John Podesta - Trading 'fresh pasta' for Babysitting? Wikileaks email 44232 (pizzagate)

submitted ago by jangles

This wikileaks email has been under evaluated. It would be much harder for John Podesta to explain this email chain. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44232

This is my interpretation of the email chain.

Conversation between

Tara E McGuiness (TM)

&

John Podesta (JP) & Jennifer Palmier (White House communications director for the Obama Administration)

Mar 1 5:10 PM John Podesta Emailed: Leslie Dach and Tara McGuinnes

Is the better part of valor to postpone to later in the week? Easy for me one way or the other since I don't have to go out.

"Discretion is the better part of valor" Discretion is the better part of valor definition. Caution is preferable to rash bravery. Said by Falstaff in King Henry the Fourth, Part One, by William Shakespeare.

John Podesta with his tricky words implying that there needs to be discretion.

Tara G Responds Mar 1 5:23

We are easy either way

TG at 5:29 PM

Call me 202-244-XXXX

TG at 6:12 PM

En route. What is the house # again?

Then the next day John P sends a reply

Thx for coming out. Always happy to babysit.

Who the fuck was John Podesta Babysitting? Tara's daughter? pictured on her twitter handle?

https://twitter.com/taramcguinness

Why did the email chain start with

Suffice to say we will not make it tonight, I am sad to say. Have to settle for the pasta john gave us at Christmas. Really sorry to miss.

Honestly I don't think pasta would be that good 3 months later. Why hasn't this been brought up earlier? Did we miss this? This is damning.

My interpretation and only an opinion here is that Tara was trading a night with her daughter for some fresh pasta C3+P16+P16, a yeast/peptide cocktail used for treating age and disease.

ronnyCPI ago

PASTA=MARIJUANA. According to the urban dictionary one of the slang meanings of pasta =WEED although I've never heard it used before. That would mean in this case that that 3-month old pasta means not-so-fresh marijuana. T.M. wanted some fresher weed is what it sounds like, and Podesta had given her an earlier Christmas present of pot that was getting old. Consider it as a possible explanation which doesn't include pedo implications, at least in this particular instance.

pby1000 ago

I am processing all of this information, but I thought I would post this while I am thinking of it.

If you recall this email from December 24, 2015, which is Christmas Eve.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/30613

If you look at the Satanic Calendar, it is customary to receive body parts of an infant male as a gift.

https://www.henrymakow.com/here_is_a_list_of.html

So...

The email in question here is from March 1, 2015, which is the day to celebrate St. Eichatadt according to the Satanic Calendar.

It is customary to drink human blood for strength and homage to the demons. The blood can be from a person of any age, male or female.

I am not sure if this helps any, but I am posting it so others can consider if it is useful or not. Like I said, I still need to process the information of this post.

Truthseeker3000 ago

My interpretation is this: I strongly believe this is a satanic ritual abuse family who, although, do love their children, also have them abused sexually to dissociate and fracture their minds young. They likely were brought up the exact same way. I'd bet money Podesta loves doing this so he's likely a go to guy to send your kid to for this fucked up shit. Further, about the pasta, remember that pasta is a little boy, it may be possible that the McGuiness woman is trading her kid for a little boy that she is abusing for that time period. I know, beyond sick and messed up it's so hard to fathom but look at Hollywood elite families like the Hiltons, etc, all those kids had the same upbringing. No doubt about the fact that Podesta is a sick sadistic man. God help that poor child.

LostandFound ago

This chain is in response to another chain

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/55152 - this is the invite over for the party

And here is the earlier part of that chain, you can see from the subject its a response

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/58550 - also attached here is the pic shes talking about with snow and traffic

Unsure the implications of this chain, if any, but said I would add where I can. Not sure if ceddit will still have the old threads, but there used to be a dozen or so master threads for each mail drop that breaks down all these emails pretty well. the old sub where we broke them down was /r/DNCleaks but as I understand the mods there were replaced shortly after the podesta emails and quite a lot of valuable content has been scrubbed.

Are_we_sure ago

but pretty unlikely to be dried and gourmet.

Oooh Lordy, this is not true. The mis-assumptions about Italian food has, as an Italian, been one of the weirdest parts of this whole story. But I believe this pasta is homemade. From previous emails it appears John would make pasta and sauce and give them as Christmas gifts.

whatonearth ago

Somehow this reminds me of one of the funniest aspects of /v/pizzagate, which is that a lot of people here earnestly believe that John Podesta's mom literally legally adopted 25 of his adult friends. (Although I remember one guy who recognized it as a common figure of speech but somehow decided that it meant she was the "elder female High Priestess" of 25 Satanic acolytes.)

Are_we_sure ago

I genuinely wonder if some level of autism isn't in play here. Humor, metaphor, figures of speech are all read literally to a level that is not normal.

remedy4reality ago

You are such a retard. Gee, why is Podesta at the WAPO lobbing bombs at Trump with the full protection of the CIA ?

Why won't the MSM legitimately and thoroughly destroy the PIZZAGATE allegations using common sense explanations for Podestas pasta and pizza language replete in his emails.

Why does Hillary refer to PG in a commencement speech if it is so 'ridiculous and far fetched'?

Why do the vast majority of people who look at the evidence think its TRUE, causing awareness to explode over the last few months?

turitelle ago

If you think about it, its actually a useful thing when people play devil's advocate. If this forum becomes an echo chamber where nobody can put any other ideas out in the search for truth then it will fail. For your information, it is possible to disagree with what somebody says and state your case without calling somebody names. Calling somebody a "retard" only detracts from and invalidates the point that you are trying to make.

remedy4reality ago

Maybe you should come up to speed on who this shitbag, are-we-sure, is before you weigh in...

Dressage2 ago

LOL Bada bing!!

Kacey ago

Yes grandparents babysit kids. But really, John Podesta. People with that kind of money and power are busy folks, unlikely to babysit eh? They hire nannies to watch the kids. This man who is a mover and shaker in Washington DC is going to take time to watch someone else's kids? Unlikely.

Are_we__sure ago

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/196/Argument-from-Incredulity

You are making an argument from incredulity which means you are arguing against something simply by claiming you can't see how it would happen.

This email is not describing a long venture. Why would you need a nanny? It seems like one visit. What does having money and power have to do with it? It's about somebody's preference. I know a really rich guy who spends his money on tortoises. Does that make sense to you? Answer: It doesn't matter, it just is true.

After something has happened, it's probability of happening is 100%. For example, it seems really unlikely that someone would leave a bar at 1:30AM and then instead of going home walk the streets for hours making phone calls. But that's exactly what Seth Rich did the night he was murdered and the evidence of his phone calls shows this. So the likelihood he would do that that night is 100%. It no longer matters at all how unlikely it was the night before it happened or if I can understand this. It happened. And my own personal disbelief of why he would do this doesn't matter

Dressage2 ago

How do you know Seth Rich made those phone calls and not his murderer(s)?

Are_we__sure ago

Good Lord. How do you think I know that?

The cops interviewed who he was talking to.

Dressage2 ago

Rightttt. Just like they spoke to all the patrons and employees at Lou's Bar after Seth was murdered. After they pulled all the videos at the corner he was supposedly murdered at.

RweSure ago

Rightttt.

Ah, argument from arrogance. Just perfect. Nothing says,* I'm a idiot who can't be bothered to look up the basic facts* like Rightttt.

From the very first reports we know that he was on the phone with his girlfriend right before it happened.

On the last night of his life, Rich stayed at the bar until it closed around 1:30 a.m., according to a Lou’s bartender.

Two hours and 49 minutes later he would be lying on a sidewalk, dying.

A log of Rich’s phone calls, compiled by the family, accounts for a large chunk of that time — about two hours 15 minutes. But it doesn’t explain why he took so long to make a walk home that should have taken about 40 minutes.

There’s been much speculation that Rich went to another bar, the Wonderland Ballroom, after leaving Lou’s. But a person who spoke to him that night and agreed to be interviewed on the condition of anonymity said he did not go there.

Rich placed at least five calls and received two incoming calls, according to the log. The first three were placed before closing time — two to his father, who’d gone to bed early and didn’t hear the ring, and one to a friend; they lasted only a minute.

Rich seems to have been on the phone with another friend, who had called him, when the bar closed. That 12-minute call ended at 1:33.

At 2:05, he called his girlfriend, who was in her home state of Michigan. They spoke for 89 minutes. Then the call dropped. A few minutes later, he called her again, and they spoke for 43 more minutes.

At about 4:19 a.m., Rich told his girlfriend he was almost home and said, “I gotta go,” according to Rich’s father, who has spoken with his girlfriend. (She asked not to be named or quoted because of continuing harassment of those connected to the case.)

Rich didn’t sound alarmed. His girlfriend, according to a person familiar with the events of that night, went to bed thinking there was nothing amiss.

DarkMath ago

AreWeSure what's the name for the type of argument where you have jack shit to defend yourself with but you're definitely guilty and have to say something, anything to maintain the appearance you're not getting desperate?

For example maybe you've run a decades long Crack Cocaine business making money off the suffering of poor black people in say Los Angeles or Detroit and the heat is on big time so you start talking shit.

God I miss the 1980s so much it hurts.

:-D

@Kacey

DeathTooMasons ago

Somebody decided not to error on the side of caution, and allows John Podesta to babysit their kid? They would have to be an occultist/Satanist themselves. Or just the worlds worst mother.

crashing_this_thread ago

These people pimp their own children or their adopted children.

Dressage2 ago

Hey, Tammy Luzzatto thinks her grandkids are for entertainment in the pool for her guests. Would you consider that a form of pimping?

crashing_this_thread ago

Without a doubt.

mooteensy ago

Yes.

duhiki ago

Pool entertainment to be ubered in, because it's not like the kids were already there visiting grandparents. They were brought in specifically to be entertainment.

Worlds. Worst. Grandparents. EVER.

kazza64 ago

i would never trust a 50yr old man who offers to drive to my house alone and babysit my kids..... so many red flags .... its not normal behaviour..... unless you're a paedophile then it fits the profile

Are_we_sure ago

offers to drive to my house alone

He does not do this. Read the email again. He is the one they are visiting, the one who doesn't have to drive. Y'all keep getting basic facts about these emails wrong. Like straight up poor reading comprehension.

kazza64 ago

i wouldnt care if he did drive to my house ..... he still wouldnt be looking after my fucking kids

DeathTooMasons ago

Got any grandkids? I can babysit the shit out of them too.

azamber ago

This thing about 3 month old pasta being somehow "weird" drives me crazy. Dry pasta is good for a very long time. If the Podesta's make pasta, for a xmas gift, for example, I'm sure it would still be good in 3 mos. (Dry, homemade pastas.)

I'm more concerned that the Podestas babysit anyone, than anything about pasta.

srayzie ago

John Podesta isn't going to eat pasta, dry or cooked, that he has to "settle" for.

DeathTooMasons ago

Why would the reference a specific pasta that might not have been consumed yet? Just say you want to have Pasta, not you want that pasta from a few months ago from Sheila's party. Yeah, I think it is weird.

Are_we_sure ago

because they are referencing a gift. They won't be able to visit John instead will use they gift he gave them.

thelandofchocolate ago

And the need for discretion?

Are_we_sure ago

Discretion has multiple meanings. It means making good judgements in this case, not being private. Shakespeare wrote that in the 1590s, so it is not modern usage. Discretion is the better part of valor means not to be foolhardy. In this case it means, let's not drive on an icy road

jangles ago

Podesta gets to 'babysit' and what do they get in return? The extent of exploits is profound, do you know about Parabiosis?

Paranoiaattack ago

Where has it been pointed out that pasta means peptides?

freeagent37 ago

Marvelous work! We all can see very clearly that these people are always talking in code, things are being revealed, the sickness is becoming more obvious thanks to people like yourself.

jangles ago

Thanks freeagent37, there are many people out against my findings, some with good arguments. I am just dumbfounded by the stature of the elite who think they could get away with this shit. Harvesting peptides for creams is real, and highly under regulated as 'synthetic peptides' technically and legally can be generated from 'raw materials' harvested from humans and resold as 'synthetic'. THIS HAS TO STOP.

Dressage2 ago

I agree with your answer. Look at how many Afro-American children disappearing in DC alone! Melatonin is a hot commodity with these sickos.

freeagent37 ago

I believe this has been happening for much longer than we can imagine...it just has been brought out in the open for all to see how broken this system is, how each individual must work to renew our world to protect and clean our shared living space here on earth....how ultimately the matrix has been protecting the criminals who made their way to the top of the pyramid. This has to STOP and will soon as the truth keeps spreading to our other sleepy family who are under the spell of this nasty disgusting groups who think they are untouchable.

DeathTooMasons ago

" I am just dumbfounded by the stature of the elite who think they could get away with this shit. "

They do get away with it. They are currently getting away with it. Your knowledge and our typing are things they can endure.

remedy4reality ago

You have become quite the Debbie Downer around here, doing your best to stomp out optimism.

jangles ago

They have all odds on their side. But we have the people!

Votescam ago

Message is still confusing -- but certainly it mentions "pasta."

jangles ago

Given the email is from march and she says "Have to settle for the pasta john gave us at Christmas" . The context is out of place, sure it could refer to dried past that John gave them during Christmas.

Votescam ago

I read what it says -- but not likely, not believable.

When these people mention "pasta" and "pizza" they are speaking in code.

pby1000 ago

This email also mentions pasta during Christmas Eve.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/30613

Here is the Satanic Calendar:

https://www.henrymakow.com/here_is_a_list_of.html

Dressage2 ago

No one would eat fresh pasta three months later. We also know what pasta refers to in the pedo world.

DeathTooMasons ago

Who ask for specific pasta from an earlier time? Bring me those eggs that weren't used for Easter a few weeks ago, and I will make us breakfast. These people are weirdo's either way.

meowski ago

There is other evidence of pedophilia that needs people's attention more than obscure possibly-coded references to food

** oh f***

you're a George Webb disinfo shill. Well duh now it makes sense why you're posting this bullshit about peptides. LMAO F* off you Flipping F'ing shill.

jangles ago

Mr. Software developer, why don't you help here. https://twitter.com/TzipiMazuz/status/807951057254891520

DeathTooMasons ago

Ya think Yer hot shit, don't cha? You will call me, your fatha!

jangles ago

Was that from Tzipi?

meowski ago

Get lost

jangles ago

Then explain to me why John Podesta was so Integral to the development of the millennium copyright law that prevent stegnography from being classified as cryptography.

meowski ago

Blocked

jangles ago

Blocked?

Like you cant get into it?

equineluvr ago

"John Podesta with his tricky words implying that there needs to be discretion."

Since when does a SHAKESPEAREAN QUOTE constitute "tricky words?!"

Amelia_Earnhardt_Jr ago

The trick is that "discretion" was left out of the quote, the writer is asking if rescheduling an event might be a more cautious approach.

If you're not smart enough to follow along, please stay out of the way.

mooteensy ago

@equineluvr is not smart and only seeks to get IN the way of EVERY post on here. Sad!

AssFaceSandwich2 ago

As usual, was just seeding doubt.

jangles ago

Shakespeare also used a form of it: "The better part of valor is discretion" ( 1 Henry IV, 5:4)

equineluvr ago

I just said that. Did you even bother to read what you responded to?

jangles ago

I think you could be correct in saying that the weather was a factor and John Podesta was caring about the safety of his associate who was bringing over someone to 'babysit'. Add the pasta talk and now I question the integrity of the interest for her and direct it back to him trying to cover his ass.

jangles ago

When the key term is removed.

Are_we_sure ago

this is something.

C3+P16+P16, a yeast/peptide cocktail used for treating age and disease.

Where did that come from?

Why do you wonder about pasta being good 3 months later? Dried pasta lasts a long time.

Why are you saying "fresh pasta?" The email doesn't say that.

It's pretty clear what Podesta means by Discretion is the better part of valor. There is bad weather and traffic

So that's our ice encased wiper and taste of the traffic we are in. Suffice to say we will not make it tonight,

So he is asking is it smarter to cancel the get-together rather than have people stuck in bad weather and traffic. That phrase is "said when you believe it is wise to be careful and avoid unnecessary risks."

meowski ago

This person is with the George Webb disinfo brigade posting made up poison to discredit pizzagate

equineluvr ago

C3 and P16 are proteins.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4351123/

"Jangles" was being cryptic in an attempt to appear "intelligent."

jangles ago

@equineluvr Your a fucktard - You must not be too smart, your attempt to make it appear as if I don't know what I was talking about. The paper you referenced clearly notes C3P16 as a peptide. They even note where they purchased the peptide for the study. "The C3 Peptide P16 was purchased from Fischer Scientific, Pittsburg, PA USA."

o study this further, we compared the effect of rIFN-α and exogenous X-DING proteins on X-DING mRNA transcription. Because IFN-α signals through ligation to cell surface receptor [36] we used heat inactivated IFN-α as experimental control, and because X-DING signals through the endocytic process (Table 1) we employed control C3p16 peptide (C3) and X-DING negative IXC fraction [8, 25].

jangles ago

the complex is a peptide

jangles ago

@Are_we_sure my mistake C3+P16+P16 is just sauce J10A1+C3P16P16 is pasta

Are_we_sure ago

I have no idea what any of these means, where are these codes coming from?

jangles ago

Someone dropping clues

Joe10jo ago

Same here! This particular email is old news but this is the first I've heard of the codes.

equineluvr ago

C3 and P16 are proteins.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4351123/

"Jangles" was being cryptic in an attempt to appear "intelligent." Of course, it was a TOTAL FAIL.

jangles ago

@equineluvr Your an obvious fucktard -

You must not be too smart, your attempt to make it appear as if I don't know what I was talking about.

The paper you referenced clearly notes C3P16 as a peptide. They even note where they purchased the peptide for the study. "The C3 Peptide P16 was purchased from Fischer Scientific, Pittsburg, PA USA."

o study this further, we compared the effect of rIFN-α and exogenous X-DING proteins on X-DING mRNA transcription. Because IFN-α signals through ligation to cell surface receptor [36] we used heat inactivated IFN-α as experimental control, and because X-DING signals through the endocytic process (Table 1) we employed control C3p16 peptide (C3) and X-DING negative IXC fraction [8, 25].

jangles ago

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

pizzaequalspedo ago

You are a true believer and will justify 10,000 bizarre food references that don't even make sense in the context that they're speaking in.

Have fun in the afterlife explaining your defense of these filthy animals.

Are_we_sure ago

actually, I'm a skeptic and need evidence. I don't see a bizarre food reference here.

I do see someone quoting words that are not in the email in reference to food.

Tell me what pasta with walnut sauce means to you,

jangles ago

Either a favorite of John Podesta's or a term he uses to describe black market Bio-pharmaceuticals

Are_we_sure ago

It's an actual dish from Genoa which is where Podesta's ancestors are from . They make basil and pine nuts pesto there and salsa di noci, walnut sauce

jangles ago

That is a logical interpretation, also JP tends to talk about 'salsa di noci, walnut sauce' and make it for people. there are pictures of him cooking this dish. This is a fair analysis

jangles ago

UP VOTE

jangles ago

Wow CTR working late tonight.

jangles ago

I deleted original post and Re-titled it -

This comment was from @Dressage2 and was found on the original

I remember this email, but totally missed the comment about babysitting. As for the pasta, I was thinking it was some gourmet pasta in a package like you get in all those goofy Christmas gift baskets and wasuncooked.

Now knowing so much more about this whole crowd I think you are right something that she and Podesta were involved in something far more disgusting.

Dressage2 ago

Thx

carmencita ago

I am sure we wished we could all go back to those simpler times of fancy gourmet packages of Christmas pasta (real noodles).

SoldierofLight ago

I'd like to go back to when a pizza was just a pizza. It used to be my favorite food group.

carmencita ago

I know. But think of how others (who don't know about any of this) will feel. It will all come crashing down at once. What? Pizza? Pasta? Cheese?

SoldierofLight ago

I just posted a question on my Facebook page to my friends, many of whom I've known for years, "How would you react if officials announced that we never landed on the moon. In fact, nobody has." I thought it was a mundane example-- as compared to Pizzagate. But most of my friends lost their shit. And when I changed the question to something like, "What if they came forward with proof that we've been colonizing Mars for decades?" They just couldn't handle it-- liberals, conservatives, people of all ages. It was a good reality check for me because my mind has become so elastic since I researched Pizzagate a year ago and discovered it wasn't just a nutty conspiracy. If more people were willing to research to find the truth, I think they would be better equipped to deal with the truth. Regardless, the truth needs to come out because there are victims out there, and counting, who deserve to be released from their Hell.

carmencita ago

I know exactly what you mean. I told my brother and sister in law about the Child Trafficking and the Clintons, other Dems and Republicans, and they could not handle it. They believed that the CIA could be involved with Drugs but no not the Clintons. I wanted to scream my head off because they have some idea about the 911 truths but that was under the Bush years. They for sure would not believe the Clintons would be involved. I am on here almost every day all day pushing and hoping and commenting and researching in hopes that working together we can bring the truth out to the masses. As you say it must be revealed. But I also know it will not be pretty. They will resort to whatever they have to do to keep it under wraps.

SoldierofLight ago

The most important thing in all this to me, and the thing I have to remember because it gives me tremendous strength, is that unlike the Luciferians, the NWO, and the rest of the dark forces, we have the Creator on our side. We are of the light and love. Darkness can't fill the light, but the light can fill the darkness.

carmencita ago

I cannot wait to let that light fill the world and bring all of this out in the open. I do believe that Go(o)d will overcome the (d)Evil, I noticed a few years ago that God was within the word Good and that Evil was within the word Devil. So I am going to believe Good WILL overpower Evil.