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equineluvr ago

Who gets to decide how much money someone gets to make? YOU?! Maybe WE should all decide how much money YOU get to make.

If you're gonna argue that HE is immoral because of his activities, I'm with ya on that.

RodentLord ago

85 billion is a number attached to a unit whose value is (for all intents and purposes) arbitrarily assigned and variable. The amount of value that 85 billion represents is not something that can be come by morally. Money is a form of power, nobody collects that much power with good in their heart.

remedy4reality ago

do you ever ask yourself the HOW the money gets made

or fuck that ? success is success.

equineluvr ago

We live in a corrupt fascist oligarchy. If you've learned nothing else from PG, you should have learned that.

If you're gonna take down every corporation that is "immoral" (by WHOSE standards, BTW -- yours?), you'll have to begin with the federal government.

Good luck with that.

VieBleu ago

We can all decide to cap how much any one person makes - I propose it to be capped at 10 billion.

11-11 ago

lol

pby1000 ago

I don't mean to disagree with you, but a lot of these companies take taxpayer subsidies. I know that Walmart and Tesla do. Elon Musk was not even born an American. I believe he got US citizenship, but I do not know when he first received US taxpayer support for his business ventures.

Almost all of the military companies would be out of business without taxpayer subsidies.

I have not looked into Amazon, but I would be surprised if they are not heavily supported.

equineluvr ago

You do realize that it's the boards of these companies who decide what the compensation for the CEO is -- don't you?

pby1000 ago

Even if it is the board, they are deciding how much to compensate the CEO with taxpayer money. Why don't they compensate the CEO with revenue they earned and give the taxpayers their money back?

I did a quick search:

http://www.goodjobsfirst.org/news/amazon-received-241m-subsidies-warehouses

http://www.salon.com/2016/12/27/taxpayer-funded-capitalism-here-are-the-biggest-corporate-subsidy-deals-of-2016/

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-governments-are-giving-billions-in-tax-breaks-to-apple-amazon-and-other-tech-giants-2016-10-13

There are many more. I just searched "amazon subsidies".

These companies are not being run by corporate geniuses. They are being run by people that cannot earn enough revenue to justify the bonuses they want, so they shake down the taxpayers to make up for it.

I have these arguments a lot with people who say that Socialism does not work. It seems that one can argue that these corporations are Socialist, and it works for them. Socialism is just not available to the rest of us for some reason.