we gotta stop waiting for some msm or high level politician to solve the problems (especially a war mongering shill like hannity). best we can do for now is to try and spread information and try and get a ground swell that might force some action or at the very least effect very slow change as the elite start fearing that too many are catching on to their most heinous acts
i guess a lot of people on voat consider themselves conservatives....cuz otherwise it was hard to figure out why it seemed many thought that hannity was actually gonna do something courageous and righteous
i guess a lot of people on voat consider themselves conservatives
Labels divide us which is the intended. The ppl on voat (minus trolls n shills) are your basic normal good ppl that have not totally abandoned hope. We look for the good and honest in ppl. There is nothing wrong with that but we need to be more fortified so when let downs happen we go 'oh well, shit happens' and carry on lol.
yeah agreed re labels. do you think most of the ppl believing that hannity was gonna break the rich story were shills? having trouble figuring out where the faith in hannity and fox news came from
do you think most of the ppl believing that hannity was gonna break the rich story were shills?
I'm not a shill and two months ago I would have been one of the hopefuls. Keep learning more about the propaganda matrix, what a rabbit hole, and gatekeepers become obvious. Can't believe I actually questioned for some time is GW just dumb or gatekeeper. When hannity did the cgi interview with Julian I made rationalizations (for obvious cgi) bc I just knew hannity would not be involved in something like that (but now I see he's a ratings diva)/same with Julian's cgi with Pilger. But cgi is cgi, that's that. The reasons for making cgi interviews/have not a clue. From everything I know about John Pilger (not much) he seems legit. Was there a reason Julian had to appear to be in the embassy/how would I know? Was he kidnapped and they tried to break his mental steel door for his insurance file/but with his early mkultra training from the cult he was in as a child via his mom (and perhaps cia manufactured child bc they all have similar physical characteristics)/had he learned enough about mind control to not be broken? If he does have a damning insurance file (which seems probable) then physical torture or harming his family would create a backdraft and the fire would explode. My best guess on Julian at this point, and it is best guess flavored with that 'hope' part of me is he was originally cia and went rogue when he was deemed expendable for political reasons and thrown under the bus. I keep going back to his recent balcony presser...I will not forgive or forget/and he looked quite pissed to me.
This ties in with your original question...most of us here are normal, honest, caring ppl and we think in those terms when viewing others. It's our natural state of being-ness. What we are learning (some faster than others, I'm on the slow team lol) is even those we thought were legit are carefully scripted gatekeepers. Are we correct every time we think we've spotted a gatekeeper? Of course not...bc we have to best guess. I do see our skills as a group refining however...one red pill at a time.
On a completely OT side-note, just read Sean Spicer, who is next in line for the chopping block (and as I read Melania, whore of Babylon) wants him gone too. Anyway, for whatever one may think of Sean, he has been devoted to trump and does his best to lie out his teeth in the pressers. Sure he gets irritated, frustrated and hostile/who wouldn't when you have to face the press almost daily and keep covering up trump's latest lie/the stress has to be tremendous. That being said Sean is a devout catholic (I know I know) but to Catholics meeting the pope is akin to meeting god. Sean was excited (understatement) to meet the pope/the high point of his life I would imagine. Non Catholics gave their spot of the pope (pedo sure but whatever) audience to Catholics...but Sean was left out. This really shows you the true character of trump, mean, vindictive and blame tossing (it's never trump's fault about anything). Sean has put himself up for ridicule for a lying con man. He will be fired or sent to cubby hole Siberia. Wouldn't a so called christian (trump and the Babylon bitch) let Sean have this one moment, the one moment all devout Catholics wet dream about? Nah, trump is a very mean mean man/and his wife is no better.
yes, i do forget that most people haven't had the motivation to question the "official stories" before p/g and aren't as (overly?)skeptical as me. that is hopefully at least one positive thing from p/g - more people questioning what msm and leaders are saying and doing.
Spicer does have a tough job, and sounds as if he shoulda been allowed to see the pope
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Jobew1 ago
we gotta stop waiting for some msm or high level politician to solve the problems (especially a war mongering shill like hannity). best we can do for now is to try and spread information and try and get a ground swell that might force some action or at the very least effect very slow change as the elite start fearing that too many are catching on to their most heinous acts
4_InquiringMinds ago
@Jobew1
This is such an important thing to ALWAYS REMEMBER. Word, word and more word...
Jobew1 ago
i guess a lot of people on voat consider themselves conservatives....cuz otherwise it was hard to figure out why it seemed many thought that hannity was actually gonna do something courageous and righteous
4_InquiringMinds ago
Labels divide us which is the intended. The ppl on voat (minus trolls n shills) are your basic normal good ppl that have not totally abandoned hope. We look for the good and honest in ppl. There is nothing wrong with that but we need to be more fortified so when let downs happen we go 'oh well, shit happens' and carry on lol.
Jobew1 ago
yeah agreed re labels. do you think most of the ppl believing that hannity was gonna break the rich story were shills? having trouble figuring out where the faith in hannity and fox news came from
4_InquiringMinds ago
I'm not a shill and two months ago I would have been one of the hopefuls. Keep learning more about the propaganda matrix, what a rabbit hole, and gatekeepers become obvious. Can't believe I actually questioned for some time is GW just dumb or gatekeeper. When hannity did the cgi interview with Julian I made rationalizations (for obvious cgi) bc I just knew hannity would not be involved in something like that (but now I see he's a ratings diva)/same with Julian's cgi with Pilger. But cgi is cgi, that's that. The reasons for making cgi interviews/have not a clue. From everything I know about John Pilger (not much) he seems legit. Was there a reason Julian had to appear to be in the embassy/how would I know? Was he kidnapped and they tried to break his mental steel door for his insurance file/but with his early mkultra training from the cult he was in as a child via his mom (and perhaps cia manufactured child bc they all have similar physical characteristics)/had he learned enough about mind control to not be broken? If he does have a damning insurance file (which seems probable) then physical torture or harming his family would create a backdraft and the fire would explode. My best guess on Julian at this point, and it is best guess flavored with that 'hope' part of me is he was originally cia and went rogue when he was deemed expendable for political reasons and thrown under the bus. I keep going back to his recent balcony presser...I will not forgive or forget/and he looked quite pissed to me.
This ties in with your original question...most of us here are normal, honest, caring ppl and we think in those terms when viewing others. It's our natural state of being-ness. What we are learning (some faster than others, I'm on the slow team lol) is even those we thought were legit are carefully scripted gatekeepers. Are we correct every time we think we've spotted a gatekeeper? Of course not...bc we have to best guess. I do see our skills as a group refining however...one red pill at a time.
On a completely OT side-note, just read Sean Spicer, who is next in line for the chopping block (and as I read Melania, whore of Babylon) wants him gone too. Anyway, for whatever one may think of Sean, he has been devoted to trump and does his best to lie out his teeth in the pressers. Sure he gets irritated, frustrated and hostile/who wouldn't when you have to face the press almost daily and keep covering up trump's latest lie/the stress has to be tremendous. That being said Sean is a devout catholic (I know I know) but to Catholics meeting the pope is akin to meeting god. Sean was excited (understatement) to meet the pope/the high point of his life I would imagine. Non Catholics gave their spot of the pope (pedo sure but whatever) audience to Catholics...but Sean was left out. This really shows you the true character of trump, mean, vindictive and blame tossing (it's never trump's fault about anything). Sean has put himself up for ridicule for a lying con man. He will be fired or sent to cubby hole Siberia. Wouldn't a so called christian (trump and the Babylon bitch) let Sean have this one moment, the one moment all devout Catholics wet dream about? Nah, trump is a very mean mean man/and his wife is no better.
Jobew1 ago
yes, i do forget that most people haven't had the motivation to question the "official stories" before p/g and aren't as (overly?)skeptical as me. that is hopefully at least one positive thing from p/g - more people questioning what msm and leaders are saying and doing.
Spicer does have a tough job, and sounds as if he shoulda been allowed to see the pope