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MillstoneNecklace ago

The Pope did not "call your research a sin". What he said was a comment about tabloid journalism, which is worse in South America and Italy than it is in the English speaking world.

UglyTruth ago

No, the Pope's comment about shit eating was made in reference to fake news, and this term was used primarily to combat the growing awareness of information about pizzagate.

MillstoneNecklace ago

No, the quote isn't at all in reference to "Pizzagate":

QUESTION - A final question, Holy Father, regarding the media: a consideration regarding the means of communication…

POPE – The communications media have a very great responsibility. Nowadays they have in their hands the possibility and the capacity to form opinion: they can form a good or a bad opinion. The means of communication are the builders of a society. In and of themselves, they are made to build, to interchange, to fraternise, to make us think, to educate. In themselves they are positive. It is obvious that, given that we are all sinners, also the media can – we who use the media, I am using a means of communication here – become harmful. And the communications media have their temptations. They can be tempted by calumny, and therefore used to slander, to sully people, especially in the world of politics. They can be used as a means of defamation: every person has the right to a good reputation, but perhaps in their previous life, or ten years ago, they had a problem with justice, or a problem in their family life, and bringing this to light is serious and harmful; it can annul a person. In slander we tell a lie about a person; in defamation, we leak a document, as we say in Argentina, “Se hace un carpetazo” – and we uncover something that is true, but already in the past, and which has already been paid for with a jail sentence, with a fine, or whatever. There is no right to this. This is a sin and it is harmful. A thing that can do great damage to the information media is disinformation: that is, faced with any situation, saying only a part of the truth, and not the rest. This is disinformation. Because you, to the listener or the observer, give only half the truth, and therefore it is not possible to make a serious judgement. Disinformation is probably the greatest damage that the media can do, as opinion is guided in one direction, neglecting the other part of the truth. And then, I believe that the media should be very clear, very transparent, and not fall prey – without offence, please – to the sickness of coprophilia, which is always wanting to communicate scandal, to communicate ugly things, even though they may be true. And since people have a tendency towards the sickness of coprophagia, it can do great harm. Thus, I would say that there are these four temptations. But they are builders of opinion and can construct, and do immense good, immense.

http://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2016/12/07/161207a.html

Laskar ago

Pope Francis calls Pizzagate researchers "shit eaters": https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1836101

The RC church has been silencing victims and protecting pedos for years--by their own internal canons.

Wake up!

MillstoneNecklace ago

Did you read the interview and quote in context? If you know anything about the media and the Papal office, you would know that it's probable that Pope Francis was referring to the media who constantly misquote him (many times purposefully, just like they donwith everyone). You also link to another Voat thread that is full of mis or disinformation. I'll list a few things wrong with it...

Number one: no original sources. Wikipedia, so-called "Rational Wiki" (AKA Wikipedia for atheists), and some dude's Wordpress page do not make for valid sourcing. Neither does a documentary by Saville's best buds at the BBC. Original sources with context, or GTFO.

Number two: The Office of Inquisition existed centuries before the Spanish Inquisition; it's primary purpose was to clarify the faith and to provide fair trials using literate priests instead of largely illiterate medieval courts. The Spanish Inquisition is a separate issue, because it was a matter of the Spanish crown using the clergy to crack down on a Muslim and Jewish insurgency.

Number three: http://nationalcatholicreporter.org/update/bn080703.htm

Laskar ago

I am well aware of the ecclesiastical history of the heretic Latin Church, invented in the tenth century at the behest of the Satin worshiping bankers who wanted to use it to destroy Christianity in the West and to launch endless war, beginning with the so called "crusades".

Sad for you that you defend institutionalized pedophilia.

MillstoneNecklace ago

I am well aware of the ecclesiastical history of the heretic Latin Church, invented in the tenth century at the behest of the Satin worshiping bankers who wanted to use it to destroy Christianity in the West and to launch endless war

Yeeeeeah... gonna need a source on that one, too.

Laskar ago

Sorry you do not know the history of your own church. Do your own research, I am not here to spoon feed you. If you are unable to understand the significance of Crimen Solicitationis, then I doubt you have any awareness of how the Latin church came into being.

I'm on this forum to discuss pizzagate.

MillstoneNecklace ago

Seriously? You send me some dumbshit blog from 1998 talking about how bishops wearing "fishers of men" mitres are really Dagon priests, while proclaiming that slices of pizza are some form of paganism, and I'm the one who needs a history lesson?

Laskar ago

I never sent any such thing to you.

MillstoneNecklace ago

Sorry, confusing this conversation with another similarly blind individual.

I still don't see a legit source for any of your previous points. No documents, no historians, nothing.

This just proves my theory that most of the talk about the Church is the same bullshit anti-Catholic rhetoric that other loonies spew. Like the other guy who claims that Catholic priests are really priests of Dagon. The same level of dumbshittery.