EMW's Father / New Info / Need Assistance (pizzagate)

submitted ago by Blacksmith21

PLEASE - Figure out a way to archive the search results from the last link, below:

I don't ever claim "smoking gun", but this is pretty goddamned close. Here it is:

Harry Lee Welch Sr, Founder of Forever Young Productions and EMW's grandfather.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/salisburypost/obituary.aspx?pid=17088295 Archive: https://archive.fo/Eum5N

EMW's father - Harry Welch, Jr.:

https://northcarolinaresidentdb.com/person/DT3967638145/harry_lee_welch Archive: https://archive.fo/yUN1M

I'm pretty sure this is EMW's father as well:

https://www.policearrests.com/arrests/harry_welch_id_4528101.html Archive: https://archive.fo/O3s0m

And the smoking gun. I am 95% percent sure this is the same motherfucker. I could be wrong, but the odds have gotten too narrow - name, M.O., history, bizarre criminal records, the historical link and suppression of HWJr criminal record:

https://www.co.portage.oh.us/eservices/search.page.3?x=afGKe37OZ2pvkjcJux0w5xOAprEswq7xYBKQvkdNd1Ii6dBKFB1YL7YkOzHveTHZ3mLKsl8zg2YfHZpiFjxbQ*

If you get the search wall, search for "Welch, H".

Here is the transcript, unformatted:

1994CR00095 STATE OF OHIO vs. WELCH, HARRY CLOSED Case Type CRIMINAL (COMMON PLEAS) Case Status: CLOSED File Date: 03/11/1994 DCM Track:

Action: DISSEMINATING HARMFUL MATTER TO JUVENILE Status Date: 03/11/1994 Case Judge: KAINRAD, JOSEPH R. Next Event: Prelim Case Nbr:

Party Information WELCH, HARRY - DEFENDANT

DOB 05/07/1947 Disposition Disp Date

Address 6615 CLEVELAND RD E3 RAVENNA, OH 44266

Alias Party Attorney

Attorney EARLE, PAUL MARSHALL Address 4638 SR 14 RAVENNA, OH 44266 Phone (330)325-2525

More Party Information Party Charge Information WELCH, HARRY - DEFENDANT Charge # 1 : 2907.31_C - DISSEMINATING HARMFUL MATTER TO JUVENILE

Original Charge 2907.31_C DISSEMINATING HARMFUL MATTER TO JUVENILE Indicted Charge Amended Charge DV Related? Modifiers Stage Date

Ticket # Place of Offense CONVERSION Offense Location Date of Offense Complainant

Sentencing Information WELCH, HARRY - DEFENDANT Charge # 2 : 2921.04_C - INTIMIDATION OF CRIME VICTIM OR WITNESS

Original Charge 2921.04_C INTIMIDATION OF CRIME VICTIM OR WITNESS Indicted Charge Amended Charge DV Related? Modifiers Stage Date

Ticket # Place of Offense CONVERSION Offense Location Date of Offense Complainant

Sentencing Information WELCH, HARRY - DEFENDANT Charge # 3 : 2907.05_C - GROSS SEXUAL IMPOSITION

Original Charge 2907.05_C GROSS SEXUAL IMPOSITION Indicted Charge Amended Charge DV Related? Modifiers Stage Date

Ticket # Place of Offense CONVERSION Offense Location Date of Offense Complainant

Sentencing Information WELCH, HARRY - DEFENDANT Charge # 4 : 2907.02_C - RAPE

Original Charge 2907.02_C RAPE Indicted Charge Amended Charge DV Related? Modifiers Stage Date

Ticket # Place of Offense CONVERSION Offense Location Date of Offense Complainant

Sentencing Information Events Date/Time Location Type Result Event Judge 04/18/1994 01:30 PM COURTROOM #1 ARRAIGNMENT KAINRAD, JOSEPH R. 06/13/1994 10:00 AM COURTROOM #1 MOTION KAINRAD, JOSEPH R. 09/23/1996 10:00 AM COURTROOM #1 MOTION TO SHOW CAUSE KAINRAD, JOSEPH R. 10/21/1996 10:00 AM COURTROOM #1 MOTION TO SHOW CAUSE KAINRAD, JOSEPH R. 11/04/1996 11:30 AM COURTROOM #1 MOTION TO SHOW CAUSE KAINRAD, JOSEPH R. Docket Information Date Docket Text Amount Owed Amount Due File Ref Nbr. Image Avail. 03/11/1994 GRAND JURY RETURNS A TRUE BILL ON INDICTMENT. CHARGE: DISSEMINATING MATTER HARMFUL TO JUVENILE; INTIMIDATION OF CRIME VICTIM; GROSS SEXUAL IMPOSITION; RAPE Amount Owed: $44.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $44.00 $44.00 03/11/1994 INSTRUCTIONS FILED. 03/11/1994 CERTIFIED COPY OF INDICTMENT & WARRANT ISSUED TO THE SHERIFF OF PORTAGE COUNTY. Amount Owed: $3.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $3.00 $3.00 04/18/1994 WARRANT ON INDICTMENT RETURNED ENDORSED. DUANE W KALEY SHERIFF SERVED ON: 04/18/1994 FOR: WELCH,HARRY Amount Owed: $9.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $9.00 $9.00 04/18/1994 PLEA OF NOT GUILTY BY REASON OF INSANITY FILED. $0.00 $0.00 04/18/1994 NOTICE OF HEARING ISSUED BY ASSIGNMENT COMMISSIONERS. ARRAIGNMENT SCHEDULED ON 04/18/94 AT 1:30 PM. Amount Owed: $2.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $2.00 $2.00 04/18/1994 RECOGNIZANCE OF ACCUSED FILED. ($10,000.00 OWN) Amount Owed: $2.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $2.00 $2.00 04/21/1994 WITNESS LIST FILED. 04/26/1994 NOTICE OF TRIAL TO JURY FILED. SET FOR WEEK OF JUNE 20, 1994. Amount Owed: $4.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $4.00 $4.00 05/03/1994 DEFT HAS PLEAD NOT GUILTY BY REASON OF INSANTY DEFT ORDER EXAMINED BY SUMMIT CTY PSYCHO-DIAGNOSTIC CLINIC. Amount Owed: $4.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $4.00 $4.00 05/23/1994 DEFTS MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF MOTION TO SUPPRESS FILED. $0.00 $0.00 05/27/1994 NOTICE OF HEARING ISSUED BY ASSIGNMENT COMMISSIONERS. MOTION TO SUPPRESS SET FOR JUNE 13, 1994 AT 10:00 AM Amount Owed: $4.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $4.00 $4.00 06/02/1994 CONFERENCE FORM FILED.DEFT REJECTED STATES OFFER TRIAL SET FOR JUNE 21 1994. Amount Owed: $2.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $2.00 $2.00

2impendingdoom ago

cause of death of brother:

After their oldest son was killed in a car accident, Terri Welch, a nurse, wanted to give back to those who had tried to save him, and she became a volunteer firefighter.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-alleged-pizzagate-gunmans-parents-20161213-story.html

new4now ago

was wondering what had happened to the brother, he was only 16 yrs old, Thanks

2impendingdoom ago

except I find it strange that the brother has no obit or any articles about the accident at all, so no other confirmation except mother's statement. EMW would be 8 in 1997, can't imagine losing an older brother at that age.

new4now ago

http://www.after-death.com/Pages/Memorials/View.aspx?key=HLWelch

couldn't find anything on his death though

Now I need to find out what happened to Martha Elizabeth Welch

can't even find obit on her, but I do know .... Preceding him in death was an infant child, Martha Elizabeth Welch, who died May 3, 1984. So she must be Charles Welch's daughter?

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/salisburypost/obituary.aspx?pid=15006133

SID maybe?

pbvrocks ago

Recall from Kathy's story that she was offered up after her fathers arrest for trading pornographic pictures of her. He got off, she became a slave. Use the same logic here...would guess either Welch or Daddy Welch got into trouble. They got their "get out of jail free" card. That card was "called in" when someone had to go down for CPP. We (voaters) have the data from the server, we have the name of the DC cop this was given to, we have a clear and clean record of passing the information to the FBI and the AG offices (not saying me..I know this all exists...). We have Welch who did/did not fire a weapon inside CPP. The DC police (or FBI for that matter) would not need frickin' Mickey the Wonder Dog to solve this one...but, regretably, these CHOADS are all influenced by bigger CHOADS..so the beat goes on...and we are MADE FOOLS OF AGAIN...cant you just see rooms of them laughing at us?

Blacksmith21 ago

Has anyone had any luck determining cause of death for HLWIII?

Blacksmith21 ago

Here is another issue - I can find no record of a "DR ARNOLD ANGELESI" I've also tried "Angeles". No medical license ever held, that I can determine, in OH or NC. Is it a fair assumption that if you are being determined to be mentally stable, that any treating/attending physicians should be licensed in OH?

This is strange too.

RweSure ago

How is this a smoking gun? What is it a smoking gun for?

Blacksmith21 ago

I guess the use of quotation marks around the phrase "smoking gun" or the use of "almost" doesn't count for anything? Downvoat for you for being illiterate.

RweSure ago

Yeah and how does this qualify as an "almost 'smoking gun?'"

You seem to be talking about the odds of this being the same guy.
I'm asking if it is the same guy, then what?
Even if you prove its the same guy and the odds are it's not. Then what? What do you think this shows? That is what I am asking.

Blacksmith21 ago

That EMW comes from a long, pedigreed line of pedos, was likely both a victim and perpetrator himself (Haiti), which is an additional piece of evidence which can be levied against James Alefantis in both the court of public opinion as well as in the legal system. It fits a publicly documented pattern of association and coercion and therefore can be submitted as evidence.

RweSure ago

submitted as evidence to whom? Who are you trying to kid? This still gets you zero inches closer to evidence of a false flag.

IF, and that's a big IF, his father is the guy in another state you are talking about it, there's a simpler reading of this. Father and son are criminals. You still have no connection to anyone in Washington DC, let alone Alefantis.

Vindicator ago

@Blacksmith21, I'm giving this a "Potential Lead" flair. Great work everybody! Keep it up!

Blacksmith21 ago

Hill Street Blues?

Vindicator ago

cue theme music

RoadRunner1 ago

getting the Whoops thing. Deleted stuff. Maybe some good info on here. Thanks Blacksmith21.

hookednosedjoooo ago

reminder that Edgar Maddison Welch was also most likely involved in shady Clinton foundation Haiti shenanigans. He listed that he spoke haiton on one of his social media profiles brb im gunna find it

hookednosedjoooo ago

You did good work here but you were literally salivating over the thought of violence in another thread. Idk what to think of you

Blacksmith21 ago

I wouldn't say "salivating" over the "thought of violence". In fact, if you recall, my comments were in regards to psychological operations and information warfare. All non-kinetic activities. How is this condoning physical violence?

RoadRunner1 ago

From Linkdn, Cryptic Message: "Worked in broadcasting for 25 years. Enjoyed writing and wrote for several magazines before meeting a screenwriter (Baywatch) who encouraged me to "try it, you'll like it". I did and he was correct." HE WORKED on BAYWATCH. Connection, then, to Pamela Anderson, connected to Spirit Cooking and thus to Julian Assange's disappearance/death. WTF? Shill bait

2impendingdoom ago

I'm not sure its the same guy. I found heaps of Harry Welch Jrs just in the obits. There are probably even more still alive. The thread from 6 months ago has tons on him, but no insanity plea or rape.

Criticalthinker615 ago

rape: amount owed 44.00 Our justice system is a joke. A simple possesion charge would have landed a fine 100x greater.

Good find OP.

2impendingdoom ago

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1462172

looks like dad wasn't rapest, he was awarded Father of the year by church in 1997. But this was the same year the brother died so I wonder how that happened

dassaer ago

1) 6/29/1994 DEFT SENTENCED TO LORAIN CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION 8-25 YEARS FOR RAPE.. 2) 11/04/1996 IT IS ORDERED THAT DEFT IS PERMITTED TO BE RELEASED FROM THE CUSTODY AND CONTROL OF ROSS CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION TO BE RELEASED TO HIS WIFE.

It appears he was successful in a 'Motion for shock probation'. (How the f*** that should work for Rape, iwnk). But it's completely possible considering other 'lacking' sentences commonly seen for sexual crimes involving Juveniles . So in all probability he certainly qualifies time-wise for the churches "Father of the F***ing Year" award, even with a Rape conviction and death of a son the year before (maybe that helped him qualify??).

Blacksmith21 ago

I only do the targeting. Not the target package.

2impendingdoom ago

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1462172

lots of stuff here on dad. maybe he wasnt the ohio arrestee

2impendingdoom ago

actually I'm finding a lot of Harry Welch Jrs. I'm going to keep looking. And also trying to find cause of brothers death, born 81 died in 1997. sorry if I put that wrong in earlier comment.

Blacksmith21 ago

What needs to be dug upon are news articles surrounding the rape.

Blacksmith21 ago

I know those are the real dad and grandfather. It's the pedoonvict in OH I'm trying to definitively tie to the rest of the Welch clan. Did you see something I did not?

Blacksmith21 ago

Not 100%, but based on what I saw last year and the extreme reaction and purging of posts, I think this is the same guy.

Blacksmith21 ago

I think that was old news. There may be some solid leads to dig on in here as well. The lawyer, the judge, etc. There has to be some news articles relating to the case.

2impendingdoom ago

this works out so long as EMW is older than 23. So I wonder what happened to this part of the family??

Preceding him in death were brother Edgar Harmon Welch Jr.; sister Louise Welch Walker; son Charles Herbert Welch; grandson Harry Lee Welch III; and granddaughter Martha Elizabeth Welch.

2impendingdoom ago

quick search reveals that Harry Lee Welch III is Edgar's brother died in 1997 aged 16, did we know this? and Martha (must be a cousin) died as an infant.

Blacksmith21 ago

06/29/1994 DEFT SENTENCED TO LORAIN CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION 8-25 YEARS FOR RAPE.

Blacksmith21 ago

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06/03/1994 PRECIPE FOR SUBPENA FILED AND ISSUED TO THE PROS OFFICE FOR SERVICE. Amount Owed: $2.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $2.00 $2.00 06/06/1994 PRECIPE FOR SUBPENA (1) FILED AND ISSUED TO THE PO CTY PROSECUTOR FOR SERVICE. Amount Owed: $2.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $2.00 $2.00 06/07/1994 1 SUBPENA RETURNED ENDORSED SERVICE AS INDICATED. PROSECUTORS OFFICE. $0.00 $0.00 06/08/1994 SUBPENA RETURNED ENDORSED SERVICE AS INDICATED. $0.00 $0.00 06/23/1994 IT IS THEREFORE ORDERED THAT UPON HEARING AND CONSIDERATION AND FOR GOOD CAUSE SHOWN, THIS MATTER IS HEREBY CONTINUED FOR SENTENCING UNTIL 6/27/94 AT 1:OO PM. DEFT SHALL CONTINUE BOND PREVIOUSLY SET HEREIN. Amount Owed: $2.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $2.00 $2.00 06/23/1994 IT IS THEREFORE ORDERED THAT THE DEFT MUST SUBMIT TO ONE OR MORE TESTS DESIGNATED TO DETERMINE IF THE ACCUSED IS SUFFERING FROM A VENERAL DISEASE OR HIV VIRUS. RESULTS OBTAINED SHALL BE COMMUNICATED IN CONFIDENCE TO THE APPROPRIATE REPRESENTATIVE OF PO CTY PRE-TRIAL RELEASE PROGRAM. ALL COSTS SHALL BE CHARGED AND PAID BY THE MUNICIPAL CORPORATION IN WHICH THE OFFENSE WAS COMMITTED. Amount Owed: $2.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $2.00 $2.00 06/29/1994 WRITTEN PLEA OF GUILTY ACCEPTED & ORDERED FILED. Amount Owed: $34.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $34.00 $34.00 06/29/1994 DEFT SENTENCED TO LORAIN CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION 8-25 YEARS FOR RAPE. Amount Owed: $4.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $4.00 $4.00 06/29/1994 COMMITTMENT PAPERS ISSUED TO THE PCSO. Amount Owed: $6.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $6.00 $6.00 07/08/1994 EXECUTION FOR COSTS RETURNED ENDORSED. DUANE W KALEY, SHERIFF Amount Owed: $3.70 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $3.70 $3.70 07/08/1994 WARRANT TO CONVEY RETURNED ENDORSED. I CONVEYED THE PERSON TO THE PLACE DESIGNATED ON JUNE 30, 1994. DUANE W KALEY, PO CO SHERIFF Amount Owed: $41.50 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $41.50 $41.50 01/24/1995 DEFT ORDERED TO SUBMIT TO BODY FLUID TESTING Amount Owed: $2.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $2.00 $2.00 09/13/1996 DEFT'S MOTION FOR SHOCK PROBATION WITH MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT FILED. 09/16/1996 NOTICE OF HEARING ISSUED BY ASSIGNMENT COMMISSIONERS. MOTION FOR SHOCK SCHEDULED ON 9/23/96 AT 10:00 AM. Amount Owed: $6.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $6.00 $6.00 09/23/1996 NOTICE OF HEARING ISSUED BY ASSIGNMENT COMMISSIONERS. MOTION FOR SHOCK SCHEDULED ON 10/21/96 AT 10:00 AM. Amount Owed: $6.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $6.00 $6.00 09/25/1996 IT IS THEREFORE ORDERED THIS MATTER SHALL BE AND HEREBY IS CONTINUED UNTIL MONDAY, OCT 21, 1996 AT 10:00 AM FOR A HEARING ON MOTION FOR SHOCK PROBATION. Amount Owed: $2.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $2.00 $2.00 10/23/1996 WARRANT FOR REMOVAL ORDERED AND ISSUED TO THE SHERIFF OF PORTAGE CO TO TRANSPORT DEFT FROM THE ROSS CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION TO THE PO CTY JAIL FOR A HEARING ON MOTION FOR SHOCK PROBATION TO BE SCHEDULED BY THE ASSIGNMENT COMMISSIONER UPON DEFT'S ARRIVAL. Amount Owed: $6.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $6.00 $6.00 10/29/1996 NOTICE OF HEARING ISSUED BY ASSIGNMENT COMMISSIONERS. MOTION FOR SHOCK HAS BEEN SCHEDULED ON 11/04/96 AT 11:30 AM. Amount Owed: $4.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $4.00 $4.00 11/04/1996 IT IS ORDERED THAT DEFT IS PERMITTED TO BE RELEASED FROM THE CUSTODY AND CONTROL OF ROSS CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION TO BE RELEASED TO HIS WIFE. THE DEFT IS TO SEE HIS TREATING PHYSICIAN, DR ARNOLD ANGELESI AND SAID DOCTOR SHALL REPORT TO THIS COURT IN ONE WEEK FROM THE DATE OF THIS ENTRY. IT IS FURTHER ORDERED THAT THE DEFT HAVE NO CONTACT, DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY OR BY ANY OTHER MEANS WITH THE CLAIMED VICTIM, THE VICTIMS FAMILY OR ANY WITNESSES IN THIS MATTER. A CERTIFIED COPY OF THIS ENTRY MAILED TO ROSS CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTE BY CERTIFIED MAIL. Amount Owed: $2.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $2.00 $2.00 11/04/1996 CERTIFIED MAIL COSTS. Amount Owed: $5.00 Paid Before Conversion: $0.00 Receipt Number: $5.00 $5.00 11/12/1996 RECEIPT OF ROSS CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION ATTN RECORDS DEPT RETURNED ENDORSED. DATE DELIVERED 11/12/96. 03/04/1997 LETTER FROM RONALD W ARMSTRONG REGARDING COPIES ON THIS CASE. $0.00 $0.00 03/17/1997 LETTER FROM TONY SMITLEY TO CLERK OF COURTS REQUESTING CASE DOCKET SHEETS AND COPIES OF INDICTMENTS ON THIS CASE FILED. COPIES SENT ON 03-17-97. $0.00 $0.00 03/26/1997 LETTER TO CLERK OF COURTS FROM RONALD W ARMSTRONG REQUESTING THE NUMBER OF PAGES INVOLVED IN 9/13/96 MOTION FOR SHOCK FILED. $0.00 $0.00 06/23/2006 ITEMIZED BILL WELCH, HARRY was sent bill for $204.20. Printed on 06/23/2006 13:01:48. 10/05/2006 FIRST ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE NOTICE SENT WELCH, HARRY was sent notice for $ 204.20 Printed on 10/05/2006 09:57:48. 10/30/2006 FAILURE OF SERVICE OF COST BILL ISSUED TO DEFT. REASON: NOT DELIBERABLE AS ADDRESSED - UNABLE TO FORWARD. Image 10/25/2007 THIS MATTER IS REFERRED TO A THIRD-PARTY COLLECTION AGENT ON THIS DATE. WELCH, HARRY was sent notice for $ 204.20 Printed on 10/25/2007 09:48:29. $61.26 $61.26 10/25/2007 AR4 NOTICE GENERATED; CASE SENT TO OUTSIDE COLLECTION AGENT

CASE SENT TO OUTSIDE COLLECTION AGENT Sent on: 10/25/2007 09:53:46 Financial Summary Cost Type Amount Owed Amount Paid Amount Adjusted Amount Outstanding $265.46 $0.00 $0.00 $265.46 CONVENIENCE FEE $61.26 $0.00 $0.00 $61.26 COST $204.20 $0.00 $0.00 $204.20 Case Disposition Disposition Date Case Judge CONVICTION 06/29/1994 KAINRAD, JOSEPH R.

Brace yourself for the shitstorm.