I think there is something to what you are saying. At the beginning I listened to a few of his videos, but after a while I wondered why he did not get a bullet to the back of his head? Or a heart attack? Or his car did not crash into a building somewhere. If others dared say what he has said there is NO way they would be walking this earth. This is what is seriously bothering me.
Webb reminds me of Mark Lane in the JFK assassination. You trust him initially because his views align with yours, but upon further consideration it seems like he's leading you away from the pure truth. In 'Rush to Judgement' Mark Lane flushed out important witnesses, most of whom met their demise before the Warren Commission was even formed.
Bingo. There are many sides to the JFK story and many wanted us to be led down another path. When will the true story ever be told? I have twice (although I hardly ever watch Webb or any other YT Idols) caught him repeating exactly what we investigated and discovered the day before he releases his video. Just Sayin"
Actually, the "true story" of the JFK coup on our president and our "people's" government was being told the very night of the assassination as people in DC gathered at events that had been planned long before and whispered the names of the assassins.
Presumably many of them turned information over to attorneys as more than 100 attorneys in DC are said to have expired very soon after the coup.
Many people still ask that question because they believe the disinfo spread by the plotters suggesting that "we'll never know who killed JFK."
However, very quickly, in just a few books -- and with a movie which was frequently shown on TV called "Executive Action," starring Burt Landcaster, Robert Ryan* -- the public was made aware of those who were involved.
Since then, of course, Madelaine Brown - one of LBJ's mistresses -- has also given us a list of the names involved.
Many were present at the home of Clint Murchinson the evening before the assassination at a private meeting, after which LBJ informed her that . . .
"“After tomorrow, those goddamn Kennedys will never embarrass me again. That’s no threat. That’s a promise.”<
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Duncan_Brown
You can also find the Madelaine Brown interviews on YouTube.**
See: High Treason I and II, by Livingstone
See: Crossfire by Jim Marrs
and the "JFK" movie which reveals the essentials of the coup.
These materials are likely available at your library or a library near you.
ALSO keep in mind what Detective Rothstein NYPD has told us about three major investigations over 50 years of prostitution and pedophile rings by the NYPD which were stopped each time when names of higher ups began to be linked to the crimes. Also that one of those investigations had gone as far as a State investigation in Albany where Hearings were being held before it too was stopped.
Note that near the end of the video, Rothstein also points to the lack of reporting on our military's involvement in this trafficking.
Additionally of interest: --
Detective Rothstein makes clear that WATERGATE was also not only about prostitution rings being run by the Democratic Party, but also about pedophile rings. And that a "book" recording this information was at the DNC/Watergate building which seems to be one cause for the break in
They used the title "Executive Action" to make a later movie having nothing to do with assassination of JFK.
** Partial list of names of those attending the private meeting at Clint Murchinson's the evening before the JFK assassination ....
Quote -- Here's the list of those at the meeting the night before the assassination --
Includes, Nixon and Hoover and John Connolly
Clint Murchinson
Syd Richardson
LBJ
Brown Brothers
George W. Owens
Joe Campisi
John McCloy
Malcolm Wallace
John Currington
Cliff Carter
Amin G. Carter
Jack Ruby
Carlos Marcellos
Joe Sivillo
Larry Campbell
Larry Curtis
Currington
Earl Cabell - Mayor Dallas
Bill Decker -- Sheriff of Dallas
Ted? Thornton
W. O. Bankston
Clint Peoples
UNQUOTE --
May have missed a name or two --
Also, Helen Thomas (Journalist) had also been present at the earlier affair which Madelaine Brown was also attending at the home of Clinton Murchinson and she was still there as the men began to arrive at Murchinson's home for the private meeting. The morning after the JFK assassination she filed an affidavit listing the names of the men who were present that evening.
Thank you for the most powerful message and information. I read it to my husband and though we have not believed the lies for many years, I have also never believed the story about Jack Ruby, just some bar owner going mad and killing Oswald. Amazing about LBJ. I had heard about it before, but there were other stories as well. Which one do you believe. That one makes much sense. Helen Thomas being included too is amazing, especially that she filed the affidavit and was allowed to live all those years later.
Thank you --
Jack Ruby had been involved very early on with Nixon and HUAC going back to McCarthy Era.
Will try to find a link for that --
Basically, he was Mafia, but had been around a long time in his involvement with these people
and as you look at it overall (as Mae Brussel made clear and many others now) we see Nazi
connections to the coup. (See Operation Mockingbird, Paperclip, Gladio and MKULTRA if you're
not familiar with these CIA programs.)
Jack Ruby tried to get info out to the public in every way possible to make this Nazi involvement known.
Including letters from prison making these accusations. Also makes clear he was forced to kill Oswald
by threats to his lives of his sister and brother. This shows again the CIA/Mafia involvement --
organized crime exists at the pleasure of Elites as they need them and a ready supply of thugs.
Ruby also involved with drugs and prostitution.
LBJ according to Billie Sol Estes had something like 18 murders done for him -- his main personal
murderer was Malcolm Wallace whose fingerprints were found on 6th floor/cardboard boxes.
LBJ was severely mentally disturbed as he himself relates -- had to keep himself on tight leash.
Near the end, they had to pay a psychiatrist $1 million with gag order to hear his confessions regularly.
(Pretty much same story as Nixon -- there's no way, imo, to deal in all this death and destruction and not be insane
or become insane.)
Cover up which exists to hide LBJ's involvement and criminal activities continues on even now -- very powerful.
Probably wherever Thomas filed the affidavit it never saw light of day.
Which is why LBJ was looking to hide records for 75 years so they could all presumably be destroyed by then.
Fortunately, reporters immediately got to the people who were trying to alert us to this rising fascism in US and
we know who were involved and how it was done. And imagine those who actually did it are long dead.
You can get much of this info on YouTube
but if you hit your library you'll find wonderful early on books like High Treason I and II by Livingstone.
Most libraries still have them!
Crossfire by Jim Marrs and would always rec his books as he too goes on into the secret societies and rituals in
other newer books. Right now story about SUGAR and CANCER is in one of his books -- aha -- !!
It's Rise of the Fourth Reich .... an excellent book.
Also control of medical system by Rockefellers discussed here recently.
Good luck -- and what you do know ... keep on tellin' it -- :)
Thank you so much for the Enlightenment. I have just written those books down and will certainly be looking into them. I have a long list here next to me, but have been so very tied up with the SR investigation. I believe that one big reason they wanted Kennedy out of the way was the pulling out of troops from Vietnam. LBJ was more than happy to comply, whatever his reason, being either he believed in it, or agreed to do it to stay alive. I am sure there are more reasons they wanted JFK out of the way, such as his hatred for "secret societies". JFK- "I will splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the wind."
The point about those books is they were early books which shows how long
the truth has been known. And they are excellent books.
Agree re VN -- LBJ was also early involved with NASA and "space" programs,
talking about Moon as "highest hill."
There's pretty much no way to deny that LBJ was one of the main masterminds of
the JFK assassination. See: LBJ: Mastermind of the JFK assassination/Philip Nelson
but .... LBJ was the first suspect and I don't think the nation ever moved away from that suspicion.
LBJ/Dulles -- but presume you saw the list of names ... ?
It also couldn't have been done without the WH/President supporting the cover up which all of our
presidents have done since then.
:)
Yes, I am awful at finding things, but in the last few days I read on here that there will be a release of some of the Secrets about the JFK Assassination and that PBS will be doing a Special.
PBS has pretty much been corporate owned for decades now --
Including Koch Bros./John Birch Society buying in, as well.
Documents that still exist have probably been altered or destroyed or disappeared.
1992 JFK Classified Records Act - John Tunheim headed it up -- Plus 4 panel members\
Unanimously concluded that ...
"Oswald was employed by the CIA working on high level assignments and
probably also for the FBI."
Can't prove that to you because the History/Discovery Channel program was confiscated.
At the end of the one hour program, Tunnheim repeats this conclusion TWICE and the TEXT
appears below on the screen.
Well, the fact that the program was confiscated, should tell us something. I somewhat guessed the special would be tailor made to their convenience. Not something we were hoping to hear. It's so sad that there is not much that will shock us anymore.
The program appeared on HistoryDiscovery Channel when it was calling itself "the network for the new Millennia."
It appeared for about a month or more and using a new TV recorder I began filming it after seeing it a few times and recognizing it's value.
At the time of the JFK assassination, all of our journalists/reporters began asking for Oswald's work records, his income tax returns, W-2 forms.
They were always denied. However, they would have been in the Classified records.
While I was recording the program-- just before the end of the program where Tunnheim repeats
their unanimous conclusion -- my doorbell rang and since I had stopped recording to eliminate an
ad, I didn't get the last part which was the most essential part of the program.
Since it had been appearing fairly regularly, I wasn't concerned. However, after maybe one
more appearance the program disappeared. A while later, what appeared to be a rebuttal to
info in that program appeared and it was very poorly done and rather ridiculous. It played
maybe three times and then that disappeared as well.
Never saw the original documentary again and later heard that Jimmy Carter had alerted
the LBJ family and Bill Moyers and former Pres. Jerry Ford.
Evidently all copies of the documentary were taken from the History/Discovery channel and
it has never turned up on YouTube.
I've also read that John Tunnheim did report the findings of the Panel to a Congressional Panel
and that this was about the time of the Lewinsky scandal and the Clinton impeachment.
Presumably the report and its findings were buried -- the actual report, that is.
That must have been infuriating. I am sure you have tried every which way to obtain the lost part of the program. I have long had admiration for Jimmy Carter, but recently my feelings have changed about him and a few others. Did Tunnheim write a book? I can think of no other solution, for the Congressional Panel and the findings, surely as you say, will never be released as well.
I think that at the time the program was pulled -- where he very clearly put himself in
danger in order to get the info out -- that he was probably very seriously threatened at the same time
which usually also includes threat to the family - children.
When I saw Fetzer's book on the obvious EDITING of the Zapruder film I realized that he wasn't
aware of the info and I wrote him a note. He called me and I made clear that the tape I had didn't
have the last bit of info (unfortunate that they did it that way) ... and I sent it to him.
Think he knew Tunnheim, but again -- all it proves is that there was a program no longer seen with
a missing ending. And unless it appears on YouTube at some point, then that effort is pretty much over.
The last part of the series of "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" ... "The Guilty Men" ... did finally show up
on YouTube. But YouTube now has a new owner and things are changing there.
I'm sure other people saw it and we may find out one day that someone else recorded it.
Let's hope that Tunheim manages to stay alive and some day soon the world will be safer for truth.
Wow. What a story. I wonder, have you tried on Ebay? A lot of time people sell things without knowing what they have or how important it even is. Like kids selling their now deceased parents belongings? I just checked and there are quite a few 2 disc sets avail. but I noticed one with 3 discs, maybe that could be the full set? IDK, I agree that sometime the truth will come out.
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carmencita ago
I think there is something to what you are saying. At the beginning I listened to a few of his videos, but after a while I wondered why he did not get a bullet to the back of his head? Or a heart attack? Or his car did not crash into a building somewhere. If others dared say what he has said there is NO way they would be walking this earth. This is what is seriously bothering me.
remedy4reality ago
Webb reminds me of Mark Lane in the JFK assassination. You trust him initially because his views align with yours, but upon further consideration it seems like he's leading you away from the pure truth. In 'Rush to Judgement' Mark Lane flushed out important witnesses, most of whom met their demise before the Warren Commission was even formed.
carmencita ago
Bingo. There are many sides to the JFK story and many wanted us to be led down another path. When will the true story ever be told? I have twice (although I hardly ever watch Webb or any other YT Idols) caught him repeating exactly what we investigated and discovered the day before he releases his video. Just Sayin"
Votescam ago
Actually, the "true story" of the JFK coup on our president and our "people's" government was being told the very night of the assassination as people in DC gathered at events that had been planned long before and whispered the names of the assassins.
Presumably many of them turned information over to attorneys as more than 100 attorneys in DC are said to have expired very soon after the coup.
Many people still ask that question because they believe the disinfo spread by the plotters suggesting that "we'll never know who killed JFK."
However, very quickly, in just a few books -- and with a movie which was frequently shown on TV called "Executive Action," starring Burt Landcaster, Robert Ryan* -- the public was made aware of those who were involved.
Since then, of course, Madelaine Brown - one of LBJ's mistresses -- has also given us a list of the names involved. Many were present at the home of Clint Murchinson the evening before the assassination at a private meeting, after which LBJ informed her that . . .
See: High Treason I and II, by Livingstone See: Crossfire by Jim Marrs and the "JFK" movie which reveals the essentials of the coup. These materials are likely available at your library or a library near you.
ALSO keep in mind what Detective Rothstein NYPD has told us about three major investigations over 50 years of prostitution and pedophile rings by the NYPD which were stopped each time when names of higher ups began to be linked to the crimes. Also that one of those investigations had gone as far as a State investigation in Albany where Hearings were being held before it too was stopped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cnT5amf6Ys
Note that near the end of the video, Rothstein also points to the lack of reporting on our military's involvement in this trafficking.
Additionally of interest: --
Detective Rothstein makes clear that WATERGATE was also not only about prostitution rings being run by the Democratic Party, but also about pedophile rings. And that a "book" recording this information was at the DNC/Watergate building which seems to be one cause for the break in
Too ...
LBJ and Bobby Bakker were running prostitution rings in order to entrap members of Congress.
Hotel rooms were set up where women of the night/day were provided to lure members of Congress. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/11/sex-in-the-senate-bobby-baker-99530_Page2.html#.WSy5JbQ2y0E
** Partial list of names of those attending the private meeting at Clint Murchinson's the evening before the JFK assassination ....
Quote -- Here's the list of those at the meeting the night before the assassination -- Includes, Nixon and Hoover and John Connolly
Clint Murchinson
Syd Richardson
LBJ
Brown Brothers
George W. Owens
Joe Campisi
John McCloy
Malcolm Wallace
John Currington
Cliff Carter
Amin G. Carter
Jack Ruby
Carlos Marcellos
Joe Sivillo
Larry Campbell
Larry Curtis
Currington
Earl Cabell - Mayor Dallas
Bill Decker -- Sheriff of Dallas
Ted? Thornton
W. O. Bankston
Clint Peoples
UNQUOTE --
May have missed a name or two --
Also, Helen Thomas (Journalist) had also been present at the earlier affair which Madelaine Brown was also attending at the home of Clinton Murchinson and she was still there as the men began to arrive at Murchinson's home for the private meeting. The morning after the JFK assassination she filed an affidavit listing the names of the men who were present that evening.
carmencita ago
Thank you for the most powerful message and information. I read it to my husband and though we have not believed the lies for many years, I have also never believed the story about Jack Ruby, just some bar owner going mad and killing Oswald. Amazing about LBJ. I had heard about it before, but there were other stories as well. Which one do you believe. That one makes much sense. Helen Thomas being included too is amazing, especially that she filed the affidavit and was allowed to live all those years later.
Votescam ago
Thank you -- Jack Ruby had been involved very early on with Nixon and HUAC going back to McCarthy Era. Will try to find a link for that -- Basically, he was Mafia, but had been around a long time in his involvement with these people and as you look at it overall (as Mae Brussel made clear and many others now) we see Nazi connections to the coup. (See Operation Mockingbird, Paperclip, Gladio and MKULTRA if you're not familiar with these CIA programs.) Jack Ruby tried to get info out to the public in every way possible to make this Nazi involvement known. Including letters from prison making these accusations. Also makes clear he was forced to kill Oswald by threats to his lives of his sister and brother. This shows again the CIA/Mafia involvement -- organized crime exists at the pleasure of Elites as they need them and a ready supply of thugs. Ruby also involved with drugs and prostitution. LBJ according to Billie Sol Estes had something like 18 murders done for him -- his main personal murderer was Malcolm Wallace whose fingerprints were found on 6th floor/cardboard boxes. LBJ was severely mentally disturbed as he himself relates -- had to keep himself on tight leash. Near the end, they had to pay a psychiatrist $1 million with gag order to hear his confessions regularly. (Pretty much same story as Nixon -- there's no way, imo, to deal in all this death and destruction and not be insane or become insane.) Cover up which exists to hide LBJ's involvement and criminal activities continues on even now -- very powerful. Probably wherever Thomas filed the affidavit it never saw light of day. Which is why LBJ was looking to hide records for 75 years so they could all presumably be destroyed by then. Fortunately, reporters immediately got to the people who were trying to alert us to this rising fascism in US and we know who were involved and how it was done. And imagine those who actually did it are long dead.
You can get much of this info on YouTube but if you hit your library you'll find wonderful early on books like High Treason I and II by Livingstone. Most libraries still have them! Crossfire by Jim Marrs and would always rec his books as he too goes on into the secret societies and rituals in other newer books. Right now story about SUGAR and CANCER is in one of his books -- aha -- !! It's Rise of the Fourth Reich .... an excellent book. Also control of medical system by Rockefellers discussed here recently.
Good luck -- and what you do know ... keep on tellin' it -- :)
carmencita ago
Thank you so much for the Enlightenment. I have just written those books down and will certainly be looking into them. I have a long list here next to me, but have been so very tied up with the SR investigation. I believe that one big reason they wanted Kennedy out of the way was the pulling out of troops from Vietnam. LBJ was more than happy to comply, whatever his reason, being either he believed in it, or agreed to do it to stay alive. I am sure there are more reasons they wanted JFK out of the way, such as his hatred for "secret societies". JFK- "I will splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the wind."
Votescam ago
The point about those books is they were early books which shows how long the truth has been known. And they are excellent books. Agree re VN -- LBJ was also early involved with NASA and "space" programs, talking about Moon as "highest hill."
There's pretty much no way to deny that LBJ was one of the main masterminds of the JFK assassination. See: LBJ: Mastermind of the JFK assassination/Philip Nelson but .... LBJ was the first suspect and I don't think the nation ever moved away from that suspicion. LBJ/Dulles -- but presume you saw the list of names ... ? It also couldn't have been done without the WH/President supporting the cover up which all of our presidents have done since then. :)
carmencita ago
I am sure even though it has not been proven, it is in the minds of many. We shall see when that PBS report comes out.
Votescam ago
PBS report?
carmencita ago
Yes, I am awful at finding things, but in the last few days I read on here that there will be a release of some of the Secrets about the JFK Assassination and that PBS will be doing a Special.
Votescam ago
PBS has pretty much been corporate owned for decades now -- Including Koch Bros./John Birch Society buying in, as well.
Documents that still exist have probably been altered or destroyed or disappeared.
1992 JFK Classified Records Act - John Tunheim headed it up -- Plus 4 panel members\ Unanimously concluded that ...
"Oswald was employed by the CIA working on high level assignments and probably also for the FBI."
Can't prove that to you because the History/Discovery Channel program was confiscated. At the end of the one hour program, Tunnheim repeats this conclusion TWICE and the TEXT appears below on the screen.
carmencita ago
Well, the fact that the program was confiscated, should tell us something. I somewhat guessed the special would be tailor made to their convenience. Not something we were hoping to hear. It's so sad that there is not much that will shock us anymore.
Votescam ago
The program appeared on HistoryDiscovery Channel when it was calling itself "the network for the new Millennia."
It appeared for about a month or more and using a new TV recorder I began filming it after seeing it a few times and recognizing it's value. At the time of the JFK assassination, all of our journalists/reporters began asking for Oswald's work records, his income tax returns, W-2 forms. They were always denied. However, they would have been in the Classified records.
While I was recording the program-- just before the end of the program where Tunnheim repeats their unanimous conclusion -- my doorbell rang and since I had stopped recording to eliminate an ad, I didn't get the last part which was the most essential part of the program.
Since it had been appearing fairly regularly, I wasn't concerned. However, after maybe one more appearance the program disappeared. A while later, what appeared to be a rebuttal to info in that program appeared and it was very poorly done and rather ridiculous. It played maybe three times and then that disappeared as well.
Never saw the original documentary again and later heard that Jimmy Carter had alerted the LBJ family and Bill Moyers and former Pres. Jerry Ford.
Evidently all copies of the documentary were taken from the History/Discovery channel and it has never turned up on YouTube.
I've also read that John Tunnheim did report the findings of the Panel to a Congressional Panel and that this was about the time of the Lewinsky scandal and the Clinton impeachment. Presumably the report and its findings were buried -- the actual report, that is.
carmencita ago
That must have been infuriating. I am sure you have tried every which way to obtain the lost part of the program. I have long had admiration for Jimmy Carter, but recently my feelings have changed about him and a few others. Did Tunnheim write a book? I can think of no other solution, for the Congressional Panel and the findings, surely as you say, will never be released as well.
Votescam ago
I think that at the time the program was pulled -- where he very clearly put himself in danger in order to get the info out -- that he was probably very seriously threatened at the same time which usually also includes threat to the family - children. When I saw Fetzer's book on the obvious EDITING of the Zapruder film I realized that he wasn't aware of the info and I wrote him a note. He called me and I made clear that the tape I had didn't have the last bit of info (unfortunate that they did it that way) ... and I sent it to him. Think he knew Tunnheim, but again -- all it proves is that there was a program no longer seen with a missing ending. And unless it appears on YouTube at some point, then that effort is pretty much over. The last part of the series of "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" ... "The Guilty Men" ... did finally show up on YouTube. But YouTube now has a new owner and things are changing there. I'm sure other people saw it and we may find out one day that someone else recorded it. Let's hope that Tunheim manages to stay alive and some day soon the world will be safer for truth.
carmencita ago
Wow. What a story. I wonder, have you tried on Ebay? A lot of time people sell things without knowing what they have or how important it even is. Like kids selling their now deceased parents belongings? I just checked and there are quite a few 2 disc sets avail. but I noticed one with 3 discs, maybe that could be the full set? IDK, I agree that sometime the truth will come out.