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pbvrocks ago

Hiding in plain site...these folks have rules and they have to tell us what they are doing. I think second part of that equation is that we have to agree, either by inaction, lack of attention, or other methods..BTW..I take back my Sovereignty and would suggest we all just take a sec and do the same :-)

redditsuckz ago

these folks have rules and they have to tell us what they are doing

So this video is probaly 100% FACT;

BLOOD SACRIFICE FOR MCDONALD'S DVD feat Zionist Rabbi abe finkelstein & James Wickstrom HQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eSSWt5yaEk

You can see these freaks are shit scared of "Karma";

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4895

Wikileaks- New code found! Reveals John, Mary, Podesta & Tamera Luzzatto Thelema Cultists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdRx4nRUJg8

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1565573

Northern_Soul ago

Thelema

Before we attach the labels “totalitarian” or “fascist” to Crowleyites we should outline the main features of the Thelemic worldview.

Many Thelemites consider themselves to be divine agents, acting from a “True Will” — while non-Thelemites are mere 'objects' — as indicated in Crowley's dictum, "the slaves shall serve." The “slaves who shall serve” are each and everyone who lives (according to the Thelemic worldview) in dependency: dependants/subordinates, addicts, weaklings — in other words: the enslaved ones.

In occult terms the Thelemite is a dichotomist, seeing himself as a superior being or a 'chosen one', while everyone else is as nothing. This sort of Thelemite (certainly, there are exceptions to the rule) lives in a world ruled by good and evil; of course, as a superior being these Thelemites might reach a level that is above that (the “crossing of the Abyss”) — but nevertheless the world below the abyss is only black and white. Thelemites are trapped in such relationships; all are victims and culprits, masters and slaves, gods and sub-humans. And this is mirrored in their language when they describe their critics, ex-members, the (Christian) churches, the government, the administration or whomever they target.

This is contradictory to the self-portrayal of Thelema retailed to the public from which new members must be drawn.

Not only is the religious-philosophical ideology Thelema totalitarian, but also the emotional attitude, the value conceptions, the opinions about being chosen, the rôle identifications, the projected unfair fate of the Thelemites and the assumption of the justified predominance over non-Thelemites derived from all of these considerations. Viewed politically, this is expressed in all political orientations resulting from an anti-democratic perspective.

Democracy

In 1922, Crowley hoped that Israel had to be subjected completely to the Law of Thelema, because he, Crowley the Anti-Christ, nevertheless was the Messiah for which the Jews waited. How does this daydream fit into Crowley's alleged fascist Weltanschauung?

Crowley appears to have been a political opportunist, a hypocrite whose chief principle was self-interest. His main political statement can be picked out from his diary entry of May 29, 1923:

I'm certainly not an anarchist, for the family is the smallest and vilest unit of government: nor a Socialist, for the State is the largest and so the least human unit. I suppose then, that — with Ethyl as without — I want a Patriarchal-Feudal system run by initiated Kings.


Is it safe to say Nazism and Zionist Judaism are one of the same thing?

What do Royalty, Nazism, Mk Ultra and Pizzagate have in common? "ANNA NICOLE SMITH"

The bigger picture https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1879537

CosmicChrist ago

Wait a second.

Thelemites are Dichotomous? You do realize one of the core principles of Crowely's philosophy was Unity through the mutual destruction of opposites, yes? You do understand what "dichotomist" means, right?

You destroy all your credibility multiple times as far as knowledge of the topic at hand goes. You've really taken your mind into a twisted place of confusion, or you are knowingly posting this garbage for whatever effect. Please stop spouting off this nonsense.

Northern_Soul ago

Yes this is contradictory to the self-portrayal of Thelema retailed to the public from which new members must be drawn. You've clearly fallen victim to the false narrative.

Not only is the religious-philosophical ideology Thelema totalitarian, but also the emotional attitude, the value conceptions, the opinions about being chosen, the rôle identifications, the projected unfair fate of the Thelemites and the assumption of the justified predominance over non-Thelemites derived from all of these considerations. Viewed politically, this is expressed in all political orientations resulting from an anti-democratic perspective.

"The Medusa's Head", John Symonds' novel about an alleged meeting between Hitler and Crowley, Thame, England, 1991. 350 numbered copies only.

Crowley could be regarded as a political opportunist chumming up with anyone anywhere, and running the business of his religion (Thelema) for his private amusement. However, the more he failed with his political ambitions and his utopian endeavours, the more he flaunted himself as the founder of a religion.

Crowley attracted fanatics from all walks of life. He was a prig (not only in respect of his political views), who had assembled a religion for self styled outsiders. One would be hard put to regard this religion as either philantropical or democratic. Thelema always aspires to turn into a state religion, nevermind of which state, i.e. its founder tried to ingratiate himself with his religion to anything state-like, no matter how totalitarian or radical it was. For him, the main issue was the presence of an anti-christian element. The amazing thing about those efforts is that Thelema and the Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.) did not want to substitute christianity but return it to its original condition. Thus Crowley wrote in 1944, entirely along Theodor Reuss’ lines that it was the task of the O.T.O "to restore Christianity to its real status as a solar-phallic religion".

Crowley had connections to communist characters. His totalitarian streak could blend with the "right" or the "left," and both "right" and "left" if pursued to extremes verge into shades of the totalitarian. In this sense one can call him a fascist but one could equally call him a communist, and he was neither in the final analysis. However, it is obvious that some misanthropic elements can be found in the biography of Crowley, in the concept of Thelema and in the instructions for members of the O.T.O. and its environment. We will thus concentrate on the most evident examples and protagonists. And who else can be found in this milieu: the occult racists. And the rôle models.

Occult organisations are frequently faced with the reproach of cherishing Right Wing extremist ideas; not least because of Aleister Crowley’s distinction between "ordinary" humans who are compared to dogs - and who serve - and a superior class of human gods, who rule the dogs.

Crowley's 1937 idea of the commercial utilization of the Swastika on porcelain cups and his suggestion to discuss Thelema “as the base for the Nazi new order” [diary entry dated 5th May 1936] indicate the assumption of a totalitarian conviction by Crowley.

On the other hand, after the National Socialist seizure of power, more than two dozen Lodge-like organisations, including occult groups, were forbidden. The 1937 circulated decree of the SS Reichsführer was the political conclusion of Nazi propaganda against freemasons and similar organizations. The Gestapo was given the order to dissolve all forbidden groups which they had not already targeted.

Can you speak German?

CosmicChrist ago

Well I am impressed at how you can write so much and say so little. Even bothering to copy and paste bits from your first post again, well done. You're free to draw your own conclusions of Crowely anyway you please, but your artistry seems rudimentary.

You seem to be well studied, but somehow you simultaneously seem to have overshot and come up short of the mark. Perhaps you have fallen victim to your own false narrative.

Northern_Soul ago

I was reiterating my first point then summarizing... "thoughts for you to ponder". Unfortunately, the quote box didn't work.

Perhaps my keyboard is unable to keep pace with my super charged mental abilities, and is more suitable to your limited basic principles.

That, or your clearly trying your hardest at topic dilution with your ineffective technique to cause "resource burn." By implementing continual and non-related Alice in Wonderland Logic that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers.

CosmicChrist ago

You have it all figured out! How foolish of me to question such an authority on the subject.

Northern_Soul ago

A rebel is more of a suitable term I think :)

CosmicChrist ago

Well feel free to call it by whatever term suits you, I never intended to get into a deep discourse here. I only wished for others reading your post to see some opposition, in hope people will question what they read and do research of their own, to form their own conclusions. I meant no harm.

Northern_Soul ago

No harm taken. It's the heart what should rule the mind, always. This what counts!

CosmicChrist ago

Something we agree on 👍