Hi guys, I hope this doesn't get deleted. I'd rather not disclose my identity, but I have been keeping an eye on this Voat since around maybe December nearly every day. I care deeply about this subject and I just wanted to give some constructive criticism because I don't want to see this die. There are some amazing and hard-working people on here and I don't want your work to have a bad image when (or if for that matter) this stuff really starts boiling over to the mainstream. I am making this post for the sake of this movement's legitimacy and integrity.
First and foremost, I believe PG has evolved. This is obviously no longer just about CPP and Podesta's emails. In fact, one could even argue that the original conspiracy was so overwhelmingly "debunked" by MSM because it was all a distraction to make us all look like kooky conspiracy theorists who had no credibility. Nobody truly knows at this point, but I think it is very important that we all focus on FACTS. As a reader, I roll my eyes every time I see a post about the fatherhood video or Miley Cyrus in a pizza outfit. I've been close to leaving this page entirely because of things like this. However, we all saw how the theory blatantly tapped a nerve, and sex trafficking is still very well a part of this. I do think the Pizzagate name is a good one because it is the center of so many people, for lack of a better term, swallowing the red pill. There are dark secrets in the highest levels of government. PG merely opened the doors. The most telling sign that we were onto something was seeing Podesta and Hillary aggressively tweeting, Podesta himself even doing that ludicrous interview.
Sources are important. Please refrain from using sources which are not trustworthy. A post loses all credibility when the source material has articles about inter-dimensional lizards or whatever other nonsense. I know it's difficult to find a good source when so much media seems to be completely controlled, but if I could make a simple suggestion, try not to just post an article with no context. It is almost always entirely useless. And let's talk about the elephant in the room...anons and "whistleblowers." We need to be more careful about who we choose to represent our movement. I really don't want to name names here, but I think you all get the picture. Don't allow the "fake news" narrative to become reality.
Lastly (and this is certainly more of a personal opinion), leave the obvious troll/shill posts up for everyone to see. You know, the "PG Iz Retarded" and other obvious BS. For one, it's quite amusing. But these accounts are highly suspicious. Remember how I said the base PG conspiracy could be a distraction to discredit the movement? Doesn't it seem awfully odd how fixated these accounts seem to be on the very first claims made, rather than the mountains of evidence which have come to light in the last six months? I often see these accounts say something along the lines of "Let me know when Podesta and Hillary are arrested for running a satanic child sex ring in the basement of a pizzeria." This is extremely odd. I think getting to the bottom of these troll accounts could give us all some insight as to the bigger picture of Pizzagate.
I hope my points were clear. There are some wonderful people on here doing God's work. However, this is going to be a tricky battle. Stay headstrong and together we can change the world. Peace and love.
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DeathTooMasons ago
"one could even argue that the original conspiracy was so overwhelmingly "debunked" by MSM because it was all a distraction to make us all look like kooky conspiracy theorists who had no credibility."
Thumbs down. It was not debunked. We weren't made to look bad. The evidence was everywhere connectiong to the same topic. Seems you tried to slip that in there but support everything else. Alefantis, Podesta, Clinton,CIA are the center of the traficking and their personal material led us to this conclusion. From Silsby to Majestic Ape shows in the basement with endless pedo obsession, nobody was made to look crazy for exposing these perpetual links. Your have the same disinfo speak as other fake truthers, all of them saying "I'm not saying pedo stuff isn't going on, it's real, but the storyling is BS and a trap to make us look bad". All your polite don't get me wrong preemptive defense won't erase that you are using tired shill tactics. You may not be one, but you type like one. You just had a need to say that and make a thread? Why? Feel better?
The storyline has been accurately depicted, and none of us look crazy for it.
DonKeyhote ago
"You guys are possibly risking your asses and doing important work that i follow daily, though its not important enough for me to so more than observe, i have some advice..."
HelloEverybody ago
If I were capable of helping the cause I would. I made an account to give constructive criticism. To be completely honest, I was sort of scared initially because I didn't want my information getting released. But considering the NSA and CIA probably have all my info anyway I changed my mind. I'm not good at computer hacking is all. I just wanted to help how I could. Sorry if you or others think I'm wasting my time.
neverobey ago
rather feel sorry for wasting OUR time.
je-sui-pepe ago
It's easy to come here, see the updates, and walk away.. but for those of us who have been here mired in it... we have all watched the videos, heard the testimonies of the abused, listened to the multitudes of other researchers who have been harassed and bullied and possibly even murdered. It has led down many paths and we have all been skeptical of some theories and or other research but for you to even belittle some theories such as other beings, lizard people as you call them, but these are some of the avenues where this research has led... just shows that you are a casual observer and not really watching or reading all of this research nor doing your own. I can just as easily believe in REPTILIANS now as much as anything else because a year ago I would have never believed any of this darkness existed. Do not belittle any theories when you aren't willing to do the footwork. We go where it takes us and I don't care what you believe or don't believe nor do I care for your advice. I only care about the truth and stopping the evil that had been revealed and is still being discovered.
millennial_vulcan ago
Noone asked for your constructive criticism thank you. Keep your nose out.