These associates of Alefantis have the same weird shit. Sick, oerverted, occult references... and kids / dolls / babies. No fucking way Alefantis is innocent. Too much weirdness associated with him in every direction, in the life he built, in the people and things he associates himself with.
I think he might be a facilitator only maybe. Maybe not. I keep harping back to his seeming need to point out to Ryan that he doesn't like kids, the context and all ... he was rightfully correcting Ryan on some other things ... JA thought it would remain an anonymous conversation, and he was confidentially entrusting Ryan with personal info about himself, that he was just a proud fag but not a pedophile. dunno
Right of course. By "not liking kids" of course I'm meaning in a sexual way, sexual preferences (gross to even have to say that).
In effect, "I'm proud to be a straight-up homo, I don't do kids." ("I do broker them though but I'm not going to tell YOU that, Ryan.") Just trying to figure it out. What he said to Ryan, confidentially, struck me as weird.
You're quoting him and assuming that what you would mean is what he meant, though he never said that. He's cheeky that way. It's double speak. Ryan could have easily followed that up with "OK, so you don't like kids "at all". But do you like to torture them, sometimes with your dick?"
Yeah I know where this quote comes from, Ryan's convo with JA. I'm just saying, I don't see any reason to conflate "i don't like children at all" with "therefore i would certainly never rape one".
From what i've been told, raping has nothing to so with sex, really, and it sure doesn't require liking the victim - this is where i'm coming from.
I understand what you're saying. Rape, though, does have to do with sex, Ted Bundy can attest to that (but he's been fried) ... it would be a kind of love/hate situation. Men procure prostitutes all the time that they can't stand but they fill a need. They're despised afterwards. I sat in w/ some creeps who were seriously thinking about raping a college girl because she was "hot." They were serious. I dismissed myself. People get off on snuff films sexually. Ted Bundy would/could only "finish" as he watched the life slip from his victims. It's sick.
Edit: I got very involved with the Dean Corll murder case (30 young boys in Houston) for certain reasons, in the late '70s. He tortured the kids, did his twisted sexual thing w/ them, then killed them and buried them in different places, mainly a storage shed. Sex was indeed a big part of the whole thing.
Rape is a particularly difficult crime because it's about both power and violence. Rapists use sex organs as the locus of their violence, but rape isn't about sex, at least not in the sense of being motivated by sexual attraction or an uncontrollable sexual urge.
But I don't expect others to share this opinion...
I think the best way to think of it is it is an addiction, like any sinful addiction ... one may think of a druggie or gambler who robs to feed their habit, "adding thirst to drunkenness" as they say. Certainly not a mutually exclusive thing. The depravity of man knows no bounds when soul and conscience restraints are removed.
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RedGreenAlliance ago
These associates of Alefantis have the same weird shit. Sick, oerverted, occult references... and kids / dolls / babies. No fucking way Alefantis is innocent. Too much weirdness associated with him in every direction, in the life he built, in the people and things he associates himself with.
bopper ago
I think he might be a facilitator only maybe. Maybe not. I keep harping back to his seeming need to point out to Ryan that he doesn't like kids, the context and all ... he was rightfully correcting Ryan on some other things ... JA thought it would remain an anonymous conversation, and he was confidentially entrusting Ryan with personal info about himself, that he was just a proud fag but not a pedophile. dunno
V____Z ago
You would have to not like kids in order to rape (ruin) them though, just saying.
bopper ago
Right of course. By "not liking kids" of course I'm meaning in a sexual way, sexual preferences (gross to even have to say that).
In effect, "I'm proud to be a straight-up homo, I don't do kids." ("I do broker them though but I'm not going to tell YOU that, Ryan.") Just trying to figure it out. What he said to Ryan, confidentially, struck me as weird.
V____Z ago
You're quoting him and assuming that what you would mean is what he meant, though he never said that. He's cheeky that way. It's double speak. Ryan could have easily followed that up with "OK, so you don't like kids "at all". But do you like to torture them, sometimes with your dick?"
bopper ago
This statement of Alefantis' was in the text messages.
I'm probably not explaining myself very well anyway, and I knew I was on dangerous ground when I mentioned such a theory in this thread :)
Edit: Of course my "theory" would mean that it was not doublespeak.
V____Z ago
Yeah I know where this quote comes from, Ryan's convo with JA. I'm just saying, I don't see any reason to conflate "i don't like children at all" with "therefore i would certainly never rape one".
From what i've been told, raping has nothing to so with sex, really, and it sure doesn't require liking the victim - this is where i'm coming from.
bopper ago
I understand what you're saying. Rape, though, does have to do with sex, Ted Bundy can attest to that (but he's been fried) ... it would be a kind of love/hate situation. Men procure prostitutes all the time that they can't stand but they fill a need. They're despised afterwards. I sat in w/ some creeps who were seriously thinking about raping a college girl because she was "hot." They were serious. I dismissed myself. People get off on snuff films sexually. Ted Bundy would/could only "finish" as he watched the life slip from his victims. It's sick.
Edit: I got very involved with the Dean Corll murder case (30 young boys in Houston) for certain reasons, in the late '70s. He tortured the kids, did his twisted sexual thing w/ them, then killed them and buried them in different places, mainly a storage shed. Sex was indeed a big part of the whole thing.
V____Z ago
Here is what i mean:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/29/rape-about-power-not-sex
But I don't expect others to share this opinion...
bopper ago
I think the best way to think of it is it is an addiction, like any sinful addiction ... one may think of a druggie or gambler who robs to feed their habit, "adding thirst to drunkenness" as they say. Certainly not a mutually exclusive thing. The depravity of man knows no bounds when soul and conscience restraints are removed.