This thread is directly related to PG since there have been allegations that the British royals are implicated in pedophilia and in occult practices
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1788465
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JNcko6dMizw&feature=youtu.be
A recent thread, has established an ancestry connection between an 18th century Jewish kabbalist, Moshe Chaim Luzzatto and some of the PG protagonists.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1786134
This discussion demonstrates a genealogical link between the British royal family and another 18th century kabbalist, known as Baal Shem Tov. A quick genealogy search shows that the Windsors seems to be blood-related to Baal Shem Tov an Ashkenazi Jewish mystic, born in today’s Poland. Baal Shem Tov is considered as the founder of the Chassidism and revered as one of holiest Jewish mystics by the Chabad movement. Here is more about him:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal_Shem_Tov
The link between the Baal Shem and the British Royals is Julia Hauke.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia,_Princess_of_Battenberg
Julia Hauke became princess of Battenberg and all her 5 children were princes and princesses of Battenberg. One of them, Louis of Battenberg, married a granddaughter of Queen Victoria, thus becoming the grandfather of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, consort of Queen Elizabeth II https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Louis_of_Battenberg
According to the genealogical site https://www.geni.com, Julia Hauke‘s great-grandfather (on the maternal line) is the rabbi Nachman of Breslov, himself a great son of Bal Shem Tov.
Here is the the entire genealogy tree (please archive the links if you know how).
Julia/Golda Broida/Von Hauke
https://www.geni.com/people/Julia-Golda/6000000013175615059
Julia Hauke's mother - Feiga Horodenker Brody
https://www.geni.com/people/Feiga-Brody/6000000013175892660
Julia Hauke's grand-mother - Eidel Udil Horodenker
https://www.geni.com/people/Eidel-Horodenker/6000000000348840325
Julia Hauke's great grand-father Nachman of Breslov, himself a great-son of Baal Shem Tov
https://www.geni.com/people/Rabbi-Nachman-Mi-Breslev/297815449410004082
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nachman_of_Breslov
To recap, the current Royal families of Great Britain and Spain descend directly from an Ashkenazi kabbalist.
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nomorepepperoni ago
Interesting connections, BUT other than tracking down other relatives, how does this help us exactly? I hope you aren't trying to say this is significant because "JOOS". ELI5.
ArmedExorcist ago
Uncovering the connections between pedophilia and occult/satanic practices is crucial in understanding what's going on. There seems to be a strong correlation between power (political, media, cultural, financial etc.) and pedophilia. So much is clear: "child-abuse" is at the core of satanism. No matter what any particular satanic cult call itself, it's usually perpetuated as a "tradition", going down from one generation to the next. Child abuse is "hereditary" also in the sense that it generates its own cycle of self-perpetuation. No way to understand the present if we don't understand the past. Should we limit ourselves to investigating catholics, masons, CIA, and generic illuminati, while giving kabbalists a pass over (so to speak)? If some passages in the talmud expressly authorize pedophilia (with boys under 9, girls as young as 3 etc.), it's not anti-semitic to point this out. When it comes to exposing child-abusers no one should be off limits.
UglyTruth ago
The connection between pedophilia and power is that sexual response and social dominance are both behaviors which are controlled by the reptilian complex of the triune brain model. Whenever the reptilian complex dominates over the the limbic system and the neocortex the survival behaviors must be expressed; in this context paedophilia is simply the expression of sexual response combined with an extreme form of social dominance.
In Hebrew idiom the heart is the seat of both the intellect and the emotions, i.e it represents the behaviors governed by the limbic system and the neocortex, i.e. paedophilia isn't compatible with a properly functioning "heart".
ArmedExorcist ago
A physiological explanation has its place. The problem is that it doesn't go far enough. If your contention is that pedophilia is just a chemical imbalance and another form of heart/body disfunction, you are leaving out human agency. Not so fast. Child sacrifice is as old as humanity itself. Historically, it's been even frequently institutionalized. Among others, by ancient Israelite rulers as well. After looking in horror at the persistence of child abuse throughout the centuries, I'm more and more inclined to think that pedophilia is the ultimate deal (with satan/lucifer/devil, ... fill in a dark deity), to reject G_d. Hurting or corrupting an innocent child is the definition of absolute evil. And since the absolute evil is a reality we observe daily, G_d must be equally real. In case you are not convinced, I suggest you take a closer look at the esoteric ramblings of satanists such as Alister Crowley. To be defeated, evil should be recognized for what it is. Then confronted and annihilated.
UglyTruth ago
The value of the physiological model is that it maps directly into the natural heart of man (but not the human heart, which is driven only by emotion and is devoid of reason). The human condition most probably arose in Rome, but humanism has met with much success in convincing people that the condition is a universal one.
http://forum.clonehost.net/topic/20/humanism
Evil cannot be defeated but it can be avoided.
nomorepepperoni ago
Fair, but let's also remember not all Jews are into the Talmud, either. What you describe sounds like an extremist, twisted interpretation of a religious teaching to suit their sick purposes. It's like a Jewish form of ISIS, but with child rape instead of beheadings. Religion can be weaponized into a dark, brainwashing force, especially from a position of trust.
That said, sometimes people are just sick, depraved, psychopaths who harbor no compassion, empathy, nor morals--or, in fact, corrupted versions of such concepts. There is no objective reasoning for their actions, only excuses for their behavior or rationalizations to themselves, at best. These are the darkest of our species, and are nearly impossible for a normal member of the species to accept as being in existence.
ArmedExorcist ago
Absolutely. Besides, not even all talmudic jews have necessarily heard of Sanh. 55a, 69b etc. (the particular passages justifying pedophilia). It's important to understand that to satanists, child-abuse is a "sacrament" of sorts (supposedly) conferring to them power, fame, money and other worldly benefits. Pursuing those is not an irrational behavior. It's the act of desecration of G_d through hurting a child that is inherently, absolutely and irredeemably evil.