I don't think Seth Rich was connected to the Podesta e-mail leaks, only the DNC e-mail leaks. However I think that pizzagate is merely a peek into the corruption and attempts to limit this voat discussion to only "pizzagate" are inadvisable. Supposing Comet Pizza was shut down and Alefantis and Podesta sent to jail. The pedophila would go on, the people in high places that promote, participate and protect would remain untouched. To get the focus off Russia and onto the content of both the DNC and Podesta e-mails is a good thing. Note that while the MSM talks Russia and talks Flynn, the Podesta e-mails are forgotten. If it can be shown that Rich was the leaker of the DNC maybe the whole Russia thing will collapse and we can talk content. Don't forget that Flynn's son had some things to say about Pizzagate. In fact removing Flynn might have been more about Pizzagate than anything else. So destroying the "Russia did it" meme about all leaking, even DNC leaking, is a good thing. If we just examine the tread that we see, we don't accomplish much. If we pull on the tread perhaps the whole thing will unravel. I am in favor of letting tangential material stand. People can ignore comments they think aren't relevant. People who want to see a bigger picture can read them.
Our focus here is corruption which is connected to pedophilia. Could you explain how Seth links to that? This is not a thread for general corruption...a HUGE topic. And by the way, I have discovered possible Russian links to the global pedophile ring story. We need to take the party politics out of this discussion here. Pizzagate is another animal entirely.
OK so if someone suspects that something links to Pizzagate but can't quite prove it yet, then we can't discuss it? So we can only discuss what we know for sure links to Pizzagate? Well then the pizzagate investigation is pretty much doomed. Perhaps that is the point of trying all the time to narrow the focus, to keep it small, to make it fail.
Discussing the Russian aspect is not party politics. I am a liberal, lifelong Democrat. But there is absolutely NO proof that Russia leaked the DNC or Podesta e-mails. Gen Flynn has been removed because of supposed Russian contacts that are nothing unusual. So no one is paying any attention to what his son was saying about Pizzagate http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/incoming-national-security-advisers-son-spreads-fake-news-about-dc-pizza-shop-232181 and resigns from Trumps transition team. Hmmm. Whether or not some Russians are involved in child trafficking is irrelevant. The MSM has successfully moved the Pizzagate story to the back burner. The Seth Rich story has the potential to revive it and to discredit the MSM. And the connection may run deeper, but hey if we can't discuss it how will we know. It is suggestive enough that I believe it belongs on this thread.
I take your point. I've just been concerned that Pizzagate is on the back burner as you say. And when I mentioned Russian connections I was referring to the wider pizzagate issue not the leaked DNC or Podesta emails. Let's see what happens next.
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Kacey ago
I don't think Seth Rich was connected to the Podesta e-mail leaks, only the DNC e-mail leaks. However I think that pizzagate is merely a peek into the corruption and attempts to limit this voat discussion to only "pizzagate" are inadvisable. Supposing Comet Pizza was shut down and Alefantis and Podesta sent to jail. The pedophila would go on, the people in high places that promote, participate and protect would remain untouched. To get the focus off Russia and onto the content of both the DNC and Podesta e-mails is a good thing. Note that while the MSM talks Russia and talks Flynn, the Podesta e-mails are forgotten. If it can be shown that Rich was the leaker of the DNC maybe the whole Russia thing will collapse and we can talk content. Don't forget that Flynn's son had some things to say about Pizzagate. In fact removing Flynn might have been more about Pizzagate than anything else. So destroying the "Russia did it" meme about all leaking, even DNC leaking, is a good thing. If we just examine the tread that we see, we don't accomplish much. If we pull on the tread perhaps the whole thing will unravel. I am in favor of letting tangential material stand. People can ignore comments they think aren't relevant. People who want to see a bigger picture can read them.
cantsleepawink ago
Our focus here is corruption which is connected to pedophilia. Could you explain how Seth links to that? This is not a thread for general corruption...a HUGE topic. And by the way, I have discovered possible Russian links to the global pedophile ring story. We need to take the party politics out of this discussion here. Pizzagate is another animal entirely.
AssFaceSandwich2 ago
Links to Australia, Belgium, The U.K., South Korea, and others as well. When do we call for war against them?
Kacey ago
OK so if someone suspects that something links to Pizzagate but can't quite prove it yet, then we can't discuss it? So we can only discuss what we know for sure links to Pizzagate? Well then the pizzagate investigation is pretty much doomed. Perhaps that is the point of trying all the time to narrow the focus, to keep it small, to make it fail.
Discussing the Russian aspect is not party politics. I am a liberal, lifelong Democrat. But there is absolutely NO proof that Russia leaked the DNC or Podesta e-mails. Gen Flynn has been removed because of supposed Russian contacts that are nothing unusual. So no one is paying any attention to what his son was saying about Pizzagate http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/incoming-national-security-advisers-son-spreads-fake-news-about-dc-pizza-shop-232181 and resigns from Trumps transition team. Hmmm. Whether or not some Russians are involved in child trafficking is irrelevant. The MSM has successfully moved the Pizzagate story to the back burner. The Seth Rich story has the potential to revive it and to discredit the MSM. And the connection may run deeper, but hey if we can't discuss it how will we know. It is suggestive enough that I believe it belongs on this thread.
cantsleepawink ago
I take your point. I've just been concerned that Pizzagate is on the back burner as you say. And when I mentioned Russian connections I was referring to the wider pizzagate issue not the leaked DNC or Podesta emails. Let's see what happens next.