Mike Cernovich on the Alex Jones show. He says he had to break something big, like the Susan Rice story, in order to be able to break this pedo-ring story. Then he says.:
"There's two layers to this....I actually heard from the source, he told me that pizzagate was a distraction, and it was actually a false flag, a psychological operation run by deep state to get people focusing away from [unclear words] [Alex interrupts]..." https://youtu.be/n0N1K0ghNTI?t=18m22s
[Commentary: Knowingly or unknowingly, are they both being used by the deep state? I'm hearing limited hangout information, nothing new, much of it jumbled, interruptions by Alex to brag, and say stuff like "We're gonna run them over. Can you smell the blood, brother?"
Is the deep state leaking stuff to Cernovich that they want leaked? Who's to say it's not distraction and a psyop to get people focusing away from our pizzagate evidence? If our pizzagate investigation was actually a false flag by the powers-that- be, why did the powers-that-be go to such epic lengths to quiet us? We've NEVER seen them try to silence anything to the extent they've tried to silence us. They don't try to silence Alex Jones - they put him on blast when he denounced us. So who do you trust?]
FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds reveals pedophilia is used to blackmail politicians: https://youtu.be/q1LmN5zVlr8?t=17s
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rwb ago
Yesterday you were a big supporter of Cernovich. Does this mean you've changed your mind?
V____Z ago
My friend, the truth is not found in dichotmies - it is found in the shades of grey. Let's keep our eyes open, as others here are saying. There are no heroes, nor is everything Alex ever touched demonized by association. I told you this yesterday, please stop harassing me and just focus on the content of the arguments and info.
I was never a supporter of Cernovich, i'm just announcing pertinent pizzagate related information.
rwb ago
Your objective to this point at VOAT with respect to Jones has been to prove he is working for the CIA to cover up child sex slavery, and the claim is an abomination and demonstrably incorrect. The truth is, for some twenty-two years, Jones has committed unprecedented hours of terrestrial radio broadcasting time to telling the story of satanic child sex slavery, and he has had virtually every important researcher on as a guest to help further the cause, whether it's Gunderson, Passio, Icke, Edmonds, etc. Jones is a hero for doing this. Further, Jones went at the PG story very strongly until IW reporter was hoodwinked by a fake menu with maimed children for sale, at which point he was forced to make a change. Why would he go at the story in the first place if his sole job was to cover for it? Maybe because the simplest explanation is the correct one, namely that he fell for a trap, and had no alternative.
If you call challenging your propaganda war against Jones harassment, you do not understand what you are doing. I am a sporting fellow. Back off on the attacks under the advice of a fellow Christian who knows more about Jones's heart than you do, and I'll stop confronting you at every turn. Let him work any angle of child sex slavery he can for the time being unmolested by you.
V____Z ago
You're wrong about Jones, and you refuse to look at the evidence. My thoughts about him are mirrored by many others. They are not personal, they are in keeping with my goal to help this investigation and the children.
rwb ago
You're wrong when you think you're a Christian at heart. You and I had a lengthy private conversation at my initiative about the savage attacks on David Seaman. You told me you know Seaman better than 99% of the people posting things about him, having followed him on Twitter for many years prior. You said it was all lies and fabrication. I believed David, and I trusted your confirmation.
Now I am telling you that I know Jones better than 99% of the people viciously attacking him, including you, and you can't extend a modicum of consideration that I have studied all of the (mis)information you cite over and over again, and much of it is fabricated, embellished, and groomed for purpose in exactly the same way all of the information about DS was fabricated, embellished, and groomed for purpose. You extend no remotely similar courtesy to me as I extended to you. You're a hypocrite of an extraordinary kind.
20Justice4All17 ago
I just want to say I respect both of you as researchers and commenters. I don't know Jones or Cernovich that well. I am glad they both seem to be going after the Pedo elite. It seems like what is missing in all this is any hard evidence. I was and am confused by AJ and DS backing off CPP, but I believe there is some kind of coordinated effort by the good guys to expose this. I tend to think AJ is a good guy who is slowly being let in on the facts of this. Idk? It seems like there is more than meets the eye with CPP and bests pizza. We need hard evidence!
V____Z ago
Thank you. David didn't back off, he holds these guys to task here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oZ--9GiwWk
We won't get hard evidence by running to California and declaring Alefantis innocent, as Alex is doing.
20Justice4All17 ago
If I recall DS does not mention JA at all in this video. Again, I am puzzling over AJ. Clearly CPP is a hot pedo mess. But AJ, Craig Sawyer, and Mike Cernovich are not backing off of even bigger fish than CPP which creates more of an enigma. I cannot write off AJ even though I don't understand his stance with CPP.
Cara_C ago
The big fish - the elitist pedophile satanists who control much of the world - can start to be glimpsed through the window Podesta and Comet Ping Pong opened up. Alex Jones and Mike Cernovich are telling us not to look there, but to switch our focus to some unnamed people in the Deep State who are blackmailing and controlling innocent politicians who actually have no sexual interest in children, but were set up. With all we've learned by looking into Podesta, Comet Ping Pong, and their many connections to pedophiles and satanists, we absolutely should not be looking away from them, and I'm suspicious of the motivation of anyone who tries to label them as distractions.