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RweSure ago

Flynn JR is also pushing a silly idea. Why would there be any investigation into pizzagate? There's no evidence. Everything is based on pure speculation. There's zero probable cause. It's like saying you can falsely call someone an arsonist and claim it's not fake because they have never been investigated for arson. It's completely ass backwards and fake.

I'll make an offer. I'll leave this board if someone can come up with genuine probable cause that the police could use that would justify a warrant against the Podestas, Alefantis or Hillary Clinton.

2impendingdoom ago

How about Hillary writing an email to John Podesta explaining that Saudi Arabia and Qatar fund ISIS for the US? How is that not material support to Terrorists? Is knowing this and still materially supporting SA and Q not also abetting Terrorism and Treason? Why don't you explain that? Or why don't you just go away already.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774

RweSure ago

How about Hillary writing an email to John Podesta explaining that Saudi Arabia and Qatar fund ISIS for the US?

Please point me to the part when where the email says "for the US." I do not see anything remotely like that.

Also you are are aware that part of the email is quoting someone else's writing, right? Every thing that begins with >> is a quoted email.

2impendingdoom ago

If you think those things you are just too fucking stupid to be sure of anything.

whatonearth ago

What is your understanding of the sentence "The Qataris and Saudis will be put in a position of balancing policy between their ongoing competition to dominate the Sunni world and the consequences of serious U.S. pressure" then? It looks to me like it is saying that serious U.S. pressure will make it harder for the Qataris and Saudis to keep competing to dominate the Sunni world in the manner that they have been. How are you parsing that sentence to get some other intended meaning from it?

RweSure ago

Nothing about that sentence says they are funding ISIS "FOR US." I take that sentence to mean that are following their foreign policy goals that DO NOT coincide with US goals, which is why we would need to apply "serious US pressure" to make them change and stop working against US interests.

@2impendingdoom

If you think those things you are just too fucking stupid to be sure of anything.

I'm challenging you on your claim. I believe you have stated a falsehood. If this is incorrect, show me the evidence. Where is the support for this claim: Saudi Arabia and Qatar fund ISIS for the US?

The text that Hillary Clinton is passing along is clearly not written by the Secretary of State, because the language makes it plain that the person who wrote this is not a policymaker and not privy to insider information. (Do you think the Secretary of State has ground level sources in Tripoli?)

gives the U.S. Government an opportunity ........... Finally, as it now appears the U.S. is considering a plan

This is someone outside policy discussions as we can see because they are not in the loop regarding the plan to advise the Iraqi military.

If I had one guess, it would be this is an email from Sidney Blumenthal who was passing along information from his business partner and ex-CIA officer, Tyler Drumheller. He sent a lot of emails like this and Blumenthal was interviewed by the Benghazi Committee about them.

2impendingdoom ago

The email was sent by Hilliary to John Podesta so unless she states somebody else wrote it, which she doesn't, then she wrote it. Are you claiming that somebody hacked her email and sent JP fake emails? I think HRC did have ground level sources in both Tripoli and Bengazi until the Bengazi sources were conveniently murdered and its very likely that she was not in the loop regarding Iraq. Regardless of who wrote it, it was from HRC and it definitely says that the US gov. knows and in complicit in supporting ISIS through SA and Q. The email very clearly spells in out in language that anyone can understand, even me who really hasn't studied this much at all. You can not be sure, that's fine if you want to be stubbornly ignorant, but I am sure, and you're not going to bully me into changing my mind about the facts as they are presented.

whatonearth ago

Regardless of who wrote it, it was from HRC and it definitely says that the US gov. knows and in complicit in supporting ISIS through SA and Q.

Knows, yes, but complicit how? The only mention of Saudi Arabia and Qatar in the message is acknowledging their clandestine support for ISIS and saying the US should respond with diplomatic pressure. Are you interpreting that to mean some sort of "keep up the good work, fellas!" pressure? I don't think that's what diplomatic pressure means.

2impendingdoom ago

The only mention of Saudi Arabia and Qatar in the message is acknowledging their clandestine support for ISIS.

That pretty much sums it up.