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Lonesome_Pizza ago

How can an atheist justify that pedophilia is objectively wrong, if we are just random stardust raping another form of random stardust?

equineluvr ago

Oh puhleez. No particular religious group has a monopoly on virtues and morals.

mudbear ago

Not what he was saying. Theists have a blunt doctrine that explicitly states what is moral and what is not, the standard is set against their deity, whether right or wrong their moral point of view is objective and applies to all, whereas there is no central form of morality in atheism, morality is subjective, which means anything goes, if i believe raping kids is a OK, then who are you to say otherwise? (I dont btw). This is a philosophical problem that arises with atheism, and this is going to be the argument moving forward that will be pushed to normalize pedophillia, mark my words.

3141592653 ago

I don't think there's a link between atheism and acceptance of pedophilia. Some of the worst offenders have been the Catholic church and other organized religious institutions

mudbear ago

It is important to understand why that is the case. My view on this is that priests dont become pedophiles but rather pedophiles become priests. Priests are highly trusted members of their communities with a lot of respect and authority, they also generally have access to children, this position would make a perfect cover for a child molester. Also there is a tradition in catholic comunities where if the parents suspected their child of any perversions they would force them to become priests, hoping that a religious lifestyle would cure them.

I wasnt trying to state that atheism supports pedophillia and that atheists are the ones promoting it, but rather moral subjectivists would, and atheism tends to support subjectivism more than objectivism which religions tend to support.

Not saying atheism or theism is better than the other, this is more an argument about subjectivism (morality is decided by me and only applies to me) and objectivism (morality is universal and applies to all), subjective morality allows pedophillia, while objective morality doesnt.

3141592653 ago

I hear where you're coming from, for sure