I think it is true.. or do you think it is a coincidence that both democrat pedos (((Jacob Schwartz))) and (((Anthony Weiner))) got caught under Trump and not under Obumma?
and there lies the problem... this immunity and non-disclosure is sickening. They want the public to fight for the politicians and go to war for them at the drop of a word, but apparently aren't fit enough to get the real truth from full disclosure of all issues.
The whole point is, because the contents of the laptop are AWOL, we can't know either way what they contain.....clearly you don't have a problem with that and think everything is legit .....but it would be easy enough to clear the whole matter up for those of us less trusting of these people....if you know anything of the history of institutional abuse, it's amazing how often evidence is "lost"
As they are so fond of telling us to justify intrusion into our privacy...."if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear"
but it would be easy enough to clear the whole matter up for those of us less trusting of these people.
That's not the standard whatsoever. What about the people who that wouldn't clear anything up for who would just claim the evidence was fake? What about the insane people? Should that be the standard.
The whole point is, because the contents of the laptop are AWOL,
No they are not. The contents of the laptop were examined in two separate legal cases. You don't get see all my stuff, even if I commit a crime. You only get to see the stuff that is presented as evidence in a court of law. You don't get to determine what is AWOL.
You realize essentially what you are arguing for is a system where a person's enemies can plant a whole bunch of fake stories in ideological news site ( which is exactly what happened) and then use these lies to justify a deeper and wholesale invasion of privacy based on the principle of "clearing the whole matter up."
As they are so fond of telling us to justify intrusion into our privacy...."if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear"
WTF? You are coming out on the side of BIG TIME invasion of privacy in this case. Can you not see this?
You are basically arguing for a standard on the basis of a deliberate deception campaign that lied to you. The idea is that NYPD was about to make a bunch of arrests based on Wiener's laptop is false and several of the claimed facts that this story rests upon (NYPD got the laptop first) are shown to be false.
No they are not. The contents of the laptop were examined in two separate legal cases.
You don't get see all my stuff, even if I commit a crime.
You only get to see the stuff that is presented as evidence in a court of law. You don't get to determine what is AWOL.
You are not an official, are you? Many of these officials are corrupted from polticians, to judges and government employees who work on their teams. They are not allowed to be free from the public eye because they work for the public. This is exactly how pedo crime was swept under the rug in the Franklin case, Project Flicker, the Dutroux case and many other cases including Weiner and Clinton.
RweSure:
You realize essentially what you are arguing for is a system where a person's enemies can plant a whole bunch of fake stories in ideological news site ( which is exactly what happened) and then use these lies to justify a deeper and wholesale invasion of privacy based on the principle of "clearing the whole matter up."
Please say you're not on the Russia-did-it band train.
If full open disclosure was promoted within the political and government official system the scenario you paint would be nipped much easier. The problem is that they not only have full privacy, but in many cases they have full immunity, or lax consequences. It's due to this lack of disclosure that such scenarios that you present are easier to put in place.
For example, Project Flicker. People in higher ranks became implicated and exposed. It ended up being shut down on ridiculous claims that there wasn't enough funding, or at least that was one story that was used.
NO!
As a result it's been hidden to this day.
Actually, the public should protest and demand the Project Flicker Senator Grassley investigation be re-opened under FULL disclosure so none of the roaches can hide.
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quantokitty ago
I only wish this was true. It certainly doesn't appear it is, but then our lousy fake news wouldn't be reporting this, would they?
GrDec ago
I think it is true.. or do you think it is a coincidence that both democrat pedos (((Jacob Schwartz))) and (((Anthony Weiner))) got caught under Trump and not under Obumma?
quantokitty ago
Weiner was caught last year ... before the election.
GrDec ago
Yes, but he was convicted under Trump.
The Trump admin worked out his plea deal and his jail term.
He would have never served jail under Obumma.
quantokitty ago
True .... I'd love to know what else is on that computer ...
shoosh ago
and there lies the problem... this immunity and non-disclosure is sickening. They want the public to fight for the politicians and go to war for them at the drop of a word, but apparently aren't fit enough to get the real truth from full disclosure of all issues.
RweSure ago
what non-disclosure? what you are you talking about? What is the legal basis for the disclosure you are thinking of?
If you think the Weiner laptop was jammed with evidence of other crimes, you've been lied to.
madhatter67 ago
The whole point is, because the contents of the laptop are AWOL, we can't know either way what they contain.....clearly you don't have a problem with that and think everything is legit .....but it would be easy enough to clear the whole matter up for those of us less trusting of these people....if you know anything of the history of institutional abuse, it's amazing how often evidence is "lost"
As they are so fond of telling us to justify intrusion into our privacy...."if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear"
RweSure ago
That's not the standard whatsoever. What about the people who that wouldn't clear anything up for who would just claim the evidence was fake? What about the insane people? Should that be the standard.
No they are not. The contents of the laptop were examined in two separate legal cases. You don't get see all my stuff, even if I commit a crime. You only get to see the stuff that is presented as evidence in a court of law. You don't get to determine what is AWOL.
You realize essentially what you are arguing for is a system where a person's enemies can plant a whole bunch of fake stories in ideological news site ( which is exactly what happened) and then use these lies to justify a deeper and wholesale invasion of privacy based on the principle of "clearing the whole matter up."
WTF? You are coming out on the side of BIG TIME invasion of privacy in this case. Can you not see this?
You are basically arguing for a standard on the basis of a deliberate deception campaign that lied to you. The idea is that NYPD was about to make a bunch of arrests based on Wiener's laptop is false and several of the claimed facts that this story rests upon (NYPD got the laptop first) are shown to be false.
madhatter67 ago
The big time invasion of privacy already happened....all I'm saying is what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander
But we all know it's one set of rules for us and another for them
shoosh ago
@RweSure @madhatter67
RweSure
You are not an official, are you? Many of these officials are corrupted from polticians, to judges and government employees who work on their teams. They are not allowed to be free from the public eye because they work for the public. This is exactly how pedo crime was swept under the rug in the Franklin case, Project Flicker, the Dutroux case and many other cases including Weiner and Clinton.
RweSure:
Please say you're not on the Russia-did-it band train.
If full open disclosure was promoted within the political and government official system the scenario you paint would be nipped much easier. The problem is that they not only have full privacy, but in many cases they have full immunity, or lax consequences. It's due to this lack of disclosure that such scenarios that you present are easier to put in place.
For example, Project Flicker. People in higher ranks became implicated and exposed. It ended up being shut down on ridiculous claims that there wasn't enough funding, or at least that was one story that was used. NO! As a result it's been hidden to this day. Actually, the public should protest and demand the Project Flicker Senator Grassley investigation be re-opened under FULL disclosure so none of the roaches can hide.