followthemoney ago

Loves father worked in army psyops and managed grateful dead.

He had an understudy Guitar player for sound garden who played guitar and funded first nirvana album. That dude left nirvana sound garden and grunge scent to join special forces.

Intelligence community uses these scenes as drug networking machines. Grateful dead for LSD grunge for heroin. In the background of these bands is a multimillion drug trade that surpasses the record sales but you can push it all harder when you control the media machine that promotes your records.

madhatter67 ago

One of the most personally disturbing parts of all this for me is it's connections to the original riot grrrl movement, something that I was very much involved with 25 odd years ago....it was a scene that was pretty much based around teenage girls making their own art....some of those people now seem to be involved in the DC/seattle/portland pedosatanist art world....some of the names that have cropped up here I actually knew back then.....

I'm still working out what that connection means....certainly looking back there was some stuff in common with the pizza music scene....though it was far more innocent and positive....that said there was always a focus on teen sexuality in riot grrrl....I believe originally it was just a DIY punk thing (remember this was before the internet...people had to make their own entertainment)...but the presence of young girls attracted both media attention, and "other" attention....some seem to have been sucked into something far darker in the time since....

The last couple of years have seen me reevaluating a lot about my worldview, this part really hits close to home though....strangely I found a box of fanzines and the like from those days in my garage recently....I shall be revisiting them to see if it helps me make more sense of this...it's a strange feeling, maybe having been around at the start of this "culture" (though of course, the pedo connections go back much further into music history)

witch_doctor1 ago

Did you meet Kathleen Hannah? I really like her music, although I disagree with her politics, I have much respect for her talent....I just discovered her music about 2 years ago because of a random Google search, I had always wondered who the cutie dancing in the Bull in the Heather video was. My other music video crush (the hottie in the Bust a Move video) didn't go on to do much.

madhatter67 ago

And as for music crushes....I'm a bit older than you i think....Debby Harry or Toni basil

witch_doctor1 ago

BTW, have you checked out any of Kathleen Hannah's Julie Ruin album...kinda cool, she recorded it solo in her apartment, pretty sure this was post Le Tigre

witch_doctor1 ago

Dude, right there with you on Debbie Harrie...she was a smoke show back in the day..

madhatter67 ago

Nah....Never spoke to her...Though saw bikini kill a few times in pub venues when they came to the UK....And i do like what I've heard of le tigre....Also as far as I'm aware she has never gone down the dark route that some be from that scene have

witch_doctor1 ago

Cool that you saw Bikini Kill..yeah, it's weird that she's kind of into the victimology side of feminism, but was married to a Beastie Boy...

madhatter67 ago

It's all very strange...Those were fun times...But seems a long time ago...Especially knowing what i do now...I know I'm not alone in having my world flipped around by this pizza shit

FckPizza3 ago

I wonder if that's why her daughter wants nothing to do with her?

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