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AreWeSure ago

Hi,

I know you hate the woman but these are not the facts of the case.

The reason the guy got a lighter sentence was it was a plea bargain deal. He reached a deal with the prosecutor to plead guility in exchange fore a 5 year term. That's a fairly reasonable term on a plea. The judge later reduced this sentence.

The reason the prosecutor agreed to plea was he had a weak case and it wasn't a sure thing they would convict the guy and the girls family was eager to wrap everything up quickly. The family did not want a trial.

It was weak for the following reasons. The police believed the girl lied during parts of her story, which at best, was inconsistent. It was unclear how she would come across as a witness. Her family was determined to not have her testify anyway.

Another weakens was the prosecution didn't have any physical evidence tying the guy to the crime scene. He claims he left a party with the girl, and his 20 year cousin, then they picked up a 15 boy, got some drinks, then he drove everyone home. He claimed never to have stopped in ravine by the highway where the incident was said to take place (The 15 year boy was charged as an underage offender.) Without physical evidence it would have been a he said/she said thing. The case becomes a lot stronger if they could prove he was there.

They had his underwear with blood on them. When Clinton asked to do an independent test, the gave her the underpants back with a hole cut out of them. And no blood on them. When they tested them they cut out the bloody part, tested it and threw it away. There was no way to test them again.

All the things about the woman said about Clinton putting her through hell, should be looked at with a very, skeptical eye. The woman has come forward publicly and we can identify her as Kathy Shelton. There's a lot of reasons to doubt Kathy Shelton when she said Hillary Clinton put her through hell.

The first is Kathy Shelton first learned that Clinton asked for an psychiatric evaluation of her in 2008. She never knew about the affadavit Clinton filed which a pretrial motion filed wth the judge. When first interviewed in 2008, she said she had no problems with Hillary Clinton. The article you quoted refers to this as "a contested, short interaction with a reporter in 2008," Here's the article from 2008, there's plenty of details from the woman. It seems like a carefully reported article.

With all the anguish she’d felt over the case in the years since, there was one thing she never realized — that the lawyer for the man she reviles *was none other than Hillary Rodham Clinton.

“I have to understand that she was representing Taylor,” she said when interviewed in prison last fall. “I’m sure Hillary was just doing her job.”*

In 2005, while working in a laundry, the victim stole several hundred dollars worth of checks from her boss to buy drugs. She is now living in a halfway house and looking for work.

Despite these problems, she bears Hillary Rodham Clinton no ill will and was eager to read “Living History” — at least pages 72 and 73, which contain her case.

Kathy Shelton seems to confusing the cops and the prosecution's interactions with her with Clinton's. The case never went to trial so Clinton never cross-examined her, the lie detector tests the girl underwent were not asked for by Clinton. And she didn't under the pyschatric evaluation Clinton requested because the judge rejected her affadavit. . This is why she didn't even know about this until 2008. If that affadavit contains lies, they were not Clinton's. As Clinton wrote, she was "informed of this info." It could have been by her client or his family saying this. (they knew the girl previously.) There's nothing unethical about filing that affidavit and relaying any accusation her client made. And as the 2008 article makes clear, there is nothing unethical about a defense lawyer defended their client. In fact, it is considered profeesional misconduct for a lawyer not to vigorously defend her client. That's how our system works. Her legal obligations were to her client. The judge and the jury are in charge of justice. But when the state is trying to take someone's liberty away that person is presumed innoncent and has the right to the best defense possible.

“She was vigorously advocating for her client. What she did was appropriate,” said Andrew Schepard, director of Hofstra Law School’s Center for Children, Families and the Law.

The 2008 article gets one thing wrong. We now know the examination Clinton requested, because lasst year a lawyer found the original files

But the court docket, unearthed by Pittsburgh attorney Norma Chase and for the first time made public, shows that one day after Clinton filed a request for psychiatric exam, it was denied by the judge. The court docket for July 28 says Clinton filed her motion for an exam. On July 29, it states: “Hearing on Motion for Psychiatric Examination — Motion denied. Defendant objects.” (There is also no evidence that Clinton was responsible for arranging Shelton’s polygraph test.)

When Clinton was interviewed years later about this case. She did not laugh at the woman. She laughed at the state of justice in Arkansas in the mid-70s, especially for a woman lawyer. They did not want to give her the evidence in the case because it was underwear. When the prosecutor was going to relay the details of the assault, he wanted her to leave the room because a woman shouldn't hear those things. And she laughed about the reliability of lie detector tests since her client who plead guilty passed his. The reporter who interviewed her said this

As far as her laughing, God knows she was not laughing over the notion that this rapist was going to go free," said Reed. “I challenge any fair-minded reader of that transcript to make a case that Hillary Rodham was a coldblooded lawyer who was laughing over the plight of the 12-year-old rape victim."

TL/DR Clinton didn't take this case. The court appointed her because the guy wanted a woman lawyer. She asked to be removed. The judge refused. She didn't put the woman through an ordeal. The case was weak and led to a plea bargain. She didn't laugh at the victim. What she did do was shortly after this case she helped establish the first rape crisis hotline in Arkansas.

When that Washington Post article came out, Shelton changed her claims.

After this column appeared, Shelton’s gofundme site was substantially revised, with all references to an alleged psychiatric exam and the polygraph test removed.

pizzaequalspedo ago

Long history with Hillary blaming the women victim or siding with the rapist, including her husband.

Let's face it, Hillary is the scum of the earth. Americans simply couldn't stomach someone as corrupt as her running this country. So much so that several Blue states went red for the fist time in decades.