relevance: we follow these 'truth leaders' and don't wanna be mislead in our investigations.
good evening. let me say up front that I don't care if you call me a shill. you might accuse me of trying to cause division, but these are legitimate and serious viewpoints held by respected voices within the truth movement. i'm not going to spend a lot of time arguing the case as it's out there if you wanna see, so I only ask that you look at the evidence. and without further adieu...
(if you want extra reading—not necessary for the point of this post)
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/06/18/snowden-cia-shill/
(also not essential. here's a funny one for AJ, starting at 5:00)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPHfdUnC_Ng&t=5m
basically, the idea is controlled opposition. they give you truths, gain your trust, and then keep you chasing your tail. evidence for AJ include never naming the Zionists, only calling them 'globalists,' working for time warner, his lawyer being one of the elite, bad acting, disrupting peaceful protests and inciting violence, etc. etc. etc. lot's of evidence out there and on youtube.
with snowden, he's suspected of being a 'limited hangout.' evidence includes not leaking anything we didn't already know, receiving MSM coverage (huge red flag), becoming a media darling, easy escape/lifestyle, talks like Obama, nothing the leaks contained changed corruption, the leaks were harmful to America's enemies, announcing 'leak dates' like it is some news press release, etc. same goes for Assange. oh, and Assange says 9/11 conspiracy is fake.
you can do your own research and come to your own conclusion. i'm not going to try to persuade you in this thread. the idea I want to entertain is: if it's true that they're all CIA ops, then that lends even more credence to pizzagate. think about it.. if everything that has been 'leaked' so far has been a distraction, nothing new, and 'safe,' for them to do so... then it explains how they didn't expect some 4chan super autists to spot only handfuls of code words in what were otherwise thousands of mundane e-mails with a few containing dirt on Hillary. it would mean they messed up. it was unintentional. they had to improvise. I know we are all desperate for our heroes, but it's even more crucial to teach ourselves to keep hope and not be depressed in the absence of such. me, personally—i'm hoping for a gigantic natural disaster that sets them back a few hundred years.
oh, and trump looks shady at best too.
what do you all think?
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DarkMath ago
"never naming the Zionists, only calling them 'globalists,' "
That's easily explained by the desire to avoid being accused of antisemitism.
I think you still have a point though. I've followed this story for 6 months now and I've gotten a feel for all the players. There are many different layers and allegiances that start jumping out of the background. Long story short I think what we're seeing with Alex Jones, Mike Cernovich and George Webb are people at the CIA and Mossad starting to take "The High Road". Maybe that's in stories they start feeding them? I know Mike Cernovich has gotten an awful lot of scoops lately. And mind you I like Mike Cernovich and everyone knows I think George Webb should be the next President of the United States. I'm no anti-semite but you've got to expect these people to have contingency plans.
I think Hillary Clinton losing caught a lot of people off guard and changed the balance of power in a big way. Somewhat cynically I believe there was an un-holy alliance to create ISIS between the CIA, Mossad, the Muslim Brotherhood and the Saudis. You don't have to be a genius to figure out why that alliance is collapsing.
So what do these various Intelligence Communities do? They start adapting to the new balance of power. And the first thing to go down the shitter is the Muslim Brotherhood alliance with Mossad. I think Mike Cernovich and George Webb could be the Israelis "turning states evidence". In other words they could be the start of Israel "singing like a canary" in the court of public opinion. We've got to remember these are "The Jews(tm)" and they're sharp as a fucking tack and it's no surprise they're trying to get ahead of this thing.
Israel is in a very tough position because they could potentially lose a lot of support, namely the Christian Right of which I'd say I'm a member of. And to be honest some of what we've all seen in the past 6 months would make any American an instant isolationist. That would leave Israel potentially high and dry. So Israel throws the Muslim Brotherhood under the bus. As always I could be wrong, but that's what my gut is telling me at this point.
survey_girl ago
I have wondered about Cernovich too.... he is linked to Alan Dershowitz who was accused with Epstine of pedophilia. We always need to be careful who we trust.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1616164
http://idavox.com/index.php/2017/03/09/mike-cernovich-alan-dershowitz-and-the-jeffery-epstein-underage-sex-trafficking-case/
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1707066
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1766829
DarkMath ago
"We always need to be careful who we trust."
Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. But there are several layers of fraud going on here. None of the players are smelling like roses at this point. I view Cernovich and George Webb as sort of a peace offering of sorts. It doesn't feel right to ignore it.
I've see parts of the CIA doing the same thing. The group who's silence is deafening right now is the Muslim Brotherhood. It really looks like they're being set up as the "Fall Guy". You'd think they'd be starting to explore olive trees for branches to cut to use a corny analogy but I couldn't think of anything better.
UnicornsAndSparkles ago
What are the Saudis classed as?
DarkMath ago
The Saudis? Good question, I kind of think they and the Muslim Brotherhood are tied at the hip. They're definitely not the same group though. It'll be interesting to see how the Saudis play this. If I had to guess there doing all they can to buy influence. Maybe that's where this supposed $30 Billion payment to Trump is coming from?
Who knows though, I don't see how this cluster fuck can survive the Deplorable Horde Army centipede attack. The crimes the Deep State has committed are fucking horrible. People can't just forget about it. And the Interwebs means it's not just American citizens who've gotten involved. It's the entire planet. That doesn't bode well for sweeping this under the rug.
UnicornsAndSparkles ago
Yes I think these "brotherhoods" are all connected either by allies or enemies.
$30billion. Wow. My guess is the Saudis.
In Michael Moores (apologies) Fahrenheit 911 they said Saudis own about 7% of America .. and that was 2004!
Too many times it has been said that every government is connected through child abuse. I believe it. Also think UN is a huge piece of this PG puzzle.
There is no sweeping this under the rug. They can't heart attack and suicide us all. They fucked there chance at starting WW3 with Russia. What is their next move .. We will not stop until innocent children are no longer suffering.