(Mods please remove the other similarly named post if you wish, it posted by accident before completion - thank you.)
In our ongoing pizzagate discussion on this forum, we often notice strange tamperings going on. Fairly often lately there are posts months old suddenly showing up on the "Hot" section of the front page, with no new comments added.
In the same fashion, I noticed that this post, https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1956145 made less than a day ago and receiving the same amount of moderate traffic that a majority of posts received at that time, has completely disappeared from the "Hot" section (the default section that is brought up when landing on the site).
I mean, as of the moment of this posting, it has completely DISAPPEARED from the entire "Hot" section - pages and pages back. This has never happened before to any one of my 47 posts.
Here is the headline - The Empire Strikes Back - Model Reversal of SRA/Pizzagate Type Convictions - New DA In Texas Leads The Charge with New "Conviction Integrity Unit
Notice that our fave CIA rep AreWeSure has jumped all over the post like white on rice, plus has a buddy doing back up ad hominem on me.
I must add, the "Conviction Integrity Unit" is about as laughably Orwellian as it gets. C'mon guys, if you want to do this quietly, don't punk us with names like this and expect some eyebrows to not lift a bit skywards.
But the serious question remains - why so much effort to hide this line of inquirey and to quash it? Surely there is room for civilized discourse regarding this development?
Text of the original post in question:
-It appears that if a new DA comes in and says the crime didn't happen, it didn't happen. "The exoneration is the first for the nascent conviction integrity unit of the Travis County District Attorney’s Office under the new DA, Margaret Moore."
-Doctor that gave testimony of physical evidence of 3 year old girl's vaginal rape went to a conference and learned that what he saw wasn't what he saw - there are new styles of vagina now.
-The case has all the hallmarks of what we are investigating every day - "The Kellers had sacrificed babies; they held ceremonies in a local graveyard; they put blood in the children’s Kool-Aid; Fran cut off the arm of a gorilla in a local park; they flew the children to Mexico to be sexually assaulted by military officials." All of which was proven to be true to Austin officials, but now is no longer true, in part because the orginal report "was an ALL-CAPS, run-on-sentence fever dream full of breathless accusations..." and local citizens were accused of being in on it.
-Use the words "Satanic Panic" and the events, child's testimony and physical evidence is all laughable rubbish.
-The "victims" of the Satanic Panic will recieve millions in compensation from the state, effectively muzzling the atmosphere of law enforcement investigations into SRA and pedophilia incidents for fear of reprisal, mockery and institutionally programed failure.
The original Austin Police Department report: https://www.austinchronicle.com/media/content/759211/apdkellerreport.pdf
The article:https://theintercept.com/2017/06/20/texas-couple-exonerated-25-years-after-being-convicted-of-lurid-crimes-that-never-happened/
I'm sorry to see The Intercept purveying the message on behalf of elites that the hysterically named "Satanic Panic" is a legit social phenomenon, but SRA and pedogate abuse is questionable at the very least. I certainly hope the survivors in this case are able to fight this - perhaps we can do something to support them.>
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Blacksmith21 ago
When was the last time you heard of someone accused of heinous, horrible crimes like this and wasn't guilty? Even if they got off on a technicality. Oh I know....OJ was innocent.
The Kellers are as guilty. Chits and favors were called in by the Deep State which were set in motion years ago. The Kellers remained silent and for their silence, they were eventually let free on an arranged technicality - courtesy of blackmail material (NSA domestic surveillance program beginning to surface) available to the Deep State in a SCIF somewhere near the White House.
Are_we_sure ago
It happened many, many times during the same times these folks were convicted. When fraudulent "cult experts" were working with therapists and law enforcement. When the women's movement joined in and said we must always believe the children. Before we understood about how to interview children, before the research on false memories and false confessions was known. This was common phenomenon. How understanding of memory in general is light years from where it was 20 years ago.
There were zero reported cases of Satanic Ritual Abuse before 1980 when a psychiatrist out of British Columbia wrote a book about the "true story" of a woman who after years of therapy and hypnosis "recovered" memories of her mother abusing her as part of a Satanic cult. During these years of therapy and hypnosis the doctor and the patient left their marriages and became romantically involved. The therapeutic "recovering" of memory being based on another book with dubious therapeutic techniques, Sybil. The climax of this "true story" was when the girl was part of a Satanic ritual that went on for 81 straight days. When reporters went to check out this "true story" they found the girl was actually in school with regular attendance during this time she was missing for 81 straight days. She also claims that the Satanists killed someone and fake a car crash to cover up the death. She claims she was in the car with the corpse. Again there are zero records in the local papers about any such crash when even small accidents would get written up.
The author of this dubious book became an expert, lecturing to other therapists and to law enforecement. He was on big national TV shows
Over the next 15 years after this hypnosis-induced "true story," there were tons of cases of Satanic Ritual abuse report. Most were like this. Fantastic and unbelievable accounts that when looked into were always about fearful and panicked adults coercing children into "admitting" the horrible things that happened. Not understanding that by not believing the children at first, the children's stories would change, in fact, their memories would change to come up the "right" answers the adults were expecting.
Here is an actual expert reviewing the interviews in this Texas case. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuyEUOJuXw0
The Kellers did not get off on a technicality. The have always been innocent of the charges and the state finally realized that. I say of the charges and not of the crime, because in this case, no crime occurred.
Blacksmith21 ago
How about an example not apocryphal stories? Monsters don't always get caught.
Are_we_sure ago
I was not referencing apocryphal stories.
It happened to the Kellers in this case Kelly Michaels in NJ (she supposedly shoved a sword in a child and without anyone else at that school hearing a thing.) the McMartins in LA, (in this case, the children were flushed down toilets to secret rooms, abused in hot air ballons, and Chuck Norris was a special-guest star abuser.) In Kern County, CA 34 people had their convictions overturned on appeal. (Why did all these cases happen? That hoax of a book I mentioned.
In Wentachee, Washington in 1995, "Forty-three adults were arrested on 29,726 charges of child sex abuse, involving 60 children"
The prosecutor could introduce no physical evidence. 30,000 instances of child sex abuse left no physical evidence.
The fact that case after case after case was popping up like across the country showed something was wrong. The cases shared something in common.
Physically impossible accusations Therapists or law enforcement who believed in Cults were all over the country performing ritual abuse (in fact, they may have been trained that this was occurred) Heavily suggestive, almost coercive interviews of children where no was no taken for an answer.
No allegations or minimal allegations of abuse from the children before being intereviewed.
Because of this, psychologists started looking into children and memory and if interviewers could affect children's memory and they found that they had. They did experiments where they asked kids if a certain scenario happened. It was made up and the kids said no. One question was did you ever get your finger caught in a mousetrap and have to go to the hospital. Then, every week they asked the kids if it happened, pretty soon the kids would say it happened and they would paint you a picture of how it happened and who was with them. Then they did experiments where kids went to see a doctor. This visits were videotaped. The doctor did a few specific acts like tickle their feet with a stick and measure their wrists with a ribbon, In the video you below, you'll see after some interviewing a little girl claim the doctor wrapped the ribbon around her neck and was choking her.
The experiments proved it was able to plant false memories in some children through suggestive questioning and that children can come up with graphic and violent and sexual scenarios on their own.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPZu9E7C-_0
There's a reason we study the Salem With Hunts. it's a genuine issue with people, the witch hunting mentality is something we are capable of.
Blacksmith21 ago
In 10 words or less, why are you so vested in this story?
Are_we_sure ago
Unfounded conspiracism is bad for democracy and I oppose witchhunts.
How many words is that?
Are_we_sure ago
And when you look at the start of pizzagate, you see it was a deliberate hoax put out by people knowing it serve as irresistible bait for conspiracists.