After 1966 when Paul died, possibly a bit before. They were too big an act for the British intel to not make use of. And lots of money involved. Paul was replaced by a talented Scottish studio musician William (Bill) Shears, who was a Freemason (he admits as much in his book but downplays it, also downplays his involvement in Satanism and the occult and seances etc.).
Contracts via lawyers were signed by the other 3 that Paul would lead the band now and the direction would be more "counter-culture." The other 3 agreed under stress and they had no choice. The morbidity surrounding them was due to them wanting to drop hints in album covers and songs that Paul had died and been replaced. The whole thing affected the new Paul significantly too. Long and winding road ... I mean story. You can do a google search for interviews or get the book "Memoirs of Billy Shears."
I seriously doubt any of them were pedophiles (though manager Epstein, who died at 32 and was homosexual) might have been. It's true they likely in younger days, bedded teenagers. That bloody babies butcher album cover was hated by most of the (young at that time) Beatles. John thought it was "cool," avant garde stuff.
Lennon was probably murdered for talking too much, there's some clouds surrounding Yoko too. Heather Mills is scared to death because she knows. Etc. Why'd you get me started on this?
Yeah, do tell! I don't know why I got you started, but I'm glad I did. But Epstein and Lennon had sex. What about Lennon and Jagger? There's a weird thing between the two bands. Remember when The Stones dressed up like The Beatles? That's very occult.
There's been some speculation about Lennon's sexuality. I doubt he was into men much but wouldn't surprise me if he "experimented" when he was wasted. Had big problems with heroin. "Cold Turkey" song is about that. Also the song "I'm So Tired" on the White Album." Listen to Lennon's song "Mother" and feel his heart break about his childhood. Some primeval "screaming" in there. Spooky.
I doubt Jagger was into men much either (though he reveled in being thought of as androgynous and loved wearing make-up for a while) but I do know Lennon and he were great friends and had same sense of humor. Jagger did "rape" Mackenzie Phillips while in her dad's house (dad was Mama's and The Papa's founder and wrote "San Francisco Flowers in Your Hair" and gave it away to his friend and lead singer Mackenzie who he named his daughter after). High on Arrival is her book, it's incredible.
Paul (Faul they call him) says the Stones indeed are flat out Satanists ... but again, he dodges the question concerning his own involvement. Don't remember the Stones dressing up like the Beatles.
This is such a deep rabbit hole, much more that would blow your mind. I'm no kook and it took me almost two years (off and on) to understand everything and finally grudgingly embrace it. I had to quit looking at it, just too heavy.
The Beatles had to be Satanic ... at least Lennon did. Wasn't he part of the Kenneth Anger crowd? Mick Jagger definitely was. And I believe Jagger was caught in bed with Bowie. As for MacKenzie Phillip, have no idea whether she was molested. I tend to believe accusations such as these, and she fits the screwed up kid that was molested, so somebody got to her would be my guess. There is a deep rabbit hole. I was doing some digging into the Kenneth Anger angle and it gets to be too much. You're right. I also connected some of what The Zodiac Killer did with The Beatles music. I can't remember all the clues. I assembled, or if they made sense, but I've always felt that Manson was either involved or knew. So many ways to think about this, but Lennon was definitely part of that crowd.
I don't know the name Kenneth Anger, I'll have to check him out. I like to have good sources, I don't like to speculate (the truth is crazy enough). Nothing would surprise me about Lennon, but I know he was a pretty unhappy person, and battled addiction. Sir Paul it appears, when he took over the band, led the others astray, though Lennon was pretty independent ... they all ended up hating Sir Paul. Sir Paul was, and still is, into the occult. And I believe he is "handled" by intelligence. Don't know much about the Zodiac and the Beatles.
I do know that CIA used Sir Paul and others (Mamas and the Papas) to infiltrate the Monterrey Pop Festival and distribute LSD to see the effects. Even JFK experimented with LSD through his mistress Mary Pinochet (book Mary's Mosaic) and Timothy Leary.
There was a very complex connection between Manson and CIA, the Beatles, and esp the Beach Boys who Manson stayed with and even recorded a song with. The Beatles lyrics written in blood at the Tate place were before the album even came out. The house belonged to Doris Day's son Terry Melcher who was a record producer, and of course all these famous people are involved, Polanski, Folger, Sebring, Tate. What a mess. I think it was a CIA operation, the murders. Manson always stated that he never killed anyone. He was a petty criminal who owned nothing till the CIA "enlisted" him.
Anger was Bowies manager in the beginning of his career, he was also deeply in love with Bowie, a kind of a father figure too. their relationship was cut down by David after idontrememberrightnow, he didn't really understand the route Bowie took artistically and whatnot. and also because David wasn't in love with him.
Thanks for this. I gotta run, but have you ever heard of Rodney BINGENHEIMER (sorry for all caps)? He was a big Bowie fan and I went out to meet him at his club back in '75. They were all crazy punk rockers. I was trying to be a star lol, glad I failed. They were crazy. Talk later.
dont think i have so thanks for the tip, the Anger part i know from reading marc spitz' "Bowie", although very fanboyish it was still an interesting read.
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quantokitty ago
They were absolutely part of the conspiracy. That piece of shit commie Lennon set the precedent for Obama's immigration plan. http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/beatles-john-lennon-set-precedent-obamas-immigration-policy And remember that Manson insisted their music contained hidden messages.Did they?
HollandDrive ago
Lennon was irreversibly traumatized by the death of Paul and subsequent coercion, intimidation, and contractual N/D agreements he endured.
quantokitty ago
Well, there was something about the death of his mother, too. Think her sister was taking care of him, no?
HollandDrive ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfU70TFWM3Y
quantokitty ago
Thanks, but where do the handlers, Satanism, and sexual abuse come in?
HollandDrive ago
After 1966 when Paul died, possibly a bit before. They were too big an act for the British intel to not make use of. And lots of money involved. Paul was replaced by a talented Scottish studio musician William (Bill) Shears, who was a Freemason (he admits as much in his book but downplays it, also downplays his involvement in Satanism and the occult and seances etc.).
Contracts via lawyers were signed by the other 3 that Paul would lead the band now and the direction would be more "counter-culture." The other 3 agreed under stress and they had no choice. The morbidity surrounding them was due to them wanting to drop hints in album covers and songs that Paul had died and been replaced. The whole thing affected the new Paul significantly too. Long and winding road ... I mean story. You can do a google search for interviews or get the book "Memoirs of Billy Shears."
I seriously doubt any of them were pedophiles (though manager Epstein, who died at 32 and was homosexual) might have been. It's true they likely in younger days, bedded teenagers. That bloody babies butcher album cover was hated by most of the (young at that time) Beatles. John thought it was "cool," avant garde stuff.
Lennon was probably murdered for talking too much, there's some clouds surrounding Yoko too. Heather Mills is scared to death because she knows. Etc. Why'd you get me started on this?
Edit: William Shepard was his name, not Shears.
quantokitty ago
Yeah, do tell! I don't know why I got you started, but I'm glad I did. But Epstein and Lennon had sex. What about Lennon and Jagger? There's a weird thing between the two bands. Remember when The Stones dressed up like The Beatles? That's very occult.
HollandDrive ago
There's been some speculation about Lennon's sexuality. I doubt he was into men much but wouldn't surprise me if he "experimented" when he was wasted. Had big problems with heroin. "Cold Turkey" song is about that. Also the song "I'm So Tired" on the White Album." Listen to Lennon's song "Mother" and feel his heart break about his childhood. Some primeval "screaming" in there. Spooky.
I doubt Jagger was into men much either (though he reveled in being thought of as androgynous and loved wearing make-up for a while) but I do know Lennon and he were great friends and had same sense of humor. Jagger did "rape" Mackenzie Phillips while in her dad's house (dad was Mama's and The Papa's founder and wrote "San Francisco Flowers in Your Hair" and gave it away to his friend and lead singer Mackenzie who he named his daughter after). High on Arrival is her book, it's incredible.
Paul (Faul they call him) says the Stones indeed are flat out Satanists ... but again, he dodges the question concerning his own involvement. Don't remember the Stones dressing up like the Beatles.
This is such a deep rabbit hole, much more that would blow your mind. I'm no kook and it took me almost two years (off and on) to understand everything and finally grudgingly embrace it. I had to quit looking at it, just too heavy.
quantokitty ago
The Beatles had to be Satanic ... at least Lennon did. Wasn't he part of the Kenneth Anger crowd? Mick Jagger definitely was. And I believe Jagger was caught in bed with Bowie. As for MacKenzie Phillip, have no idea whether she was molested. I tend to believe accusations such as these, and she fits the screwed up kid that was molested, so somebody got to her would be my guess. There is a deep rabbit hole. I was doing some digging into the Kenneth Anger angle and it gets to be too much. You're right. I also connected some of what The Zodiac Killer did with The Beatles music. I can't remember all the clues. I assembled, or if they made sense, but I've always felt that Manson was either involved or knew. So many ways to think about this, but Lennon was definitely part of that crowd.
HollandDrive ago
I don't know the name Kenneth Anger, I'll have to check him out. I like to have good sources, I don't like to speculate (the truth is crazy enough). Nothing would surprise me about Lennon, but I know he was a pretty unhappy person, and battled addiction. Sir Paul it appears, when he took over the band, led the others astray, though Lennon was pretty independent ... they all ended up hating Sir Paul. Sir Paul was, and still is, into the occult. And I believe he is "handled" by intelligence. Don't know much about the Zodiac and the Beatles.
I do know that CIA used Sir Paul and others (Mamas and the Papas) to infiltrate the Monterrey Pop Festival and distribute LSD to see the effects. Even JFK experimented with LSD through his mistress Mary Pinochet (book Mary's Mosaic) and Timothy Leary.
There was a very complex connection between Manson and CIA, the Beatles, and esp the Beach Boys who Manson stayed with and even recorded a song with. The Beatles lyrics written in blood at the Tate place were before the album even came out. The house belonged to Doris Day's son Terry Melcher who was a record producer, and of course all these famous people are involved, Polanski, Folger, Sebring, Tate. What a mess. I think it was a CIA operation, the murders. Manson always stated that he never killed anyone. He was a petty criminal who owned nothing till the CIA "enlisted" him.
followthedolla ago
Anger was Bowies manager in the beginning of his career, he was also deeply in love with Bowie, a kind of a father figure too. their relationship was cut down by David after idontrememberrightnow, he didn't really understand the route Bowie took artistically and whatnot. and also because David wasn't in love with him.
HollandDrive ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EDp2oHQaRI
HollandDrive ago
Thanks for this. I gotta run, but have you ever heard of Rodney BINGENHEIMER (sorry for all caps)? He was a big Bowie fan and I went out to meet him at his club back in '75. They were all crazy punk rockers. I was trying to be a star lol, glad I failed. They were crazy. Talk later.
followthedolla ago
dont think i have so thanks for the tip, the Anger part i know from reading marc spitz' "Bowie", although very fanboyish it was still an interesting read.