Alex Jones promised a big Pizzagate revelation that turned out to be merely his opinion that Pizzagate is a fake distraction away from the much bigger issue of global elite pedophilia (Pedogate).
https://youtu.be/AC_oEeubGus (comment comes at about the 1:10:30 mark)
Unfortunately, Mr. Jones makes the common mistake of thinking that just because he believes something, it is automatically the unvarnished truth. There is a problem with his analysis.
First, Pizzagate started with the discovery of strange coded language in the Podesta emails released by Wikileaks. This coded language was first brought to the fore by some astute netizens on 4 chan. Without the Podesta emails and without the observations by 4 chan researchers, the topic of Pizzagate would not exist and this discussion would not be occurring. So if Alex is correct, TPTB deliberately leaked Podesta's emails containing encoded pedophile language to Wikileaks with the intent for this coded language being discovered in order to distract the public away from global elite pedophile networks? That is utterly ludicrous! The overwhelming majority of people on this board would know absolutely nothing about global pedophile networks if it wasn't for the initial discoveries in the Podesta emails that sparked the Pizzagate discussion in the first place. The same could be said for the vast majority of red-pilled Pedogaters out there.
Questions to Mr. Jones:
If TPTB wanted to distract us away from the global elite pedophile networks, why would they do it by red- pilling the entire world about Pedogate? Why would they provide the initial Pizzagate bread crumbs that lead everyone directly to the topic of their debauchery?
It doesn't make any logical sense.
According to Mr. Jones' logic, this is what TPTB are up to:
"We don't want you looking at global elite pedophilia. So here all the clues you need to wake you up to the fact that there is such a thing as global elite pedophilia."
Before Podesta emails, 99.99% of the population had a vague notion that yes there are probably some perverts in high places but then again there are perverts in all walks of life. Not many people, however had even the slightest inkling of how vast and pervasive the problem really is. Now many people have been red pilled on this issue by Pizzagate.
If TPTB really didn't want us looking at Pedogate, why in the Hell would they wake us all up by giving us all the clues found in Pizzagate?
Alex Jones' flawed logic in a nutshell.
TPTB: "Don't you dare look at this."
Public: "Look at what? We don't have a clue about what we are not supposed to be looking at."
TPTB: "Oh sorry about that. Here are a bunch of hacked emails that give you everything you need to know to get you started on what you must not look at."
Public: " Oh okay thanks. We would never have known about global elite pedophilia without these clues you provided us. Thanks for pointing us in the right direction."
TPTB: "Fools! Ha Ha Ha"
Sorry Mr. Jones. This is extremely flawed logic. Better luck next time!
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rwb ago
The PTB never anticipated Podesta emails. However, once the ball started rolling, they managed to use CPP as ruse. On this point, Jones is absolutely correct, even if he's almost certainly wrong about Alefantis being innocent. The mainstream media managed to turn the entire narrative upside down and smash it to bits. There are millions of people who bought the PG is fake news story hook line and sinker. Surely you don't dispute that?
micha_ ago
This is all right and correct. But there is that new video from David Seaman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BW4E5RVVE4
Calling for an investigation of Podesta and Alefantis, as public figure, is very clever, not a ruse. Jones could interview Seaman without making Seamans opinions his own! Problem solved.
V____Z ago
You're assuming jones' goal to uncover the truth rather than that he is working for the deep state as controlled opposition meant to corral the free thinkers back to what the elite feel is safe - a limited hangout operation, if you will. Jones is CIA, which explains everything.
micha_ ago
Not convincing because Jones is responsible for successfully redpilling millions of people! It does not make sense to awake the masses against the global elite's plan. Without Jones no broad awareness of NWO, globalist plan, pedosatanic blackmail government, deep state, coming internet censorship to the USA, illegal spying, GMOs, vaccines.
V____Z ago
I'm not sure it's true that jones can be credited with all that, but have you ever looked into the definition of a limited hangout? They HAVE to put out mostly legit info that their target audience will be interested in. It's that little 5% of untruth that is the problem. And seriously, the well known facts he reiterates on his show do not excuse him for leading people astray. He is dangerous because he has successfully convinced many that he bows to truth above all. He's an agent of the deep state. He wouldn't be successful if he didn't give his audience anything to chomp on. I'm red piled af but I never found a need to get my info from jones. I can't stand his demon voice for more than one second. There are many truth tellers out there, but the ones with big million dollar studios, whose feeds never get fucked with as with other truthers, are people to stay away from - just like the young Turks. These people are sent into the alternative world to corral us, to steer us into safe areas, and away from anything that could actually challenge the elite. Case in point: Alex's warning to us to leave James Alefantis alone and be satisfied with letting jones take over, while he promises to focus on people who are dead or have already been busted. That's a limited hangout!
micha_ ago
That's your problem. You let feelings cloud your mind.
Show me where Jones has mislead people with his big topics and where he did not have redpilled people but herded them to the NWO, pedosatanic blackmail shadow government and the surveillance state.
It's almost ridiculous to write that, because it was Jones work that these things came into public's awareness.
Without Infowars there would be no Young Turks, no Vice, Snopes and all the other globalist fake platforms. They were created to counter the growing redpilling about globalism and the NWO by Infowars.
I also don't understand that hysteria, because Jones apologized to Alefantis. That's absurd. Let's see, what he will do instead and judge then.
V____Z ago
No, I let research guide my way, but I am not going to exclude the fact that he talks as if he's trying out for a role as a demon in some Broadway play.
Here is my research https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1618655
micha_ ago
I know that comment and had checked it myself. Jones has very plausibly explained where she came from and that she was working as art designer for them. Which is what she does today with her company.
There's no need to put energy in denouncing Infowars. Jones made a pledge to focus on Clinton foundation/Silsby/Epstein/child trafficking, based on things that are already proven. If he does not do so, he cannot be trusted - if he does, he's a hero.