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Laskar ago

If it is true that no code was called, that's a smoking gun for sure.

I doubt the ED chart notes would have everything written in--I've witnessed omissions for less reason. The chart is a legal document, and as such should be subpoenaed if there is a real investigation into his death.

While it's true that it is possible to die while on life support (ventilator, IVF etc.), it is also very easy to kill someone on life support. The people who know how to resuscitate you also know how to kill without a trace: a precordial thump at the wrong time, saline ice cubes in the ET tube, an injection of KCl, messing with the vent settings, etc. etc. there are countless quick, easy and untraceable ways.

DerivaUK ago

Remind me never to cross you, @Laskar! Lol

Laskar ago

I have refused orders which were unethical and would cause harm, even if the orders were written in a chart. I knew that whoever wrote them would not like to be exposed in court. But there are many who could not care less and comply with unbelievable cruelty.

I have never removed anyone from life support, even if it was ordered. I would just point to the red plug and say, "there's the plug if you want this person to die--you do it". At some medical centers, they even order slow suffocation by turning down the number of breaths per minute one by one every half hour. Families don;t say anything because they have no comprehension of ventilators and blindly trust TMPTB.

You might want to think twice about "advanced directives" and talk to someone who knows what they imply before consenting to torture or murder.