I have listened to Alex spew his BS for years because my mother listened to him, among others, back when I was in my early teen years. (Sidenote: I always thought she was crazy until I was older and began to see shit for myself...funny how that works with our parents.) My problem with Alex isn't that he's a complete liar liar pants on fire, but that has been "preaching" for so long about the same shit just to get ppl all riled up, but then he never actually leads them to the battlefield and leaves all his followers on the precipice of "the truth"...which he hasn't ONCE reveled in the 20+ years I've known of him. Some days I still kind of like him, some days I cant stand his lunatic ravings, but with this matter in particular I think the people pulling Alex's puppet strings are definitely involved in these pedo rings and he is being shut-down and silenced more so than ever before.
Thank gawd you're paying attention, they kill your ass way before you get a fan base that big. Take a quick look at some of the pedogate journalists before this story broke...double tapped in the head suicides, blown up in cars, shot with heart attack gun, or poisoned with arsenic. Fucking wake up.
I don't think he was CIA in the beginning, but I do think he got into alt media because he saw the potential cash flow on the horizon. I do think he is a sellout and is now fully under elite control. The Ben Swann scenario intrigues me, but I haven't been able to get a moment to catch up a bit more on him. Has he taken a completely different opinion on PG now or is he just not saying anything further?
Last I heard, Ben Swann did show up to work the next Monday, though all his social media was deleted, and he was now the co-anchor, and very much in the background. I ca assure you he hasn't said anything about pizzagate since then.
What i truly believe, based on the fact that David Seaman for some reason feels safe tweeting what could be slanderous claims against Podesta et al, coupled with the attitude Ben Swann had when he left social media, and the hint he gave us, that this was some "Art of War" stuff going on, where you don't see the actual fight going on, and when he seemed very assured that we are winning. Based on this and David's claims that he has spoken with people inside the intel industry, contacts he made whilst reporting on the NSA, and that they say there are investigations going on as we speak, I believe that they know something we don't. David hasn't been sued for making claims of Alefantis' and Podesta's pedophilia - he knows that the intel agencies HAVE PROOF of it in their investigation, and that they can't take him to court because they'd be busted.
We know that the NYPD has the laptop of Weiner, which has all of Hillary's deleted emails on it, and leakers are coming out. the FBI met at the White House today, and Comey is being called out for not acting on the evidence they know he has.
Thanks! I am pretty caught up with him then, I was just curious if anything new happened. I like him a lot and truly hope he doesn't have a Michael Hastings type "accident".
I am fairly despondent...I guess the attitude has to be one of ultimate perseverance. I just hope the main players succeed, but there is a lot against them. I appreciate your analysis. It brings a measure of hope. What is your opinion on what Alex Jones is doing?
I think I just figured out what is going on. It hit me when I watched Random Rants of Ryan, who just did a piece on this. Alex (and Ryan) only gave ONE example of Alex's supposed pizzagate coverage (that he is currently apologizing for, or retracting) that was in error, only one thing that could possibly be actionable. That was the child porn story by Joe Biggs - however I don't believe that ever made it to infowars proper, it was just a tweet by Biggs, who was let go within 24 hours.
Furthermore, if insinuating or calling Alefantis a pedorapist is actionable, then David Seaman would also be looking at a lawsuit, no? But he is not. David has been calling them out and proving to us that they have no case by the very fact that they won't take him to court over it.
Alex never showed proof of any lawsuit. He insinuated heavily, and then flashed a folder, insinuating that inside was the lawsuit.
He is doing this alongside Alefantis on behalf of the deep state in order to scare everyone.
Question: it was the inconsistency with the singular example that could have caused trouble for him, but the fact that he let Biggs go, so wouldn't be liable, and then talking about it as if there were multiple reasons for him to grovel and retract. This is what raised red flags, why is he trying to make something big out of nothing? Why is he trying to puff up his case? He is lying. Why would he lie? Well if he is indeed CIA, and the CIA runs all the child trafficking, then he is being used to stop everyone from calling out the pedos, to strike fear in us EVEN THOUGH THEY DONT HAVE A CASE (they are guilty).
I understand your point of view. I hope the March is successful tomorrow. Some people say it's not about a lawsuit but a violent threat against his family and called him either pragmatic or a coward. I've also heard about his connections with the CIA via his family.
But With Flynn gone and now this it makes me wonder what Trump is planning to do. The intellegence hearing was lousy outside of Gowdy, but then Nunes comes out with proof that he doesn't share at today's new conference. Supposedly Comey just left the whitehouse.
i've got a sinking feeling that Trump is pretty much going to let everyone go. i've been cheering for him, and i've agreed with some things he's done, and i am grateful to have him vs Hillary, but he an elite, he invited the Clintons to his wedding, and it is the case that Bill Clinton encouraged him to run for president before he decided to. Why? Covering bases, or? I think that stuff is coming out, but that all the elites will be let off the hook, as Trump really isn't their enemy. I HATE to say this.
Yeah...I hear ya. Too good to be true. At least he isn't Hillary. The genie is out of the bottle though. They will contain it the. Eat they can and the Pedo's will regroup. Boy do I hate the media. Internet will eventually get censored to all hell. I just want those evil elite pedos to get theirs...is that selfish or wrong?
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UndEr_DistrEss ago
I have listened to Alex spew his BS for years because my mother listened to him, among others, back when I was in my early teen years. (Sidenote: I always thought she was crazy until I was older and began to see shit for myself...funny how that works with our parents.) My problem with Alex isn't that he's a complete liar liar pants on fire, but that has been "preaching" for so long about the same shit just to get ppl all riled up, but then he never actually leads them to the battlefield and leaves all his followers on the precipice of "the truth"...which he hasn't ONCE reveled in the 20+ years I've known of him. Some days I still kind of like him, some days I cant stand his lunatic ravings, but with this matter in particular I think the people pulling Alex's puppet strings are definitely involved in these pedo rings and he is being shut-down and silenced more so than ever before.
V____Z ago
He's always been CIA. If he was really anti-establishment, he would have been shut down a long time ago. See: Ben Swann
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1618655
FriesischShipping ago
Thank gawd you're paying attention, they kill your ass way before you get a fan base that big. Take a quick look at some of the pedogate journalists before this story broke...double tapped in the head suicides, blown up in cars, shot with heart attack gun, or poisoned with arsenic. Fucking wake up.
V____Z ago
EXACTLY
UndEr_DistrEss ago
I don't think he was CIA in the beginning, but I do think he got into alt media because he saw the potential cash flow on the horizon. I do think he is a sellout and is now fully under elite control. The Ben Swann scenario intrigues me, but I haven't been able to get a moment to catch up a bit more on him. Has he taken a completely different opinion on PG now or is he just not saying anything further?
V____Z ago
Last I heard, Ben Swann did show up to work the next Monday, though all his social media was deleted, and he was now the co-anchor, and very much in the background. I ca assure you he hasn't said anything about pizzagate since then.
What i truly believe, based on the fact that David Seaman for some reason feels safe tweeting what could be slanderous claims against Podesta et al, coupled with the attitude Ben Swann had when he left social media, and the hint he gave us, that this was some "Art of War" stuff going on, where you don't see the actual fight going on, and when he seemed very assured that we are winning. Based on this and David's claims that he has spoken with people inside the intel industry, contacts he made whilst reporting on the NSA, and that they say there are investigations going on as we speak, I believe that they know something we don't. David hasn't been sued for making claims of Alefantis' and Podesta's pedophilia - he knows that the intel agencies HAVE PROOF of it in their investigation, and that they can't take him to court because they'd be busted.
We know that the NYPD has the laptop of Weiner, which has all of Hillary's deleted emails on it, and leakers are coming out. the FBI met at the White House today, and Comey is being called out for not acting on the evidence they know he has.
It's getting good!
UndEr_DistrEss ago
Thanks! I am pretty caught up with him then, I was just curious if anything new happened. I like him a lot and truly hope he doesn't have a Michael Hastings type "accident".
20Justice4All17 ago
I am fairly despondent...I guess the attitude has to be one of ultimate perseverance. I just hope the main players succeed, but there is a lot against them. I appreciate your analysis. It brings a measure of hope. What is your opinion on what Alex Jones is doing?
V____Z ago
Based partially on this https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1618655 I believe this (written in an earlier comment):
I think I just figured out what is going on. It hit me when I watched Random Rants of Ryan, who just did a piece on this. Alex (and Ryan) only gave ONE example of Alex's supposed pizzagate coverage (that he is currently apologizing for, or retracting) that was in error, only one thing that could possibly be actionable. That was the child porn story by Joe Biggs - however I don't believe that ever made it to infowars proper, it was just a tweet by Biggs, who was let go within 24 hours.
Furthermore, if insinuating or calling Alefantis a pedorapist is actionable, then David Seaman would also be looking at a lawsuit, no? But he is not. David has been calling them out and proving to us that they have no case by the very fact that they won't take him to court over it.
Alex never showed proof of any lawsuit. He insinuated heavily, and then flashed a folder, insinuating that inside was the lawsuit.
He is doing this alongside Alefantis on behalf of the deep state in order to scare everyone.
Question: it was the inconsistency with the singular example that could have caused trouble for him, but the fact that he let Biggs go, so wouldn't be liable, and then talking about it as if there were multiple reasons for him to grovel and retract. This is what raised red flags, why is he trying to make something big out of nothing? Why is he trying to puff up his case? He is lying. Why would he lie? Well if he is indeed CIA, and the CIA runs all the child trafficking, then he is being used to stop everyone from calling out the pedos, to strike fear in us EVEN THOUGH THEY DONT HAVE A CASE (they are guilty).
20Justice4All17 ago
I understand your point of view. I hope the March is successful tomorrow. Some people say it's not about a lawsuit but a violent threat against his family and called him either pragmatic or a coward. I've also heard about his connections with the CIA via his family.
But With Flynn gone and now this it makes me wonder what Trump is planning to do. The intellegence hearing was lousy outside of Gowdy, but then Nunes comes out with proof that he doesn't share at today's new conference. Supposedly Comey just left the whitehouse.
V____Z ago
i've got a sinking feeling that Trump is pretty much going to let everyone go. i've been cheering for him, and i've agreed with some things he's done, and i am grateful to have him vs Hillary, but he an elite, he invited the Clintons to his wedding, and it is the case that Bill Clinton encouraged him to run for president before he decided to. Why? Covering bases, or? I think that stuff is coming out, but that all the elites will be let off the hook, as Trump really isn't their enemy. I HATE to say this.
20Justice4All17 ago
Yeah...I hear ya. Too good to be true. At least he isn't Hillary. The genie is out of the bottle though. They will contain it the. Eat they can and the Pedo's will regroup. Boy do I hate the media. Internet will eventually get censored to all hell. I just want those evil elite pedos to get theirs...is that selfish or wrong?
V____Z ago
Nothing could be more right. The media will pay for the evil they promote.
sugarskull ago
I thought about the same thing. Ben was avoiding this same thing and was scared enough to make it a permanent thing, no?