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Votescam ago

Obviously, Sen. Pat Leahy wasn't anxious for this stuff to be known as he cautions Kathy O'Brien to "Keep your mouth shut." Despite the lack of conscience or shame there seems at least to be FEAR of this stuff being known. That's a plus for these investigations.

As for the rest of the psychobabble, imo there are two possibilities -- either what he is saying is further confirmation of alien existence and control on this planet, or what he is saying suggests that he is a victim of MKULTRA.

There was never a "god" until Elite patriarchy needed a single-all-powerful god to proclaim males superior to females.

And that was done first with the Old Testament which was written to create the "one god" theory and to cement patriarchy.

The New Testament offers a less violent "god" but still follows the Old Testament's "one god" and continues to underpin patriarchy. The "Jesus" character is in rebellion in many ways against the Old Testament and its teachings and male-supremacy seems to be one of those issues. With so many changes to the "Bible" and so many contradictions it is clear that it is history changed for the convenience of powerful people at that time. "Eat only what grows in the Garden" also suggests to me that a primary act of violence against animals -- likely first in sacrifice, but later as animal-eating -- may have been the actual act which caused the "shame" in the Garden of Eden. And, Eve continues to stand today with her message -- holding the Apple.

I do have to agree with Kathy O'Brien's thoughts that Leahy is one of the most intelligent of these manipulators.

carmencita ago

Thank you! I love your red pilling of the bible. We know they changed many things to get the outcome they wanted. Gay Saints used to be married in a ceremony many centuries ago, possibly the 15th or 16th. As for ET stuff, remember Molly Macauley? She was killed the same weekend as Seth Rich. She was a scientist working for NASA under Obama and supposedly discovered they could control voting machines by satellites @Jem777 among other discoveries that she found. These are not bazaar things, these are all possible for they have been working on this for years Why do you think NASA has been privatized? Remember, they are at least 50 yrs. ahead of where we think they are.

Votescam ago

Hi --

Well, me and Thomas Jefferson on the Bible -- he wrote a great deal about its violence.

Never heard that about Saints ... and don't quite understand it.

Homosexuals were said to have been married in the Catholic Church a thousand or more years ago before the RCC began its vile propaganda against homosexuals.

When I hit your link and saw the picture of Molly I realized that I had seen it before and somewhere had been made aware of her death and that likely it was suspicious. BUT it's the first I remember hearing that she had "discovered they could control voting machines by satellites among other discoveries that she found." AND, I certainly do not consider that bizarre. Our government put these voting machines in beginning about 1967 (1965 for the large computers used by MSM) so we are 50 years into this REMOTE manipulation of our votes. Satellites would certainly have been a step up on telephone poles which seemed to be the way the votes were stolen electronically via telephone lines at the time of Sununu.

If you are talking about Elites here ....

Remember, they are at least 50 yrs. ahead of where we think they are<

It's at least that long and likely longer . . . Cheney and Rove used to love to repeat the idea that the right wing controls our reality and that it always has.

from Daily Kos posts on 9/11 --

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/13/1449558/-Politico-Bush-administration-ignored-far-more-detailed-warnings-about-9-11-that-previously-revealed#comment_58275664

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off.* "That's not the way the world really works anymore." He continued "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

*Rove speaking/paraphrased. Wiki 2, clarification:

The source of the term is a quotation in an October 17, 2004, The New York Times Magazine article by writer Ron Suskind, "Faith, Certainty and the Presidency of George W. Bush," quoting an unnamed aide to George W. Bush (later attributed to Karl Rove ) {my emph. >

And I pretty much take that for granted -- If you simply look at the Constitution which we were all taught to honor and esteem you see that what our Founders actually did was to create an Elite Patriarchy, endowed them with land grants and gave them immense influence and control over our "people's" government, the nation's wealth and natural resources, animal-life. And the Founders did all of this while proclaiming "All are equal" and carrying out Genocide against the Native people here now thought to have been 112 million of them. They also saved the system of Slavery for the wealthy even down to the "Runaway Slave Act" and by so doing guaranteed the Civil War which also benefitted Elites by separating the nation into two separate camps of hatred which still echo today. (See: Manifest Destiny and Man's Dominion Over Nature, license to Elites issued by organized patriarchal religion which underpins Elite Patriarchy.)

I didn't get all of this but Seth Rich himself seemed to be trying to get out the story of Hillary manipulating the primaries by opening dual polling places -- one fake, of course. May have misunderstood that???

The Old World Religions of course were based in Nature and had no Satan, Devil or Hell. These were the inventions of Elite Patriarchy in order to frighten members of male-supremacist religions which they invented many thousands of years later.

Sadly, that wouldn't bar, however, alien involvement in all of our history, either.

Think Reincarnation is still a question -- but 1000 lives would seem rather exhausting!!

Did you see the SNOWDEN movie the other night on Showtime? Not sure if we know yet all that he revealed.

carmencita ago

UpVoat4U.I saw Snowden in the Theater with an open mind. I am waiting for the rest of his story. "we create our own reality" is a sign of the False Flags and Fake Actors that are creating Lies that they have invented. Kind of New Fake History they are creating while re-writing our old history and burning them down. We must stop this. The night before the winning of Macron was announced I copied some emails that were hacked from him, they were on 4chan. His mission is to create a controlled belief of what happened and is going to happen. They are planning to re-write European History to include somehow Muslim history to appease them, the Muslims, and this will make up for the overcrowding, no jobs, and disrespect for their religion, etc. This is what they are planning for our country, Europe is the Blue Print.

Votescam ago

True -- though these events are faked -- 9/11, Vietnam and many others -- we do suffer the consequences. Our MSM and Congress act as though these events are valid, true and act accordingly.

I've posted this before but not sure if you've seen it --

Our government created Taliban and Al Qaeda (actually Al Qaeda was an ancient cult which had petered out and which came into the possession of the CIA from the Nazis at the end of WWII) -- and it was all fakery that Jimmy Carter took us out of the Russian Olympics -- (See Brzezinski)

Also, the US has worked very hard to create a violent strain of Islamic beliefs -- jihad, etc. PLUS, the US has created these war situations which has created Muslim refugees and refugees from all over the ME fleeing these wars.

Religion has long been a tool of the US government for conquest just as Capitalism has been a major tool of conquest. Why not Islam, as well?

This doesn't negate what you're saying about Macron ... but it's very interesting look back at things that are still effecting us today.

The CIA's Intervention in Afghanistan Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Jimmy Carter's National Security Adviser Le Nouvel Observateur, Paris, 15-21 January 1998

Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs <"From the Shadows">, that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

Q: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

Q: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

http://www.takeoverworld.info/brzezinski_interview_shor...

AND ...

The US spent $100's of millions shooting down Soviet helicopters yet didn't spend a penny helping Afghanis rebuild their infrastructure and institutions.

They also spent millions producing jihad preaching, fundamentalist textbooks and shipping them off to Afghanistan. These were the same text books the Western media discussed in shocked tones and told their audiences were used by fundamentalist teachers to brainwash their charges and to inculcate in young Afghanis a jihad mindset, hatred of foreigners and non-Muslims etc.

Have you heard about the Afghan Jihad schoolbook scandal?

Or perhaps I should say, "Have you heard about the Afghan Jihad schoolbook scandal that's waiting to happen?"

Because it has been almost unreported in the Western media that the US government shipped, and continues to ship, millions of Islamist textbooks into Afghanistan.

Only one English-speaking newspaper we could find has investigated this issue: the Washington Post. The story appeared March 23rd.

Washington Post investigators report that during the past twenty years the US has spent millions of dollars producing fanatical schoolbooks, which were then distributed in Afghanistan.

"The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system's core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books..." -- Washington Post, 23 March 2002 (1)

According to the Post the U.S. is now "...wrestling with the unintended consequences of its successful strategy of stirring Islamic fervor to fight communism."

So the books made up the core curriculum in Afghan schools. And what were the unintended consequences? The Post reports that according to unnamed officials the schoolbooks "steeped a generation in violence."

How could this result have been unintended? Did they expect that giving fundamentalist schoolbooks to schoolchildren would make them moderate Muslims?

Nobody with normal intelligence could expect to distribute millions of violent Islamist schoolbooks without influencing school children towards violent Islamism. Therefore one would assume that the unnamed US officials who, we are told, are distressed at these "unintended consequences" must previously have been unaware of the Islamist content of the schoolbooks.

But surely someone was aware. The US government can't write, edit, print and ship millions of violent, Muslim fundamentalist primers into Afghanistan without high officials in the US government approving those primers.

http://www.tenc.net/articles/jared/jihad.htm

US/CIA created Taliban and AlQaeda via ISI-Pakistan and was still funding it after 9/11

carmencita ago

It worked so well, the repeated it with ISIS. Our govt. NOT US. Yes. They have done this without our knowledge and behind our backs. We have a bought and paid for MSM that has not done service to the American people but to our Kangaroo Govt. and the CIA Rogue Outfit that is a global org. not of the US. It needs to be abolished at once. I remember hearing something about this book program a few years ago on the news, but then it went away. This is also what they are planning here. People, read your children's text books, I am sure they are not the same as YOU remember.

Votescam ago

True -- our government has long created dictators all over the world and supported them ... and now they're busy creating "terrorists."

Yes, the "news" about the books on TV showed classrooms full of children reading violent passages from these books about Jihad written by the CIA ... though no one on TV mentioned that part of it.

Many people actually believed the story which played over and again on TV.

carmencita ago

And no outcry from the American People. This is why it is continuing. We are all on here trying to shut this down and hoping that people come to our site and read what they have been doing. When they wake up, and I believe they will, it will be phenomenal.