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Votescam ago

Obviously, Sen. Pat Leahy wasn't anxious for this stuff to be known as he cautions Kathy O'Brien to "Keep your mouth shut." Despite the lack of conscience or shame there seems at least to be FEAR of this stuff being known. That's a plus for these investigations.

As for the rest of the psychobabble, imo there are two possibilities -- either what he is saying is further confirmation of alien existence and control on this planet, or what he is saying suggests that he is a victim of MKULTRA.

There was never a "god" until Elite patriarchy needed a single-all-powerful god to proclaim males superior to females.

And that was done first with the Old Testament which was written to create the "one god" theory and to cement patriarchy.

The New Testament offers a less violent "god" but still follows the Old Testament's "one god" and continues to underpin patriarchy. The "Jesus" character is in rebellion in many ways against the Old Testament and its teachings and male-supremacy seems to be one of those issues. With so many changes to the "Bible" and so many contradictions it is clear that it is history changed for the convenience of powerful people at that time. "Eat only what grows in the Garden" also suggests to me that a primary act of violence against animals -- likely first in sacrifice, but later as animal-eating -- may have been the actual act which caused the "shame" in the Garden of Eden. And, Eve continues to stand today with her message -- holding the Apple.

I do have to agree with Kathy O'Brien's thoughts that Leahy is one of the most intelligent of these manipulators.

artfullyours ago

The New Testiment offers a less violent God because Jesus Christ paid the price for your and my sins if we should believe on Him. The age of mercy began...but do not be deceived Jesus Christ is gearing up for war! Read Revelations...war against those that love darkness more than the light and truth. There will be blood shed.

But first there is mercy...overwhelming love...a drawing of ourselves to our creator. One way God says He proves that He is the one God is that He foretells what is to come and He has done that and we are in the middle of it. Every word of His will come to pass... He says it's like labor pains...little by little they get worse and worse until His kingdom will be birthed here on earth.

Satan is an imitator...not a creator...he imitates God. There is a video out there that talks about this big tunnel that has been dug in Switzerland the Gotthard Base Tunnel it opened on June 1, 2017. They had big bizarre demonic ceremony depicting the anti christ being born into the world...crazy stuff. Well that is an imitation of what is really going to happen...because the day is coming when as it says in Revelations 11:15 "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever."

Here is the video I was talking about.

https://youtu.be/OIazxDwj-m8

Votescam ago

The right wing is really nuts about violence and a "violent" god. Revelations was written by another insane guy. Oh ... can't wait ... more bloodshed. How wonderful. Let's all celebrate -- a violent "god" is spilling blood again!!

Wouldn't you think that any real "god" would be able to get things done a bit more compassionately and neatly?

If you're insisting on a "Creator" .... then who created your Creator?

Mercy ... from a "god" that clearly will throw you in Hell to burn forever?

"god" talked about labor pains?

Every human being is capable of wrongdoing, capable of evil, capable of violence. And that's something which everyone has to understand.

If there is a "god" she is not a fascist -- she has given you free conscience, free thought, and free will ... and she expects you to use it.

Middle-men to "god" are not necessary -- as your "god" himself (Jesus) said .... "Ask and you shall receive."\

This video is obvious porn by whomever created the program -- low level -- didn't watch all the way through ...

and the tunnel is symbolic of birth canal.

artfullyours ago

I've been thinking about my reply... First of all I have lost all faith in either side.

Sometimes we post without thinking of how others may take it if they don't know what you do...I certainly do not like violence, yet it sounded like I was looking forward to it. I am not! I do believe in Gods great mercy, the Bible says it is as far as heaven is from the earth.

Yet I also believe in a day when evil will be defeated for good.

Jesus Christ is gearing up for war...against your and my enemy, satan...and those that follow him... The Bible says that he, satan, roams the earth looking for who he can destroy, he hides himself (but these days he is starting to reveal himself)

Many times God gets blamed for satans handy work. The pain and destruction he causes is to try and make us hate God...as he does.

My reference was to the fact that there is a great amount of satan worshiping going on, and that the people in that play in Sweden were depicting the anti-christ being born into the earth...because they want him here...they are horribly deceived. If you do listen to it the narrators even tell you what is happening.

It is frightening to think of, but it is happening just as the Word of God has said it would.

The Word of God has also told over and over again of his great love and protection for those who trust in Him. I am not a theologian by any imagination...just someone who has had a great amount of help given to them by the LORD in times when I did not have anyone to help. Also, it's not God who is in labor, it is the earth, earth is in labor pain. Mark 13:8 "For nation shall rise up against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; there shall be earthquakes in various places, there will also be famines. These things are merely the beginning of birth pangs."

God says that this is the way that He proves He is the one real God...that He tells us ahead of time what is to come.

Votescam ago

artfully --

One of the primary motives of organized patriarchal religions is Mind Control through FEAR. To get members to believe and OBEY and not to question. Yet, if there is a "god" that god has given you the ability to think freely, to question, a free conscience and free will and expects you to use those gifts. Further, you do not need middle-men to "god" -- Everything that you need to know comes from within you -- from your conscience.

Granted, because there is much information hidden from the public by secrets kept by organized Elites, we don't have all of the pieces of the puzzle. Certainly, knowledge of alien visitation to this planet and the fact that we may be related to some species of ET's is a big missing piece of the puzzle. ALL of the information which seemed to have been obvious to our ancestors was hidden away from the public. To further complicate things, some groups of Elites seem to have made pacts with one or more species of aliens who may want to exploit humankind, abuse humankind.

But I do feel very strongly about a universal spirituality, that we are all one. That whatever exists, we are all part of it in some way. We are ALL part of nature.

Very few of us could identify a "god" of mercy in the Bible - quite to the contrary.

**It is up to us to defeat evil **- the struggle against SLAVERY is part of it -- and that attempt to enslave others is not over by any means. It is total enslavement of body and mind they are after. GENOCIDE is still ongoing; it didn't end after our government murdered 112 million natives here. And our corrupt government continues still to steal from the natives/reservations and natural resources.

WOMEN who are the majority of the population everywhere, continue to be murdered and oppressed simply for being the opposite gender. We are the only species where males are at war with females. In order to destroy evil, this oppression of women must be ended.

AA's and Africa, itself -- and ALL exploitation of citizens of other nations and the nations themselves must be ended. We will have ended evil when we close down our for-profit, privatized prisons where so many people of color are imprisoned. Certainly evil is present in this history and continuing oppression.

HOMOSEXUALS have been abused over the last 1,000 ears and more because of the teachings of the RCC which was so successful in its preachings that even the families of homosexuals abandoned their own children. The RCC spread intolerance and hatred for homosexuals which took hold in our society and resulted in beatings, oppression and even murder of homosexuals. The new boogey man now is "transgender" and it's their turn in the barrel. This is evil at work.

NATURE itself has been under constant attack by white males -- including animal-life -- since they invaded this land. If you want to defeat evil on this planet then end the insanity and violence of animal-eating which would be a huge step in the right direction.

Remember that the Bible was written by human beings -- men who took control by violence and who wrote books to support their delusions of supremacy.

The "Satan" gimmickry is an effort to make you NOT see what is actually going on. Who is actually responsible for the violence. Whose hands committed those murders?

It is organized patriarchal religion which has brought a "SATAN" into the minds of members to make them fearful. Of course that invented "Satan" had to be all powerful ... in order to sufficiently frighten you.

If you look at the list above with an open mind, you will see that those mentioned are not the enemies of "god" but the enemies of Elites who STOLE this land from the natives people here.

From a Patriarchy which finally debased women to a point where they were being burned at the stake for their knowledge of medicine/plants, of child bearing. Where women were denied access to even their own children and/or to inheritance. Women are the eternal threat to patriarchy's existence.

Homosexuals may be nature's way of balancing life on this planet -- using them as caretakers for orphaned children, preventing overpopulation of the planet. And because each homosexual male and female share characteristics of heterosexual females and males, they may provide insights into our behaviors and serve as a bridge between males and females But they were a threat to an alleged "norm" of heterosexuality which Elite patriarchy was trying to enforce on the population.

This Elite Patriarchy is underpinned by organized patriarchal religion whose "god" allegedly declared them superior to others on this planet. Also look to "Manifest Destiny" and "Man's Dominion Over Nature" which gave Elites license to exploit Nature on this planet, to exploit our natural resources and animal-life .... for their own personal profit.

Many of us have found a higher self when we have been in need. Perhaps we are all "god"?

The earth is suffering the activities of humankind -- most notably the Industrial Revolution -- which we call Global Warming. Many don't understand that there was a 50 year delay in our beginning to feel these effects and what we are feeling right now only reflects the damage done to our planet up to about 1967. Our scientists immediately saw the damage being done to Nature by the Industrial Revolution in the 1880's.

We will also actually see increasingly more extreme weather events due to Global Warming as it progresses -- tornadoes, hurricanes, cyclones, droughts/floods. And, yes, we will see increasing numbers of earthquakes and increasing severity of earthquakes due to the melting of the glaciers which changes the pressures on the tectonic plates. In act, this was the subject of a Pentagon Memo to "W" warning him that Global Warming was a more severe threat to the US than "terrorism."

This Memo originally included "earthquakes" but that subject was scrubbed after a few years ... https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2004/feb/22/usnews.theobserver

SecureYourSeats ago

You don't know what you're talking about. There is more manuscript evidence for the Bible's historical consistency than any other single piece of literature in the world. You can see the manuscripts lined up and follow any tiny "type-o" down through the ages. And that's all you'll find are minor, harmless little errors that change not a single doctrine. If people repeat a foolish myth long enough (IE. the Bible has substantially changed down through the centuries) it become a fact in the mind of the uneducated.

Votescam ago

Oh, wow ... have you been lied to.

Sorry -- can't help you.

Do some reading if you really want to know about the Bible.

But besides that, you're supporting one of the most violent books ever written, featuring a violent god.

SecureYourSeats ago

I know the Bible very well thank you, and the amazing historical reliability of the document. And, "yes" God is a violent God, EVERY human being EVER taken down has been taken down by God's own decree. Because EVERY human being has broken God's laws and therefore only continues to live another day by His mercy alone. But the most consistent Judge ever is also the most merciful Judge ever. He personally paid the price to commute your death sentence, if you would quit spitting in His face long enough to hear Him out.

unrealisthenewreal ago

Or are "aliens" synonymous for "demons?" Never thought of this idea before going down the rabbit hole, but it's good to keep an open mind.

Votescam ago

You might be on to something there ...

We seem to be learning more about Hitler these days where there may have been some kind of Elite contact with aliens where he had expectations of weapons like UFO's - time travel. Don't know who made out better in the deal, Hitler or Aliens???

But US/Ike primarily is also said to have had Elite contact with aliens -- something like what you saw in the movie "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" w/Richard Dreyfuss.

At any rate, US supposed found three Atomic bombs in Germany -- one used for test here -- and other two dropped on Japan. Why didn't Hitler use them?

Nixon also was fond of showing off the "aliens" we had found or captured later preserved in fluid and floating in glass enclosures.

But co-opting other nations as the US has regularly done, wouldn't be much different from aliens co-opting this planet. Seemingly some would be hidden, some in oceans, whatever. And some in our government, Congress -- !!!
hmmmmm............

:)

artfullyours ago

I think so.

carmencita ago

Thank you! I love your red pilling of the bible. We know they changed many things to get the outcome they wanted. Gay Saints used to be married in a ceremony many centuries ago, possibly the 15th or 16th. As for ET stuff, remember Molly Macauley? She was killed the same weekend as Seth Rich. She was a scientist working for NASA under Obama and supposedly discovered they could control voting machines by satellites @Jem777 among other discoveries that she found. These are not bazaar things, these are all possible for they have been working on this for years Why do you think NASA has been privatized? Remember, they are at least 50 yrs. ahead of where we think they are.

Laskar ago

Only in the RC heterodox church, not in any true Christian church.

With 150 Popes what would you expect?

Also, the RC Jesuits (founded by the jew Ignatius Loyola), tortured to death an Orthodox Christian American priest--St. Peter the Aleut in California in the nineteenth century--how Christian is that?

Votescam ago

Hi --

Well, me and Thomas Jefferson on the Bible -- he wrote a great deal about its violence.

Never heard that about Saints ... and don't quite understand it.

Homosexuals were said to have been married in the Catholic Church a thousand or more years ago before the RCC began its vile propaganda against homosexuals.

When I hit your link and saw the picture of Molly I realized that I had seen it before and somewhere had been made aware of her death and that likely it was suspicious. BUT it's the first I remember hearing that she had "discovered they could control voting machines by satellites among other discoveries that she found." AND, I certainly do not consider that bizarre. Our government put these voting machines in beginning about 1967 (1965 for the large computers used by MSM) so we are 50 years into this REMOTE manipulation of our votes. Satellites would certainly have been a step up on telephone poles which seemed to be the way the votes were stolen electronically via telephone lines at the time of Sununu.

If you are talking about Elites here ....

Remember, they are at least 50 yrs. ahead of where we think they are<

It's at least that long and likely longer . . . Cheney and Rove used to love to repeat the idea that the right wing controls our reality and that it always has.

from Daily Kos posts on 9/11 --

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/13/1449558/-Politico-Bush-administration-ignored-far-more-detailed-warnings-about-9-11-that-previously-revealed#comment_58275664

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off.* "That's not the way the world really works anymore." He continued "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

*Rove speaking/paraphrased. Wiki 2, clarification:

The source of the term is a quotation in an October 17, 2004, The New York Times Magazine article by writer Ron Suskind, "Faith, Certainty and the Presidency of George W. Bush," quoting an unnamed aide to George W. Bush (later attributed to Karl Rove ) {my emph. >

And I pretty much take that for granted -- If you simply look at the Constitution which we were all taught to honor and esteem you see that what our Founders actually did was to create an Elite Patriarchy, endowed them with land grants and gave them immense influence and control over our "people's" government, the nation's wealth and natural resources, animal-life. And the Founders did all of this while proclaiming "All are equal" and carrying out Genocide against the Native people here now thought to have been 112 million of them. They also saved the system of Slavery for the wealthy even down to the "Runaway Slave Act" and by so doing guaranteed the Civil War which also benefitted Elites by separating the nation into two separate camps of hatred which still echo today. (See: Manifest Destiny and Man's Dominion Over Nature, license to Elites issued by organized patriarchal religion which underpins Elite Patriarchy.)

I didn't get all of this but Seth Rich himself seemed to be trying to get out the story of Hillary manipulating the primaries by opening dual polling places -- one fake, of course. May have misunderstood that???

The Old World Religions of course were based in Nature and had no Satan, Devil or Hell. These were the inventions of Elite Patriarchy in order to frighten members of male-supremacist religions which they invented many thousands of years later.

Sadly, that wouldn't bar, however, alien involvement in all of our history, either.

Think Reincarnation is still a question -- but 1000 lives would seem rather exhausting!!

Did you see the SNOWDEN movie the other night on Showtime? Not sure if we know yet all that he revealed.

carmencita ago

UpVoat4U.I saw Snowden in the Theater with an open mind. I am waiting for the rest of his story. "we create our own reality" is a sign of the False Flags and Fake Actors that are creating Lies that they have invented. Kind of New Fake History they are creating while re-writing our old history and burning them down. We must stop this. The night before the winning of Macron was announced I copied some emails that were hacked from him, they were on 4chan. His mission is to create a controlled belief of what happened and is going to happen. They are planning to re-write European History to include somehow Muslim history to appease them, the Muslims, and this will make up for the overcrowding, no jobs, and disrespect for their religion, etc. This is what they are planning for our country, Europe is the Blue Print.

Votescam ago

True -- though these events are faked -- 9/11, Vietnam and many others -- we do suffer the consequences. Our MSM and Congress act as though these events are valid, true and act accordingly.

I've posted this before but not sure if you've seen it --

Our government created Taliban and Al Qaeda (actually Al Qaeda was an ancient cult which had petered out and which came into the possession of the CIA from the Nazis at the end of WWII) -- and it was all fakery that Jimmy Carter took us out of the Russian Olympics -- (See Brzezinski)

Also, the US has worked very hard to create a violent strain of Islamic beliefs -- jihad, etc. PLUS, the US has created these war situations which has created Muslim refugees and refugees from all over the ME fleeing these wars.

Religion has long been a tool of the US government for conquest just as Capitalism has been a major tool of conquest. Why not Islam, as well?

This doesn't negate what you're saying about Macron ... but it's very interesting look back at things that are still effecting us today.

The CIA's Intervention in Afghanistan Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Jimmy Carter's National Security Adviser Le Nouvel Observateur, Paris, 15-21 January 1998

Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs <"From the Shadows">, that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

Q: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

Q: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

http://www.takeoverworld.info/brzezinski_interview_shor...

AND ...

The US spent $100's of millions shooting down Soviet helicopters yet didn't spend a penny helping Afghanis rebuild their infrastructure and institutions.

They also spent millions producing jihad preaching, fundamentalist textbooks and shipping them off to Afghanistan. These were the same text books the Western media discussed in shocked tones and told their audiences were used by fundamentalist teachers to brainwash their charges and to inculcate in young Afghanis a jihad mindset, hatred of foreigners and non-Muslims etc.

Have you heard about the Afghan Jihad schoolbook scandal?

Or perhaps I should say, "Have you heard about the Afghan Jihad schoolbook scandal that's waiting to happen?"

Because it has been almost unreported in the Western media that the US government shipped, and continues to ship, millions of Islamist textbooks into Afghanistan.

Only one English-speaking newspaper we could find has investigated this issue: the Washington Post. The story appeared March 23rd.

Washington Post investigators report that during the past twenty years the US has spent millions of dollars producing fanatical schoolbooks, which were then distributed in Afghanistan.

"The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system's core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books..." -- Washington Post, 23 March 2002 (1)

According to the Post the U.S. is now "...wrestling with the unintended consequences of its successful strategy of stirring Islamic fervor to fight communism."

So the books made up the core curriculum in Afghan schools. And what were the unintended consequences? The Post reports that according to unnamed officials the schoolbooks "steeped a generation in violence."

How could this result have been unintended? Did they expect that giving fundamentalist schoolbooks to schoolchildren would make them moderate Muslims?

Nobody with normal intelligence could expect to distribute millions of violent Islamist schoolbooks without influencing school children towards violent Islamism. Therefore one would assume that the unnamed US officials who, we are told, are distressed at these "unintended consequences" must previously have been unaware of the Islamist content of the schoolbooks.

But surely someone was aware. The US government can't write, edit, print and ship millions of violent, Muslim fundamentalist primers into Afghanistan without high officials in the US government approving those primers.

http://www.tenc.net/articles/jared/jihad.htm

US/CIA created Taliban and AlQaeda via ISI-Pakistan and was still funding it after 9/11

carmencita ago

It worked so well, the repeated it with ISIS. Our govt. NOT US. Yes. They have done this without our knowledge and behind our backs. We have a bought and paid for MSM that has not done service to the American people but to our Kangaroo Govt. and the CIA Rogue Outfit that is a global org. not of the US. It needs to be abolished at once. I remember hearing something about this book program a few years ago on the news, but then it went away. This is also what they are planning here. People, read your children's text books, I am sure they are not the same as YOU remember.

Votescam ago

True -- our government has long created dictators all over the world and supported them ... and now they're busy creating "terrorists."

Yes, the "news" about the books on TV showed classrooms full of children reading violent passages from these books about Jihad written by the CIA ... though no one on TV mentioned that part of it.

Many people actually believed the story which played over and again on TV.

carmencita ago

And no outcry from the American People. This is why it is continuing. We are all on here trying to shut this down and hoping that people come to our site and read what they have been doing. When they wake up, and I believe they will, it will be phenomenal.