Was a voater murdered for this info? (pizzagate)

submitted ago by Ontume

There is something here bc it caused alot of trouble when it was first posted. Caught the attention of botboy and a certain Henry Kiss inger. You be the judge:

Per A A ron Dove r: PG and the CF "are connected through the fraudulent trade in "Non Deliverable Currency Forwards" or "NDF"s. These are forward trades on NONEXISTENT curreny rates which are dollar payments disguised as legitimate trades. The hub is the Singapore Foreign Exchange Market Committee (SFEMC). The HFs such as Palladium will be on one side of the trade via a broker investment bank. On the other side could be any criminal organisation, the trading is totally anonymised to facilitate secrecy. http://www.sfemc.org/" (From the voater who just died under unknown/mysterious circumstances:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1454867))))

More:

"The non deliverable currency forwards which are used by participating firms of the SFEMC are taking forward bets on rates that actually DO NOT EXIST AT ALL. The contracts are essentially fully trusted disguised dollar payments between participants and brokers. The system is an anonymised and disguised plarform for vast illcicit payments worldwide between e.g. hedge funds and people-trafficking operations or drug cartels via the IB intermediaries."

"Master LL Quant Dual is the name of a UBS client which shared the same postal address as LMR’s office but had a different and unusual name. I discovered trade contracts in the name of Master LL Quant Dual, counterparty UBS bank, in the scans folder of the shared drive, signed by Shane Cullinane. Therefore the claim that Shane Cullinane was not familiar with this entity is clearly a deliberate false statement. I strongly suspect that these contracts are not legitimate trades but may be US dollar payments disguised as trades in exotic currency derivatives, specifically “Non Deliverable Forward” contracts. The existence of all the trading in these instruments was kept secret from me during my time at the firm and these contracts contributed to our profits whilst not being factored into the risk and positions. I know this absolutely for certain as I wrote the bespoke system (referred to elsewhere in the proceedings as Risk Ninja) that calculated all of these. For these trades to exist in secret from me was a strong indication that they were not legitimate. When I investigated the contractual terms and how the market operated in great detail, I became quite convinced that these signed scans were evidence of money laundering on a large scale. There were dozens of these trade contracts in the scans folder with the contracts signed by Shane Cullinane; some on behalf of Master LL Quant Dual and others on behalf of LMR. 160. I was asked to represent a list of the currencies associated with these trades as US dollar in our bespoke system formerly known as Risk Ninja. The system calculated P&L, positions and risk at a position level and across trading books. I can say with total certainty that the currency positions created by the trades in Non Deliverable Forward contributed to the profits, but were not accounted for in positions (they showed up as USD cash) or in the risk, where they were also treated as USD cash. At the time I was told that the repeated appearance of obscure currency positions, for example in Korean Won, was due to a bug in the upstream Sophis system and that actually these should be shown as being US dollars. I do not mean that a currency conversion took place at a conversion rate between the two currencies; I mean that a position of 1 million KRW from the upstream system would be treated as 1 million USD by Risk Ninja. To users of the system they would never see these positions except as USD cash. This was the case for all the currencies that were being traded in these contracts, but the existence of this trading was kept entirely secret from me. I do not believe that the trades that I have seen would make sense in the strategies that they were being booked in, and it is impossible that any legitimate trading should have been kept secret from me given that my bespoke system needed to model all our positions in all instrument types."

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Jem777 ago

A.Dover was a voater who died for what he knew.

Money Laundering that could take down "crown" involving Clinton Found.

He was involved at Christchurch primaty with the Hampstead SRA case. The father in that case Ricky Dearman was involved with Clinton Found. & in Haiti.

Children seized unlawfully by the state. It was apparent they were also involved in MK Ultra training with other children at Christchurch Primary.

Aaron D. mother worked as psychologist at Tav. Inst. Aaron stated she is involved. Tavis. Is where FBIanon said the sickest part of all of this exists. He said Soros owns the US & Soros owns Tavis. Some of us have bravely researched all of this in below threads and other places. It is real and terrifying. Tavis. is a giant laboratory involved in human experiments. It always has been. What goes on inside is not know to the public ever.

AngB23 ago

Damn straight! Tav is behind it all. It's a psychological warfare think tank. They are the ones behind how to brainwash with entertainment, media, education, internet and political correctness. Soros also has "universities" around the world and Clintons have some in the US.

It's also been rumored that either Nazi scientist that performed horrible experimental crap on kids/twins either were doing it FOR Tav or went to Tav after to report findings and still do MK Ultra type, torture studies. Which could mean they train CIA, M5/6 and like. They are also the main educators to top schools like MIT. So when we see "studies show, young kids that think they're the opposite sex or youn kids can have sex with adults and it's ok..." type shit, they are the studies manipulating peoples minds to believe this shit.

This SJW bullshit was thought out, planned and implemented for many years.

Votescam ago

Much of what you're saying needs to be investigated.

However, you seem to be suggesting that they are creating trans-sexuals. Do you have any proof of that?

And, of course, trans-sexuality is entirely different from pedophilia which not something the public supports.

Trans-sexuality is not a crime -- adults having sex with children is a crime.

AngB23 ago

Transsexual is not a crime but the moral break down of society is what I'm talking about. If these Satanic Elitists want Paedophilia to become an accepted norm, the way to do it is to slowly break down the moral fibers of people.

Through entertainment, music and education, there has been more sexuality, violence and push of transsexuality to become a norm. Christianity is being pushed out. Media covers up rapes and pedo crimes and shouts from roof tops all the SJW slanted news. Paedophilia is next to become "mainstream" with some states pushing for lower consent laws and less time served for Pedos.

It's common knowledge that it's been studied if you see something shocking the first time, it truly is revolting but the more you show it, read about it or hear about it, the less shocking and more accepting people can become. This is exactly what they are doing to the people. I think the first time someone saw a dude dressed as and becoming a woman it was pretty damn shocking. Now it's kind of becoming a norm. Or, they have brian washed Society that if you say it's NOT normal, you are called a bigot, racist, Nazi...so the people are silenced.

It doesn't take actual documents to see this. It's been happening for years. Then in here in voat, a thread was started where there were connections being looked at between Antifa, Soros and NAMBLA. (men boy love) They are also trying to tag into the LBGT (qxyz...never ending letters) with P. Paedophilia. It's all there, right before our eyes.

Votescam ago

I understand the point you're trying to make, but you also seem to be trying to suggest that transsexual problems are something being created rather than mistakes of nature. I don't think that's something we really know at this time what the cause may be. It does seem to be clear, however, that pedophiles can be created by torture and sexual abuse and MKULTRA has done that. It's not necessarily the same that transsexuality can be created. Sexuality isn't a problem; it is the debasing of human sexuality that is the problem. And I certainly don't see anyone pushing transsexuality to become a "norm" as it is hardly any more easy for transsexuals to divulge their problems to the public and try to explain it to them than it was for homosexuals to come out of the closet and confront "religious norms" and expect society to accept them after a thousand years and more of religious propaganda against them, backed and supported by government.

You also keep claiming that society will accept pedophilia as a "norm" yet every sign is that the public is repulsed by sexual assaults on children and it is still a CRIME -- and you show no evidence that anyone in American in any way supports pedophiles. True -- criminals support pedophilia because it serves their purpose. But that's not true of the public.

Again -- you keep repeating your fears, but I see no basis for what you're saying actually happening. Again -- sexual assault of children is a crime.

I'm not quite up on Antifa, but Soros as far as I can see is a criminal and any organization -- Nambla or anyone else -- who supports sexual relations with anyone underage age -- male or female -- is suggesting criminal activity.

Again -- you're seem to be concerned about something that is criminal and as far as I can see will remain criminal.

Elites want destruction by any means they can arrange it -- destruction and death.

AngB23 ago

Not sure how to make what I'm trying to say more clear. I am not saying transsexual or homosexuality in itself is a horrible thing (i personally don't agree with it but whatever). What I'm saying is that there is a push to more and more shocking, unacceptable things be normal to pave the way for even way more socially unacceptable (Paedophilia) come through. It's the desensitizing of the public psyche.

Do you think 10yrs ago, a stage show like this one in pics would be normal? Today, it appears it is. Again, adults, they can do what they want. But right now the next push orf "normal" IS Paedophilia. I've seen the "Love is Love" (with meaning, an adult with a kid) all over FB, YT and Twitter and no one bans them or takes it down. But those calling out Pedos are banned. It is a psychological push to normalize basically rape of kids by saying everyone should have the right to "love" anyone. Conservative voices being silenced, SJWs (who seem more willing to accept the "love of everyone") is displayed every where. Warning: graphic pics https://imgur.com/a/Nl4zT

Votescam ago

Ang --

What you are saying is clear . . . that you seem to see homosexuality and transsexualism as something akin to pedophilia. You are equally worried about them. And in repeating that "personally don't agree with it" you make that ultra clear. And, I'm sure we've had exactly this conversation at some earlier time, but perhaps you had a different name then?

OVERALL, it is clear that the right wing need is for violence in our societies -- disruption. And long ago they decided that one way to do that was to introduce and increase violence, drug use (legal and illegal), pornography and sexual abuse/torture. This violence is the only way the right wing can rise -- that's always been true - and is still true today.

And, yes, this is a purposeful move on the part of the right wing. I don't know if anyone knows the number or percentage of pedophiles who appear naturally, but I do recall reading studies which showed that a certain percentage of those sexually abused will become pedophiles. However, even if no child is sexually abused, it seems that at least one pedophile will arise. I don't know if they consider circumcision as sexual abuse/torture, but I certainly do -- and I think that ritual should be included in considering whether a child is sexually abused and tortured.

Again, sexual assault on a child is a CRIME and I see no indications that the public finds that crime anything but repulsive.

I've seen nothing like that on YouTube, but if my memory is correct I believe that it is being said that Facebook permits discussion between pedophiles on it's website. Don't know about Twitter, either. And if I use FB or Twitter it is for a very limited purpose and very rarely. Keep in mind that discussion between pedophiles isn't a crime.
There are some websites which are accused of protecting the posting of child pornography which should be illegal everywhere.

There is no longer anything politically which can be considered "conservative" -- anymore than there is anything that can be consider "liberal" politically. The last liberal president we had was JFK and everyone after him were people who either participated in the coup on JFK and our people's government or who protected the coup and cover up.

Conservatives existed at one time and they weren't religious fanatics but they were people who protected the environment. Who didn't permit corporate exploitation of nature. They were people who protected Separation of Church & State. Religion/Christianity is one of the major tools in the right wing tool box for conquest as we've seen throughout history. Still being used today as a fascist means of takeover of our government and to destroy public education.

AngB23 ago

We can agree to disagree. You continue to take what I say, mean and think out of context. All's good

ETA- ill just leave this here http://amp.dailycaller.com/2017/04/28/documents-tie-berkeley-riot-organizers-to-pro-pedophilia-group-nambla/

Votescam ago

We can agree to disagree -- but any time you create comments which are intended to create intolerance for homosexuals, I will reply to you.

I don't know what you think you prove in regard to Berkley/NAMBLA. No one here supports NAMBLA. And what makes you think that any homosexuals support NAMBLA.

I'm not sure that anyone really knows as yet what is going on at Berkley where too often our CIA and FBI are controlling events there as we often saw in colleges and universities across the nation during the VN war.

AngB23 ago

It's been all over Twitter...connections with Antifa and BAMN/NAMBLA. Actually, there's pics of Antifa signs at riots with BAMN on the signs. Hell, look at threads in here with the connections. My comments are not to create intolerance for homosexuals UNLESS Pedos are using that as a guise for screwing kids, which they are doing.

And I totally agree the CIA are also behind a lot of this.

Votescam ago

You're suggesting that an Anti-fascist group is supporting an organization like NAMBLA which advocates sex with children younger than 16 years of age? (Which is what I presume NAMBLA is doing?)

The ACLU however defended NAMBLA in a "free speech" case which had nothing to do with any NAMBLA agenda re sex with underage males.

In suggesting that homosexuals should not have full human and sexual rights, you are spreading intolerance for homosexuals.

Also, in trying to link homosexuals with pedophiles and pedophile activities which is UN-TRUE in both cases according to studies.

Yes, Keep spreading the word of the CIA/MKULTRA involvement in this which isn't just in US, but seems they are also involved as UK/MKUTRA and in Australia, as well.

This also links them to common cause with the RCC which is also linked to these pedophile rings in UK and Belgium and Australia and likely in Ireland, as well.

AngB23 ago

You obviously just reply to posts without checking info or reading anything. Antifa is not supporting NAMBLA. Antifa is made up of a bunch of young sheep that probably don't work. Antifa is FUNDED by BAMN and from what some have found, NAMBLA ties. Antifa can not function without financial support. Ask yourself why BAMN is in the protestors signs? Ask why a former BAMN came out, speaking about how they snatch up runaways. It was here in a thread...READ for yourself.

And what studies are you quoting? From Tavistock? Do you know anything about Tavistock and their "studies" that is then given to the top prestigious schools in the US and spread as truth? And again, for the FOURTH time, I never said homosexuals do not deserve rights UNLESS it is used as a cover for PEDOS. You are beyond dense

Votescam ago

That's why there's a question mark after the sentence, as follows ...

You're suggesting that an Anti-fascist group is supporting an organization like NAMBLA which advocates sex with children younger than 16 years of age?>

If BAMN and NAMBLA are funding Antifa as you suggest above then Antifa is their organization and supporting them, whether that's public knowledge or not. Including the fact that you point out that BAMN is in Antifa's signs.

And you continue on and on again trying to connect homosexuals with pedophilia --

Here's the study I was referring to which makes clear that our sexual abusers of children are MALES and that they are heterosexual males.

**Focus on the Facts" -- Sean Cahill, PH.D

A 1998 Study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 90% of pedophiles are men, and 95% of these individuals are heterosexual.**

Research has indicated that gay men and lesbians are less likely than heterosexual to sexually abuse children.

Perhaps the most egregious and damaging claim promulgated by anti-gay groups is the claim that homosexuality is intrinsically linked to pedophilia and child sexual abuse. The social science research on sexual orientation and child sexual abuse clearly disproves the claim that homosexuals are more likely to molest children.

A 1998 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 90% of pedophiles are men, and 95% of these individuals are heterosexual. One researcher explained this statistic by noting, "Gay men desire consensual sexual relations with other adult men. Pedophiles are usually adult men who are sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children. They are rarely sexually attracted to other adults. In fact, research has indicated that gay men and lesbians are LESS likely than heterosexuals to sexually abuse children. Two studies that examined the sexual orientation of convicted child molesters found that less than 1% in one study and 0% in the other were lesbian or gay. One psychologist reviewed the existing social science literature on the relationship between sexuality and child sexual abuse and found that "a gay man is no more likely than a straight man to perpetrate sexual activity with children." Further, "cases of perpetration of sexual behavior with a pre-pubescent child by an adult lesbian are virtually nonexistent."

Gay rights activists, like all advocates for children's welfare, oppose child sexual abuse and support equitable age of consent laws that help prevent and punish such abuse.

At least 110,000 children are waiting to be adopted in the US. Approximately 588,00 children are currently in foster care. Barring gay men and lesbians from adopting or foster parenting decreases the number of potential suitable homes for children in need.

Children who remain in foster care for much of their childhood, as do tens of thousands of American children, are more likely to have emotional problems. Some children in foster care live in 20 or more homes by the time they reach the age of 18. Barring gay men and lesbians from adopting or foster parenting is not simply unjust and unethical; it also decreases the number of potential suitable homes for children in need.

Research shows that children raised by gay and lesbian parents are not disadvantaged vis-a-vis their peers raised by heterosexual parents.

Footnote 65 -- p.123

A review of 352 medical records of children evaluated for sexual abuse during a 12-month period at a Denver children's hospital found that less than 1% had been abused by a gay man or a lesbian. Of 269 adult perpetrators of child abuse identified among the 352 cases of abuse, only two were gay or lesbian. The vast majority of the children in the study (82%) "were suspected of being abused by a man or a woman who was, or had been, in a heterosexual relationship with a relative of the child." And the review concluded that in this sample, " a child's risk of being molested by his or her relative's heterosexual partner is over 100X greater [than the risk of being molested] by someone who might be identifiable as being homosexual, lesbian, or bisexual."

Jenny, C., and Roesler, T.A. (1994)

Are children at risk for sexual abuse by homosexuals? Pediatrics. 94(1).p.44.

In an earlier study of convicted male child molesters in Massachusetts, none of the 175 men were found to have an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation or to be primarily attracted to other adult men.

Groth, A.N., and Birnbaum, H.J. (1978).

Adult sexual orientation and attraction to underage persons.

Archives of Sexual Behavior.7(3).pp.175-181.

Also : The right-wing "Family Research Council" notes/confirms findings that "almost all child sexual abuse is committed by men."