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DarkMath ago

I don't think he was going to expose anything. He himself had been accused of corruption along with the Clinton Foundation:

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/haiti/article160983614.html

Maybe I read that Miami Herald article wrong. I didn't see any mention of him "turning state's evidence".

Are_we__sure ago

You are correct that YourNewsWire is pushing fake news. And nothing in the original article in the Miami Herald mentions he is facing corruption charges.

But then you make a further charge which is not supported by the article. Provide evidence the Clinton Foundation has anything to do with the investigation by the Haitian Senate’s Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission mentioned in the article.

DarkMath ago

"you make a further charge which is not supported by the article."

Which was that?

Are_we__sure ago

The article has nothing to do with the Clinton Foundation. The committee investigating this guy has nothing do with the Clinton Foundation. So where's your evidence for that claim?

DarkMath ago

"So where's your evidence for that claim?"

Here ya go AreWeSure. Once again your un-diagnosed white privilege has once again led you astray. According to the Haitian based reporter Klaus Eberwein was expected to testify about the Clinton Foundation among other things:

http://sentinel.ht/2017/07/15/former-official-found-dead-ahead-senate-testimony/

Archived: http://archive.is/6NMhp

When Hillary & Co are finally brought to justice a thousand Historians will replay the tapes a thousand times. They'll undoubtedly find their way here and find your steaming pile of institutionalized naivete stinking up the place and have to address it. How could they NOT? You are the most naive person on planet Earth.

What questions will they ask? They're going to start asking how and why the AreWeSure's of the world could be so severely out of touch with reality. The Historians will have to address those questions because knowing the answer will be crucial in preventing a future cluster fuck of this magnitude.

@Are_we_sure @kestrel9 @stellardrome

Are_we_sure ago

You are a very dumb person and a terrible diagnostician.

Go look who that article links to? Don't see the links. That's because that dishonest site doesn't put the links in body of the article. Look at sources. Most of that article is directly ripped off from the Miami Herald. The other source is YourNewsWire.

@kestrel9 The article is not originally reporting. Check the sources. It literally takes everything from the Miami Herald and YourNewsWire.

Post source : Miami Herald, YourNewsWire

So this is incorrect. The Miami Herald omitted nothing. YourNewsWire add fake news and the Haiti Sentinel points back to their fake news.

July 12, Miami Herald omits info implicating Clinton Foundation, info that is included on the Haiti Sentinal coverage of the story on July 15.

As for that Brett Baier report, he had to apologize for that story two days later after other news organization ripped it apart. Nov 2

On Date November 2, 2016 Fox News Channel’s Bret Baier reports

Nov 4

Fox’s Baier apologizes for report on Clinton indictment

Fox News anchor Bret Baier on Friday apologized on-air for reporting that there would “likely” be an FBI indictment against the Clinton Foundation for alleged pay-to-play schemes. "That just wasn’t inartful, it was a mistake, and for that I’m sorry. I should have said they will continue to build their case,” Baier told host Jon Scott on Fox’s “Happening Now.”

"Indictment obviously is a very loaded word, Jon, especially in this atmosphere, and no one knows if there would or would not be an indictment no matter how strong investigators feel their evidence is," he added.

http://thehill.com/media/fox-news-hillary-clinton-likely-indictment-bret-baier-apologizes-mistake

DarkMath ago

@kestrel9,

AreWeSure's favorite defense is the Straw Man. AreWeSure has no proof the Haitian Sentinel made up the story about Eberwein testifying about the Clinton Foundation. So what does AreWeSure do? Easy, make the debate about something Bret Baier said on Foxnews about a likely Clinton indictment. That's the same thing right?

AreWeSure please, this was officially the 100th Straw Man you've built to defend Killary Clinton. Don't you think it's getting old? It's impossible for you to prove or even know what the Haitian Sentinel reporter did and didn't know. In all likelihood they had a contact at the Miami Herald and/or YourNewWire and waited for them to break the story. Why?

BECAUSE INVESTIGATING BILL AND HILLARY CLINTON HAS PROVEN HAZARDOUS TO ONE'S HEALTH.

It's entirely possible the Haitian Sentinel WANTS YOU TO THINK YOURNEWSWIRE MADE IT UP. If you were afraid of getting suicided that's a completely rational approach to getting the story out. That's what I would do. I'd "shard" out the truth among as many people as possible to increase my chances of survival. Then I'd start praying. :-D

AreWeSure you need to apologize for that Straw Man. It's no longer acceptable for you to distort the truth so egregiously. Why? Because the evidence against the Clinton Foundation is coming out fast and furious (tee hee) these days. Remember when Eric Braverman wouldn't sign off on the Clinton Foundation's books? Of course you do.

So what I'm going to do from now on is role out the Clinton's victims wherever they are and MAKE YOU REMEMBER. Here's today's victim:

White Phosphorous + Children = AreWeSure couldn't give a flying fuck.

:-D

Are_we_sure ago

AreWeSure has no proof the Haitian Sentinel made up the story about Eberwein testifying about the Clinton Foundation.

There's a giant problem with your thesis. The Haiti Sentinel (not Haitian) themselves point to who they got the story from. And it's YourNewsWire. Thus, they cannot be confirmation of the claim from YourNewsWire at all. You really are not competent enough to use the language of logic. You should stop, it's embarrassing.

Far from from using a strawman, I'm pointing out something you once claimed to know about. (Actually this is a correct example, you had used it incorrectly.)

There's also a giant problem with your reading comprehension, because the Brett Baier story is a direct reply to something Kestrel9 brought up.

DarkMath ago

"language of logic"

I addressed this already AreWeSure. The Haitian Sentinel is, duh, run by Haitians. If they were afraid of running a story critical of the Clinton Foundation then, duh, it makes perfect sense for them to say they got the story from YourNewsWire or wherever else.

Ever hear of Gary Webb? He reported on the Clinton's drug running operation in Mena Arkansas. He "committed suicide" by shooting himself in the head with a shot gun........twice. The Haitian Sentinel saying they got the story somewhere else IS EXACTLY WHAT I'D EXPECT from a reporter who didn't want to end up being the next Garry Webb.

:-D

Oh and what about Larry Silverstein AreWeSure? You were supposed to address Larry Silverstein's comments and explain why they're not evidence pointing to a controlled demolition. Are you going to address the issue or keep pretending it doesn't exist?

:-D

kestrel9 ago

I'm well aware that the article sourced the MH, and yes I meant to change the word 'omit', but unfortunately lost track as I was looking for other sources for any of the content NOT included in the MH..i,e. the paragraphs you correctly identified as not being in the MH but in YNW. My question was whether or not I could find a source besides YNW.

In the process (and not even close to an exhaustive attempt), I found the senzanubi.wordpress.com quote describing the details of the gunshot etc. Well THAT wasn't in the MH, I'd like to know where that came from.

The point being that the MH isn't necessarily the only game in town for details involving the suicide, or the investigation that Eberwein was supposed to testify at. If you want to comment strictly on the MH article, then yes, they did not mention the Clinton Foundation.

But the Clintons do have ties to people in the investigation, that is certain. Perhaps MH isn't going to go into details about Clinton emails tying the Clintons to people involved in the Haiti investigation after an upcoming witness commits suicide, especially after running this back in 2014. http://hcnn.ht/en/2014_12/politics/430/Clinton-warns-against-forcing-Haiti-PM-to-resign.htm

Laurent Lamothe is part of the investigation. http://haitianhollywood.com/news/3374-haiti-news-petrocaribe-laurent-lamothe-defends-the-senate.html

Other articles are of interest too, for people wondering about Clinton 'connections'.

Former Prime Minister Jean Max Bellerive issued over 300 million dollars of public works contracts under what the Ethics and Anti-Corruption permanent Commission of the Senate of the Republic of Haiti established to have been rigged bids. 

As Prime Minister he co-chaired with former US President Clinton the Interim Haiti Recovery Commission.

It is useful to add that this audit and control agency is the one that had approved the initial contracts of Jean Max Bellerive with Bautista, thus making it openly bias when asked opining on legality and compliance of such dealings.

It is fair to recall that neither the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission did not enjoy much credibility when, in March 2016, the honorable Youri Latortue, in his capacity as president of said Commission, launched the investigation on the Petrocaribe funds from 2008 to 2016.  

Public opinion was unconvinced, not only because there is no recent precedent to such an endeavor but also because Latortue who had served as Michel Martelly’s advisor and, by his own admittance, cultivated “excellent rapport” with Jean Max Bellerive and Laurent Lamothe, was expected to be partial.

As the conclusions of the Commission’s work emerged with confirmed wrongdoing across party and ideology lines, those doubts subsided; just as the camaraderie between  Bellerive and Lamothe, who proceeded to engage in a mediatic war against Latortue withered.

As of this week however, with the release of copies of Hilary Clinton’s emails where unease about Bellerive and even Martelly is expressed, the Commission has scored bonus points.

Laura Graham, in referring to Jean Max Bellerive’s team writes to Bill Clinton as follows: “it’s unbelievable what they did and how stupid or arrogant, they were in doing it because when you see it, any idiot can see it’s fraudulent.” http://omegaworldnews.com/?p=27845

This article discusses Laura Graham revealing that she works for the Clinton Foundation http://cepr.net/blogs/haiti-relief-and-reconstruction-watch/clinton-emails-reveal-behind-the-doors-actions-of-private-sector-and-us-embassy-in-haiti-elections

Eventually, Hillary Clinton traveled to Haiti in late January 2011 to apply further pressure on the government. The day before the trip, there was an ongoing discussion among State Department staff about potential backlash against the international community and the U.S. Mills forwarded Clinton an e-mail from Laura (the last name has been redacted, but it is likely Laura Graham, an official with the Clinton Foundation) with the message: “Let's discuss this on plane.”

While I've yet to see a source of YNW's claim about Klaus Eberwein being ready to spill the beans on the Clintons, I can see why it wouldn't be a stretch to believe that he could, something I mentioned in an early response on this thread regarding elections in Haiti.

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37826098I

Mrs Clinton’s campaign has said she never did anything at the State Department as a result of donations to the Clinton Foundation.

But potential conflicts of interest have emerged.

After the earthquake, disaster capitalists flocked to the nation of 10 million people, which is about the size of the US state of Massachusetts.

Private contractors were eager to sell services, in what one US envoy described in a Wikileaks-disclosed diplomatic cable as a “gold rush”.

In email exchanges with top Clinton Foundation officials, a senior aide to Mrs Clinton, who was then-secretary of state, kept an eye out for those identified by the abbreviations “FOB” (friends of Bill Clinton) or “WJC VIPs” (William Jefferson Clinton VIPs). “Need you to flag when people are friends of WJC,” wrote Caitlin Klevorick, a senior State Department official who was vetting incoming offers of assistance coming through the Clinton Foundation.

So there's another person from the Clinton Foundation discussing Haiti with SoS Hillary Clinton.

Enough of that already....

Regarding Bret Baier, why not finish posting what he said ? Do you have info we don't, that the Clinton Foundation Investigation, not MATTER, is over? Knowing what we know now about FBI Director James Comey, that he was busy making sure to follow Lynch's direction in protecting Hillary, it's little wonder the Clinton Foundation Investigation received little notice. What is curious is why the DNC would run a candidate with so many ongoing investigations, and then ensure that she would win the primaries. /s

Baier said he stood by his sourcing on the ongoing active investigation into the Clinton Foundation but added that a prosecutor would have to take the case and make it to a grand jury before an indictment could take place.  

“[We] are working to get sources with knowledge of the details on the record and on camera, hopefully today,” he said.

Are_we_sure ago

yes I meant to change the word 'omit', but unfortunately lost track ....My question was whether or not I could find a source besides YNW.

Fair enough.

However, YNW didn't cite other sources, they based their story on the Miami Herald and they did so dishonestly. They deliberately and deceptively adding an accusation that the Miami Herald did not make. And they hoped people wouldn't follow their link.

But the Clintons do have ties to people in the investigation, that is certain.

So what? For one that doesn't give YNW license to make up fake news. For two, I don't doubt you make connections from the Clinton to Haitian officials and others. My point is are these connections relevant to the investigation by the Haitian Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission? There are zero news story mentioning anything about the Clintons and this commission before YNW made up it story.

kestrel9 ago

July 12, Miami Herald omits info implicating Clinton Foundation, info that is included on the Haiti Sentinal coverage of the story on July 15.

Eberwein’s death came a day before he would have testified before a Haiti Senate Committee on the management of the PetroCaribe fund and to alleged misappropriation of international donor funds by the Clinton Foundation following the 2010 earthquake.

The commission is investigating the management of PetroCaribe funds. He was also widely expected to testify that the Clinton Foundation misappropriated Haiti earthquake donations from international donors.

So much of the both articles is included the same info, I wondered if there was another source that predated the MH article. A very brief look didn't give me that thus far, but it did give yet additional info that is very interesting... https://senzanubi.wordpress.com/

Si è suicidato sparandosi alla nuca un colpo che è fuoriuscito in sede temporo frontale destra. Il medico legale, immediatamente chiamato, non ha ritenuto necessario fare eseguire l’autopsia: sarebbero bastati sette minuti primi di ispezione fisica per stabilire che si fosse trattato di suicidio. Giudizio sulla base del quale il magistrato inquirente ha immediatamente archiviato il caso. Il corpo dovrebbe verosimilmente essere cremato.

Google translate:

He committed suicide by shooting at his neck a shot that spilled into the right frontal right. The legal practitioner, immediately called, did not consider it necessary to do the autopsy: seven minutes of physical inspection would have been enough to establish that he had committed suicide. The judgment on the basis of which the investigating magistrate immediately filed the case. The body should probably be cremated.

I went to try to find another source for the YNW quote "“The Clinton Foundation, they are criminals, they are thieves, they are liars, they are a disgrace,” Eberwein said at a protest outside the Clinton Foundation headquarters in Manhattan last year." It was actually quoted a day earlier here http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1178838/pg1

I did find a similar quote by someone else, Dahoud Andre on Nov 3, 2016 http://www.haitian-truth.org/us-election-2016-what-really-happened-with-the-clintons-in-haiti/ (this article is a great read on the Clintons in Haiti)

“The Clinton family, they are crooks, they are thieves, they are liars,” says Haitian activist Dahoud Andre. He has been leading protests outside the Clinton Foundation headquarters in Manhattan and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign base in Brooklyn for the last two years.

He said protesters from his small activist group, the Committee to Mobilize Against Dictatorship in Haiti, will continue to level their allegations – so far all unproven – if the Democratic candidate wins the White House.

A comment on the article, provides strong motive for the DNC MSM obsession with their nonstop, essentially: 'obstruct duly elected president's governance at all costs narrative', they certainly don't want anyone having a split second to remember, much less talk, about this:

Bret Baier: FBI Sources Believe Clinton Foundation Case Moving Towards “Likely an Indictment” Posted By Tim Hains

On Date November 2, 2016 Fox News Channel’s Bret Baier reports the latest news about the Clinton Foundation investigation from two sources inside the FBI. He reveals five important new pieces of information in these two short clips:

  1. The Clinton Foundation investigation is far more expansive than anybody has reported so far and has been going on for more than a year.

  2. The laptops of Clinton aides Cherryl Mills and Heather Samuelson have not been destroyed, and agents are currently combing through them. The investigation has interviewed several people twice, and plans to interview some for a third time.

  3. Agents have found emails believed to have originated on Hillary Clinton’s secret server on Anthony Weiner’s laptop. They say the emails are not duplicates and could potentially be classified in nature.

  4. Sources within the FBI have told him that an indictment is “likely” in the case of pay-for-play at the Clinton Foundation, “barring some obstruction in some way” from the Justice Department.

  5. FBI sources say with 99% accuracy that Hillary Clinton’s server has been hacked by at least five foreign intelligence agencies, and that information had been taken from it.

DarkMath ago

"The committee investigating this guy has nothing do with the Clinton Foundation."

I know. They're Haitian officials investigating corruption within Haiti. But that doesn't exonerate the Clinton Foundation. I'm surprised you want make such a point.