio Military Medical Center aka Brooke Army Medical Center https://www.hourscenter.com/josephs/san-antonio/6737978/

Number is possibly connected to a radiology department https://duckduckgo.com/?q=(210)+916-4218&t=ffsb&ia=answer

I was there a long time ago, but never saw this place.

9873736? ago

This is very weird; there are locations on military bases. I checked a couple that I have been to. First there are two locations at Tripler Army Medical Center. https://www.hourscenter.com/josephs/hawaii/tripler-army-medical-ctr/ I have never seen these in my time there, but I googled the numbers. One came up as being an appointment line for a neurology clinic, and the other seems to be connected to, possibly the orthopedic clinic https://duckduckgo.com/?q=(808)+433-5964&t=ffsb&ia=answer https://duckduckgo.com/?q=(808)+433-2778&t=ffsb&ia=answer

One at Fort Campbell, KY (Considered to be in TN on the website) is a dental clinic; I haven't been there for almost a decade, but I am 100% sure there was no restaurant there at the time https://www.hourscenter.com/josephs/tennessee/fort-campbell/ https://npiregistry.cms.hhs.gov/registry/provider-view/1861412017

we_kill_creativity ago

Both locations in my very small mid-western town are chiropractor offices. I know exactly where they are.

iamthepizzanow ago

DC:

901 New York Ave Nw - Capital One bank

3301 New Mexico Ave Nw, Ste 305 - Fancy building, no idea what it is but its pretty big, like a state building or something

555 13th St Nw - office building across from a PNC Bank

725 12th St Nw - Macys and APCO Worldwide(independent PR firm)

1776 K St Nw - Nice office building - Wiley Rein - law firm

1011 New Hampshire Ave Nw - Looks like a house on a residential block in the city

1056 Thomas Jefferson St Nw, #A - some sort of small residence i think - has a word under the buidling number that i cant make out

1700 14th St Nw - Obvious front "Verizon" building with a security camera pointing at the extra secured door. This one gave me goosebumps. Way too suspicious. Has fucking barred windows too! This is fucked, theres also an old painted heart under the verizon sign! It looks like a prison. There is also a security cam on the back of the building pointing at an barred up service entrance or something. Shady as fuck. Heres a maps link

1700 14th St NW Ive broken up the link due to the domain being banned from voat, just connect it yourself https:// goo.gl/maps/pZmNkJ3a4mE2

Will continue to investigate addresses and post updates.

1776 K St Nw, #840 - another listing found at the Wiley Rein law firm

2150 Pennsylvania Ave Nw - Cancer research center - medical faculty associates

niggadamus ago

1700 14th St Nw did you see that van? wtf kinda locks are those wtf kinda internet they got in there?

Rmm ago

I called a Joseph's listed in my area , and a priest answered the phone"St Joseph's"!

SayWhatNOWAY ago

You guys we are either being played, or there is some glitch in which Joseph is being picked up. Not every Joseph being picked up on that link posted by OP is associated with Pedos ect..
I agree though this is strange!

Votescam ago

But has any actually found any real physical Joseph's Bistro existing anywhere?

TheSeer ago

It could be a list where only say 10% of the 'outlets' supply what you are looking for. But if you know what you are looking for, you would be able to pick out the 1 in 10.

MAGA_OR_GTFO ago

See my other comment one minute ago.

SayWhatNOWAY ago

Ok, interesting I put in my state, town ect. It came up under names of my local hospital, a medical clinic and a diabetic center WTF!

*** ok so seems these listings have an association with a person/s with name Joseph! This has to be some kind of glitch guys! No way all these places are Pedo related.***

SoSpricyHotDog ago

Ding ding... yeah, I've laid out multiple explanations that this is simply a database error, but, no apparently no one wants to believe this.

Godwillwin ago

I believe you

I live in a sort of big city so there are a lot that come up. I checked them all - it's just owners with the name Joseph or Joseph in the title

SoSpricyHotDog ago

Yeah, not trying to convince anyone really... the last thing I want to do is to deflate a real issue/piece of evidence. But, after spending time on this I just wanted to share the assessment!

Godwillwin ago

Absolutely! All assessments and findings should be shared. You never know where they'll lead. If I've learned anything from sleuthing missing persons cases for years, it's that.

iamthepizzanow ago

Anyone check DC?

anonymousgate ago

Theres 234. Wish there was an easy way to map all of these.

https://www.hourscenter.com/josephs/washington-d-c/washington/

iamthepizzanow ago

Whoa. Would be a good place to focus on and start connecting more dots.

3141592653 ago

so it seems to me that this site is listing any place with Joseph in the name... I investigated the one by me, and the name of the place is the owner's name, and the owner's first name is joseph. is there any evidence that there is something more nefarious going on here?

we_kill_creativity ago

I've looked at a handful in my area and not all of them have a Joseph in the name.

3141592653 ago

but I think if you look deeper you might find that the owner's name is Joseph....?

Kawksnahch ago

The major cities have 4 pages full of Joseph'ses... whaaaat the fuck

Kawksnahch ago

Holy crap... have y'all looked at the big cities? Hundreds....

2impendingdoom ago

I found some near me in residential streets. If this is not pedo, it could be drugs (hense medical associations), or even some kind of cia front/safe house.

heygeorge ago

Someone (you, if willing) should archive these links and post them, please.

ECW ago

I have a subvoat for this specific topic https://voat.co/v/invisiblebistro

Shillfest2017 ago

I looked up my local Joseph's Bistro from your link listing their locations. I don't want to go into specifics about the location for fear of being doxxed, but it looks like it is a suite in a hospital. The link you gave me shows they have around a 4 star review with a couple hundred reviews. Doesn't make any freaking sense because I'm very familiar with the area and I've never heard of this place in my life. Who the fuck would go to a hospital to eat italian food? I'm pretty confused.

EDIT: I searched Joseph's Bistro on Yelp for my area, and I can't find a single one. But when I pull up the Joseph's from your link in my area, it's listing 30 or more "Joseph's" in my area.

2impendingdoom ago

I wonder if this is connected to the hospital's food service/cafeteria, but still all of this is super weird.

anonymousgate ago

This is a Joseph's cafe. When I cross reference the address on the hourscenter website, the address on that yelp does not show up. I think that's just a random shitty cafe.

9871307? ago

Interestingly the owners name " Abrahamian " Is also a Dr in the same area . Looks sketchy to me but I'll leave it alone for now.

independenceday ago

OMG! I just clicked on the "bizarre one" link above http://thepulsemag.com/wordpress/2011/05/0511-review-carmellas-italian-kitchen and realized I ate at Carmellas Italian literally decades ago! Went to school in Amherst, MA. This place was NOT located in "Brookfield" on route 9, but in Hadley on route 9 and closed permanently in 2012 it looks like. So, I don't know what is up with reviewer literally LYING about the location. https://www.facebook.com/carmelinasrestaurant/?hc_ref=ARSGDp9Wlqo0g-c5gpbcT4zZ2RqX2o2qomiLKT-2GkD99_dtPu2NtZVk4H2oA3oZt3I&fref=nf

Blacksmith21 ago

I just got that nauseous feeling when you know that the entire thing is a pedo shell game. I know exactly where this lead is going. Except maybe we can do something about this if it is ongoing.

I will say this - If the FBI or other LE/IC are watching, you better get your asses in gear now and shut it down because they are about to get spooked.

ThePedoHunter ago

Guys, its a pedophile database. We've just hit the jackpot. Its how these kiddie fckas communicate - scheming, hubris and their own culture. This is big. I like what someone said on POL - kidnap one of the degenerates, torture them until they spill the beans, post results.

MAGA_OR_GTFO ago

A FEW FACTS YOU MAY BE INTERESTED TO KNOW

Ron Hendrickson has worked with the Clinton Foundation.

He also served on a special committee when Bill was president.

Finally, went to school to North Arlington High School, along with some Podestas.

That is all I know. Verify it yourself.

Blacksmith21 ago

I am assuming you mean Arlington, VA. If so, there is no such high school called "North Arlington High School".

Verify it yourself.

2impendingdoom ago

the Podestas grew up the Chicago area, or a state near Chicago.

DarkFinger ago

So I looked up the Joseph's bistro location in Bastrop TX, a small town near Austin (which has 66 Joseph's location- none of which I have ever seen or heard of) and lo and behold the Joseph's address appears to be the middle of the highway. It also happens to be located 2 blocks from the masonic temple right across the street from a CASA child advocacy center that has a heart within a heart logo.

Rmm ago

so bizarre!

independenceday ago

I checked my town and found 6 listings. I checked all addresses for all 6 and found that they were names mostly of medical people, and all had the name JOSEPH in their name....I am wondering if JOSEPH is not a code or an ANCRONYM for something??? NP (Nurse practitioner), Physician, Catholic Church, Anesthesiology, optometrist , 1 private residence, 1 LLC

iamthepizzanow ago

Probably because it's a very common first name lol

20Justice4All17 ago

On the original post, someone linked to an article written by a deprogrammer who goes into detail that pedosatanists use Joseph (father figure of Jesus) in a sac religious way toward their victims

Judgejewdy ago

That's a disturbing thought re: these locations.....

Piscina ago

That was me.

20Justice4All17 ago

That was one helluva article. Evil stuff

RagingShieldMaiden ago

Pedosatanists also use Josef Mengele as inspiration via SRA to inflict trauma via MKUltra.

Magonia ago

I found 12 listed in my local city and decided to call 1 of the listed numbers. It was a dermatologists office. I think you may be on to something...

bfriend13 ago

It's a restaurant that went out of business in 2012. http://www.sentinelandenterprise.com/rss/ci_20035588

Your map search is facing the wrong way, the restaurant was across the street. My guess is it's now a Subway and Dunkin' Donuts. From the link above - "Pandiscio's father first bought the building that now houses Subway and Dunkin' Donuts in 1978 and opened the Little Town Hall, changing the name to Joseph's Bistro in 1995."

anonymousgate ago

Thank you, I corrected the post.

bfriend13 ago

It is weird that it gets listings all over the country, including five places where are live.

SeanBox ago

It was @ferref with the post you're referencing and this is his side of the conversation I was having with him in my inbox. https://i.imgjar.co/jar/Ym2CANaNCEuYOZBgvRRaMw.jpg Thought it seemed relevant...

Edit: his account has been nuked.

2impendingdoom ago

thanks, I hope he is okay. this is super weird and I wonder how he found "Joseph's Bistro" in the first place.

ronnyCPI ago

The website www.fiorechiro.com directs to a chiropractor with Clinton administration ties named Ron Hendrickson, who also happens to be Deputy Executive Director of ICA, International Chiropractors Association.

anonymousgate ago

thanks i'll add this to the post.

we_kill_creativity ago

This is obviously pure speculation (both the places in my small town are chiropractors too), but aside from dentists, chiropractors also have chairs and, frankly, are expected to get more personal with you than a dentist. Doctors in general have historically been seen as "leaders" of the community.