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NoBS ago

The fact that Deep State is actively trying to silence George and the citizen investigators speaks volumes. Then we have you posting in desperation. Interesting.

DarkMath ago

"The fact that Deep State is actively trying to silence George and the citizen investigators speaks volumes."

BINGO!

Thank you. People are finally catching on. George Webb is getting hit really really hard. And that's really really strange because he's been posting videos since early LAST FALL and only know are shills coming out of the woodwork to discredit him.

George Webb is catching flak because he's over the target.

The other thing is the OP @V____Z repeatedly refuses to provide her opinion on Andrew SlowWalker McCabe. She won't even type his name. That's so telling. I must have asked her 10 times what her plan was for stopping Andrew McCabe's Hail Mary attempt to use Guccifer 2.0 to frame Trump.

She's quiet as a church mouse every time. It's as if Andrew McCabe doesn't exist.

:-D

HolyMoly0 ago

Do you have an opinion of what happened between Webb, Goodman and Defango?

DarkMath ago

"Webb, Goodman and Defango?"

I think everyone's really frustrated with each other at this point. Waking up to the reality the U.S. Government is run by psychopaths tends to shorten one's fuse.

:-D

HolyMoly0 ago

What I mean is, do you have a response to Defango's claims? Cause they're not talking about it very clearly, if at all. And they're refusing to speak to him.

DarkMath ago

No. And actually I like Defango when he's chasing Cicada puzzles. He's good at that and very entertaining. However his chronic marijuana use precludes me from listening to anything he says regarding the Deep State or the W.A.S.P. Mafia over in Langley Virginia.

HolyMoly0 ago

Ok, well he's seemed pretty credible to me so far. As long as he's laying out his case so clearly, and getting support from The Rabbit and Intel Valor, and getting such an incoherent/ignorant response from Webb/Goodman, I'm gonna lean towards trusting his story.

I've said this to you before, but I recommend watching the videos he did right after the debacle happened.

DarkMath ago

"I've said this to you before"

Can you send me the link to that video? And please include the exact minute mark of what you're talking about so I don't have to look for it.

Thank you.

HolyMoly0 ago

Start at 3:07. I think the rest of that video is just him going through Goodman's accusations and dismantling them. He did a bunch more videos, but this one's pretty good, if I remember correctly.

Here's him talking about it with The Rabbit. Start at 18:10.

DarkMath ago

"I think the rest of that video is just him going through Goodman's accusations and dismantling them."

It was neither. And the fact you couldn't write a quick blurb about what Defango's argument is makes me suspicious.

How about you respond to this comment with a brief review of what the issue is.

HolyMoly0 ago

You didn't ask for a blurb. Here's what happened, roughly.

Webb and Goodman get a file from Trish, who got the file from the Rabbit. They get in contact with Defango, who helps them put it out. Problem is, Trish, Webb and Goodman uploaded a file that has a timestamp that's 2 hours later than the original file, and it's also a larger file size. Defango reveals this when he uploads his own file (timestamped 2 hrs earlier).

Defango says they added something to the original files (hence the 2 hr time difference), and also broke the chain of custody when they moved them from the flash drive (given to Trish by Rabbit) to Trish's laptop, thereby compromising the integrity of the files. This is also confirmed by The Rabbit himself, and Intel Valor, who had been helping them as well.

Defango claims to know this because they were old files, which he'd happened to have in his possession before Trish ever got them from The Rabbit.

The rest of it, you'll just have to go through the video to understand. Unfortunately it's kind of convoluted. But the real telling thing is that they refuse to talk to Defango about it now, and don't seem to ever really address his most significant points.

DarkMath ago

"Unfortunately it's kind convoluted."

Yes, very. I work in the the IT field and this type of stuff happens all the time. The only important thing is finding the difference between the two files. That's easily done with tools like WinMerge and the like. It takes about 2 minutes and you'll find out which files are different.

I gather Defango was concerned George Webb and Mossad added some secret sauce to the files because the file they uploaded with 2 hours different. That could happen or someone could have changed the date and time of the files.

This seems like a tempest in a tea pot and a waste of time.

HolyMoly0 ago

I suggest watching it. I didn't find it to be a waste of time. Defango goes into detail, showing the differences between the files, addressing Goodman's accusations about what Defango was telling them about the different files (he refutes them by showing their chat logs), stuff like that.

DarkMath ago

"showing the differences between the files"

Can you respond briefly with what those differences are?

HolyMoly0 ago

There's a bunch of zips in the Trish files. He removes them, and then both sets of files turn out to be the same size.

DarkMath ago

"There's a bunch of zips"

What was in those zip files?

HolyMoly0 ago

I don't remember exactly. And I'm not IT, so I won't be good at figuring it out. In this interview, Defango lays out the story pretty clearly. I'm pretty sure he explains the zips. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2ZMxb1K0WQ&t=1593s

Edit: 3:00

DarkMath ago

"I'm pretty sure he explains the zips."

So you are suspicious of George Webb possibly adding files that weren't in the original but you don't know what those files are.

If you don't even know what those files are then why are you suspicious? And I'm talking to YOU not Defango. Why are YOU suspicious of something you can even describe to me here in a comment?

Something's not right. You sound like a shill and you're just parroting bullet points on a piece of paper.

:-D

HolyMoly0 ago

I'm not IT, as I said. It would be useless to argue with me about it. Go to the 3 min. mark for the story. He gets to the file differences at around 4:00. Why don't you tell me what's wrong with what he (an actual IT guy) says. Be better than Webb and Goodman. Ease my mind please.

DarkMath ago

"Go to the 3 min."

I did. There's nothing of any consequence. The two different uploads are about 99.9% the same. Any difference is meaningless.

You're obviously a shill sent here to push some meaningless story about the time stamp on a zip file. That's pathetic.

HolyMoly0 ago

Get outta here with the shill accusations. Seriously. I've been defending these guys until now. If you really care, then please do what Webb and Goodman haven't done. Go through Defango's video (the first one I linked)--and maybe go through the others--and tell all of us what you think happened. Cause there is zero explanation from Webb and Goodman. That's what makes me suspicious.

DarkMath ago

"Go through Defango's video"

I did. He's making a mountain out of a molehill. And again your story is absurd. You feel strongly something's wrong but you can't even describe what is wrong.

O_O

HolyMoly0 ago

And I did describe what's wrong: they have no response. Neither do you, it seems.

HolyMoly0 ago

And you haven't described jack shit, my friend.

DarkMath ago

That's correct! I stand convicted!

When I see jack shit I feel no need to describe it.

:-D

HolyMoly0 ago

Go to 14:00 in this video. Pay attention to where Defango proves that Goodman was lying about their interaction. Then tell me if, and why, you still trust Webb and Goodman, even though they lied about that. Cause that is not nothing.

I'm literally just trying to help.

And don't respond with snark, or accuse me of being a shill. It is extremely off-putting.

If you have no response, then I officially give up on you.

DarkMath ago

I went to 14:00 and see more of the same mountain out of a molehill. Defango is getting paranoid about a 2 hour time difference in the file's time stamps. Jason Goodman is in New York and Defango is out West somewhere like Arizona or California. That could easily explain that.

The other thing is Defango smokes a lot of weed. Weed can make you a little paranoid and obsessive about completely meaningless shit. It's kind of a problem for Defango. He got into a similar dust up with MathEasySolutions about how easily MathEasy solved one of the Cicada puzzles. Defango couldn't believe he could do it in 15 minutes without a super computer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-hDR-P29l4

So MathEasy went over the steps which are probably similar to problems a Math major would get in college. The math wasn't that tough. Mountain out of a molehill.

HolyMoly0 ago

I don't know how much you were paying attention when this happened, but it was Jason that initially got paranoid. Defango uploaded that 7z he shows in their chat, and Jason then started screaming about Defango spoofing the Seth Rich files and claiming that Defango never gave them that 7z--which is exactly what Defango demonstrates he did, in fact, give them.

DarkMath ago

Whatever. This being the world's first totally online civil war I would chalk it up to the "Fog of War".

HolyMoly0 ago

Also, the time zone difference doesn't seem to explain it. I've never had that happen with a file from a different time zone. It always corrects for my time. Plus, Defango was in CA when this happened. That's a 3 hour difference, not 2 hours. I think the fact that the .zip was larger than the .7z explains it.

As long as Goodman doesn't admit he was wrong, and ignores Defango's calls, I'm gonna be extra skeptical about Crowdsource the Truth.

DarkMath ago

"I'm gonna be extra skeptical about Crowdsource the Truth."

Yep, being skeptical is a great policy around here. I'm not even sure if I'd trust my own mother at this point.