Hello! I'm not a mod over on r/conspiracy or r/pedogate. I assure you that I'm the same person. Any change in personality you might have noticed may be due to having to take on the attitude of a mod instead of a primary investigator.
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I need to remove this. Please repost in v/pizzagatemods. You'll also find a post there discussing new shill tactics, in which a number of non-shill users have been pinged. You can read their comment histories and gain a sense for yourself whether they are legit users like you. :-) There are plenty of folks here working hard to document things and spread them. We remove a good portion of the shill posts because they violate the submission guidelines.
@abortionburger made her FB private because she has been stalked ever since that post by a certain shill on this site who is still constantly trying to dox her under different alts. He has been banned from Reddit for it. Her account has not been "taken over". That's just more of the lame-ass "Pizzagate mods are disinfo shills" meme the obsessed ArmySeer spews without any evidence presented. He's got a whole subverse dedicated to it.
I respect the post... but if a shill called a shill a shill, then wouldn't the shill want to see the social shill account that the shill originally posts on, being that they are a shill?
Point being... the proof is in the pudding. Concrete posts will stand the test of time, as will concrete comments. Over time, the shill game will completely fall apart as more comes to light.
Unless this entire PG realm is pure coincidence, and WE are actually the shills... being shilled by double-shills in an attempt to bring us back to reality.
Psssshhh,
What a shill thing to say,
Shillingly yours,
Shill
Is it? I mean, if a bunch of pedo-creeps put their details out in put their stuff out there for the world to see that's pretty much their problem, isn't it.
I really wish I could know who that poster is because he is everywhere posting the same stuff. Although it could be a team of shills that have similar names.
Lol. Check the ban list. He has dozens of names. A better question is, why aren't more people downvoating him? That's how Voat is designed to handle such things.
Nope. I did the debunking myself in a conversation with another mod.
Name something and I can probably provide a more sensible and alternative explanation, and tell you why the sticky is (possibly deliberately) ignoring contradictory information.
I'll give you a freebee: The Arch of Hysteria is not in the same pose as the body in the photograph Jeffery Dahmer took of his victim, and the photo was taken before the victim was beheaded. It's also impossible to understand how the artist of the statue (who has never stated that it was inspired by Dahmer) had access to police crime photos before the Internet, since the statue was sculpted in 1993.
And yet this is still used as "evidence". It's nonsense.
Same goes for the other "disturbing art". None of the actual fucked-up paintings from the one artist are in Podesta's house, but you use the other artwork she's created as evidence that Podesta is some kind of sick puppy.
Ridiculous. But hey, don't let me inspire you to change your information.
Why are you posting this? Has someone called you a shill? What thread? There is a lot of unessessary bullying and downvoating going on, it's making it really hard for new comers, probably why people are falling away from the site. We have to work together and be supportive so we don't see posts like this, I feel bad for you man, you shouldnt have to prove yourself to be real, this site was made for folks to be anonymous so people could talk about real shit, you know?
True but im also one oft he people who is suspicious of shills. So id like to know at least that there are some users who arent. Based on the front page always having threads seeming to be focused on distracting us I feel that most posters might be shills.
Interesting that you think most posts are disinfo/meant to distract. A positive way to handle this would be to create a Pizzagate Greatest Hits or MVP thread briefly describing and linking to all the posts you think AREN'T shill distraction posts, and then ask people to add their own in the comments.
Stalkers, mostly. And I'm very serious about privacy. It amazes me that people are comfortable posting so much of their lives on social media. It just freaks me out.
I have all of my closest friends on facebook. I only have a few so I really am okay with sharing personal info. Maybe you have a problem with stalkers because you might be a girl, I dont ever have this problem.
Who gives a fuck if someone else thinks you're a "shill"? Over half the user base calls anyone that doesn't agree with every post a shill anyway. There is no way to prove someone is or isn't either way so just save yourself the time and ignore them.
+1. Don't worry about these assholes trying to instigate strife, intentionally or otherwise. Not worth the time or expense we could be spending brainstorming leads and means to raise awareness.
Don't you hate that? This is supposed to be an anonymous site and people constantly call you shills or trolls. Amazing. I think they are the shills trying to dissuade you from joining. Good luck! Don't let them keep you down. We need people to understand, repost and help in investigating. And you are a handsome young dude! :) Don't let the bastards keep you down. I am certainly not! Call me what you want, but if I can save a kids life or make people aware of the problem than I've done my job. Good luck!!
PrideOfOshtekk ago
OP thinks he is Head Investigator and everyone should do as he says.
In other words: OP is basically a poor version of the elites we despise.
MostPostersAreShills ago
Yeah it is shut up its so obvious.
abortionburger ago
That is correct. I figured I'd throw my hat into the ring. I haven't offered at r/pedogate, they're handling posts just fine over there.
abortionburger ago
Hello! I'm not a mod over on r/conspiracy or r/pedogate. I assure you that I'm the same person. Any change in personality you might have noticed may be due to having to take on the attitude of a mod instead of a primary investigator.
Vindicator ago
@MostPostersAreShills: this is a perfectly legit conversation -- but not for the research sub. This belongs in v/pizzagatemods:
I need to remove this. Please repost in v/pizzagatemods. You'll also find a post there discussing new shill tactics, in which a number of non-shill users have been pinged. You can read their comment histories and gain a sense for yourself whether they are legit users like you. :-) There are plenty of folks here working hard to document things and spread them. We remove a good portion of the shill posts because they violate the submission guidelines.
Vindicator ago
@abortionburger made her FB private because she has been stalked ever since that post by a certain shill on this site who is still constantly trying to dox her under different alts. He has been banned from Reddit for it. Her account has not been "taken over". That's just more of the lame-ass "Pizzagate mods are disinfo shills" meme the obsessed ArmySeer spews without any evidence presented. He's got a whole subverse dedicated to it.
SoSpricyHotDog ago
I respect the post... but if a shill called a shill a shill, then wouldn't the shill want to see the social shill account that the shill originally posts on, being that they are a shill?
Point being... the proof is in the pudding. Concrete posts will stand the test of time, as will concrete comments. Over time, the shill game will completely fall apart as more comes to light.
Unless this entire PG realm is pure coincidence, and WE are actually the shills... being shilled by double-shills in an attempt to bring us back to reality.
Psssshhh,
What a shill thing to say, Shillingly yours, Shill
dookiehowzer ago
BILL CLINTON IS A RAPIST
MostPostersAreShills ago
I cant find the post.
SayWhatNOWAY ago
We can usually sniff out a shill😉
MostPostersAreShills ago
Are you admitting to being one?
SayWhatNOWAY ago
Read my posts!
MyNameIsLuka ago
Is it? I mean, if a bunch of pedo-creeps put their details out in put their stuff out there for the world to see that's pretty much their problem, isn't it.
MostPostersAreShills ago
Lol I had a feeling someone would think that. Its just DJ Khaleds son hes a nice kid cmon.
PizzaGateTwiceRetard ago
You expect me to believe that?
That guy is in the entertainment industry! He's an honorary pedophile already. I bet he has access to all sorts of kids.
You sick freak!
MyNameIsLuka ago
And you just found the shill.
MostPostersAreShills ago
I really wish I could know who that poster is because he is everywhere posting the same stuff. Although it could be a team of shills that have similar names.
Vindicator ago
Lol. Check the ban list. He has dozens of names. A better question is, why aren't more people downvoating him? That's how Voat is designed to handle such things.
PizzaGateTwiceRetard ago
A better question is why don't you update your sticky posts when things get debunked?
Vindicator ago
Oh? Was something debunked? What? Gotta link?
PizzaGateTwiceRetard ago
Nope. I did the debunking myself in a conversation with another mod.
Name something and I can probably provide a more sensible and alternative explanation, and tell you why the sticky is (possibly deliberately) ignoring contradictory information.
I'll give you a freebee: The Arch of Hysteria is not in the same pose as the body in the photograph Jeffery Dahmer took of his victim, and the photo was taken before the victim was beheaded. It's also impossible to understand how the artist of the statue (who has never stated that it was inspired by Dahmer) had access to police crime photos before the Internet, since the statue was sculpted in 1993.
And yet this is still used as "evidence". It's nonsense.
Same goes for the other "disturbing art". None of the actual fucked-up paintings from the one artist are in Podesta's house, but you use the other artwork she's created as evidence that Podesta is some kind of sick puppy.
Ridiculous. But hey, don't let me inspire you to change your information.
LargePepperoni ago
This could be opposition research. Be careful.
MostPostersAreShills ago
Whats that?
LargePepperoni ago
Meaning that you might be trying to get user to leak personal info for nefarious purposes. It's best that everyone remains anon.
Honeybee_ ago
Why are you posting this? Has someone called you a shill? What thread? There is a lot of unessessary bullying and downvoating going on, it's making it really hard for new comers, probably why people are falling away from the site. We have to work together and be supportive so we don't see posts like this, I feel bad for you man, you shouldnt have to prove yourself to be real, this site was made for folks to be anonymous so people could talk about real shit, you know?
MostPostersAreShills ago
True but im also one oft he people who is suspicious of shills. So id like to know at least that there are some users who arent. Based on the front page always having threads seeming to be focused on distracting us I feel that most posters might be shills.
Vindicator ago
Interesting that you think most posts are disinfo/meant to distract. A positive way to handle this would be to create a Pizzagate Greatest Hits or MVP thread briefly describing and linking to all the posts you think AREN'T shill distraction posts, and then ask people to add their own in the comments.
MyNameIsLuka ago
I get where you are coming from, but no one here should be putting stuff on here that can doxx them.
MostPostersAreShills ago
Its okay I dont have my real name on anything on the internet usually.
MyNameIsLuka ago
Lol, I'm such a paranoia case that I don't even have a social media account that isn't anonymous. I deleted my Facebook account five years ago!
MostPostersAreShills ago
What are you paranoid of?
MyNameIsLuka ago
Stalkers, mostly. And I'm very serious about privacy. It amazes me that people are comfortable posting so much of their lives on social media. It just freaks me out.
MostPostersAreShills ago
I have all of my closest friends on facebook. I only have a few so I really am okay with sharing personal info. Maybe you have a problem with stalkers because you might be a girl, I dont ever have this problem.
Long_Knife ago
Who gives a fuck if someone else thinks you're a "shill"? Over half the user base calls anyone that doesn't agree with every post a shill anyway. There is no way to prove someone is or isn't either way so just save yourself the time and ignore them.
MostPostersAreShills ago
Over half of the users very well might be shills. So id like to at least confirm that a few of them arent.
PrideOfOshtekk ago
That self importance though.
Long_Knife ago
The point is you can't confirm it.
MostPostersAreShills ago
We can get close enough to half confirm it.
Long_Knife ago
That is called guessing.
nomorepepperoni ago
+1. Don't worry about these assholes trying to instigate strife, intentionally or otherwise. Not worth the time or expense we could be spending brainstorming leads and means to raise awareness.
Saibra ago
Don't you hate that? This is supposed to be an anonymous site and people constantly call you shills or trolls. Amazing. I think they are the shills trying to dissuade you from joining. Good luck! Don't let them keep you down. We need people to understand, repost and help in investigating. And you are a handsome young dude! :) Don't let the bastards keep you down. I am certainly not! Call me what you want, but if I can save a kids life or make people aware of the problem than I've done my job. Good luck!!
MostPostersAreShills ago
Thanks