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Are_we_sure ago

This is absolute dishonesty.>-Doctor that gave testimony of physical evidence of 3 year old girl's vaginal rape went to a conference and learned that what he saw wasn't what he saw - there are new styles of vagina now.

No. What he saw didn't change. He learned he didn't understand what he saw. What he thought were lacerations were normally occurring and no evidence of abuse.

The case against the couple began falling apart in 2013, when the only physical evidence of sexual assault was acknowledged as a mistake made by a young doctor with little experience examining young children for abuse.

Dr. Michael Mouw, an emergency room physician who examined the 3-year-old girl in 1991 on the night she first accused Dan Keller of abuse, was a key witness at the Kellers’ trial, testifying that he found two tears and a fissure in the girl’s hymen.

Mouw recanted, acknowledging that what he had identified as tears were instead normal variations in pediatric hymens – information he learned years later at a medical seminar.

Here's his affidavit.

-The case has all the hallmarks of what we are investigating every day - "The Kellers had sacrificed babies; they held ceremonies in a local graveyard; they put blood in the children’s Kool-Aid; Fran cut off the arm of a gorilla in a local park; they flew the children to Mexico to be sexually assaulted by military officials."

Exactly. The case was built on fantasies that everyone knew couldn't occur, but they thought it must mean something. Here's the affidavit of the cemetary caretaker disavowing the charges that they dug up graves and had the children carry the bones back to the school. https://www.austinchronicle.com/media/content/1399221/3._affidavit_of_francis_batla.pdf

Good Lord, so they were flying the kids to Mexico? and nobody noticed? They cut the arm off a gorilla and nobody noticed? Seriously? The park you mention is Zilker Park home to Austin Nature & Science Center which is like a zoo. Do you seriously think they were able to cut off the arm of a gorilla in a zoo and nobody noticed?

Why do you believe this?

There are two big pieces of evidence in the Kellers favor.

One, this was a drop-in-daycare center. People could and did come by at all hours to drop off, pick up their kids. If you needed someone to watch your kid for just two hours, you could do it here. How do you fly kids to Mexico with nobody noticing? How do kids not tell you about their plane ride until months later. The first thing they would tell you when you picked them up was "Mommy we got to ride in a plane today!"

Two. The girl had the center of this case was already seeing a therapist for severe behavioral problems BEFORE she ever came to the daycare. She bit her mother and tried to stick fork in the dog. This included acting out sexually. She was ALREADY inserting things inside herself BEFORE she came to the daycare https://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2009-03-27/believing-the-children/

A Troubled Child

By all accounts, before she ever spent a moment at the Kellers, Christina was a troubled child. In the summer of 1991, her parents, Rick and Suzanne, were embroiled in a bitter divorce, marked in part, recalls Rick, by accusations that he had been abusive toward his wife and toddler daughter. "We were both evaluated, and [Suzanne] came out as passive-aggressive, and I was a dumbshit with an average IQ," he says. But Suzanne "got to court first and said I was abusive and all that stuff." (Suzanne Guinne, now Stratton, did not respond to phone calls or e-mail requesting an interview for this story; Christina Chaviers did not respond to similar requests.) Guinne, an interior designer, told the court that the reason she sought day care for Christina was so she'd have a place to take her daughter while she ran errands related to the divorce – to court, to see her lawyer, to attend counseling. Christina attended Fran's Day Care no more than 13 times; prior to that year, she had rarely been away from her mother's side. At the same time she began dropping Christina off for day care at the Kellers, in May 1991, Guinne began taking her daughter to see David-Campbell.

According to the therapist's testimony at the Kellers' trial, Christina's behaviors were among the worst she'd ever seen. Christina had been "acting out" for months, she said, long before the child began going to Fran's Day Care. She was violent toward her mother and often bit her; she once tried to jump out of a moving car; she was behaving like a dog, eating and drinking from a bowl and defecating in the back yard; she once tried to stab the family's dog with a fork. She was inserting toys into her vagina – mostly marbles and crayons – and she was already using rough language, including the phrase "butt fuck." Whether David-Campbell was able to identify the cause of Christina's behavioral issues or whether her behavior improved with therapy isn't clear. (David-Campbell told the court that, by the end of 1992, she'd seen Christina roughly 150 times and that Christina's behaviors would wax and wane.) But as the summer of 1991 wore on, she said, Christina's behaviors were definitely getting worse.

VieBleu ago

Thank for weighing in. Certainly at times people are wrongly convicted and old cases are rightfully overturned.

If you are willing to assert an obvious confirmation bias by using the phrase "everyone knew couldn't occur", I am willing to match you and say that creating a shiny brand new "Conviction Integrity Unit" and immediately overturning a case of "Satanic Panic" as first order of business falls into the category of Leonard Cohen's sentiment in his song "Everybody Knows" - everybody knows what is going on here.

I don't care to debate in a lawyerly fashion the various merits and demerits of this case. If you would like to pay me to do so fine, otherwise no.

I am fine with letting anyone who reads this determine for themselves if they think justice has been served in either direction. There are always extenuating factors that may be at play such as threats, coersion, blackmail, witness tampering, evidence tampering, pressures placed through professional channels and so on, to overturn an old, cold case and achieve the goal of discrediting the Satanic Panic 2.0.

My contention is that if pedogate is an evil perpetuated by the establishment, the establishment has an interest in changing the narrative around convictions involving satanic abuse, promoting the phrase "Satanic Panic" in much the same way the word "conspiracy" has been promoted negatively by the CIA, smearing victims/survivors, and otherwise abusing, mocking, denigrating and overturning evidence of enfranchised wrongdoing.

If you do not find any merit in this point of view for personal or professional reasons, so be it.

DerivaUK ago

So very eloquently put, Sir. A hundred up voats.

VieBleu ago

Thank you - much appreciated.

I still cannot find this original post anywhere in the HOT section, going pages and pages back. Really weird and clumsy.