Too bad the mods decided to not support this event. I understand their reasoning but don't agree with it. There will always be a risk that some people try to hijack a movement and derail it... it's not a reason to discourage good and honest people to attend this event.
I don't live near this area at all and it is physically impossible for me to attend, but I wish there will be a huge turnout.
Oh and by the way God just called and confirmed his presence.
I don't think the establishment will do anything to derail it. Why would they need to? All it takes to discredit all of PG is to have David Shurter speaking and shown on the MSM and NO ONE will even consider PG again. Or, they can just insult Neil Wolfe and have him get butthurt and start screaming and chasing people around. This is going to be a farce...again.
Sure, as soon as we have enough evidence that can prove a lot of this stuff beyond a shadow of a doubt It has to be enough to where even a sleeping "normie" is able to grasp it. Unfortunately, instagram pics that say suspect and nasty thing are not enough to convince most people. There honestly just isn't enough. People are still so brainwashed that it is next to impossible to reach them. Here is what I would do:
1. Get rid of Pizzagate and Pedogate hashtags. Rename it all together. Americans United Against Human Trafficking? Americans Against Child Abuse? Something sanitized. Something catchy. I would have to think about it.
2. Get reputable mainstream advocacy groups involved. Anyone invited to speak, would not be "fringe". They would need to be everyday normal people. We aren't trying to convince ourselves. Having David Seaman speak will be nice for us, but the media will just slander and discount (like they already have.)
3. No mention of SRA. No mention of God/Jesus/Religion. Not everyone is a Christian, and the message needs to appeal to as many people as possible.
4. No politics. Period. No one ever needs to speaks of politics when discussing these events. This is NON partisan, period. This is the one thing we should all be able to set aside our differences and come together for the common good.
5. Create a simple and easy to digest website. It must be 100% factual and to the point. No theories. We can theorize here, not in public.The site would be officially branded. Marketing is extremely important.
6. Create a simple, unified message. Every person fighting for this cause would be well versed. No straying from the message. This is about getting as many people under our umbrella. We have our bullet points backed up by facts and data. All of us can then speak about it and sound knowledgeable and respectable.
7. Organize. Create volunteer positions and fill said positions based on a persons experience and desire. Good at twitter? Twitter relations manager. Good with email? Email communications manager. Everyone knows what their role is. The messaging comes from the top, and is spread throughout the entire organization.
8. Treat this professionally. This needs to be taken seriously, and treated seriously. I would focus on getting everyone to focus.
9. For financing, offer to take donations, as well as selling shirts. I would have everyone wear one solid color, and have t-shirts created with the "slogan" and whatever hashtag we choose. All of the proceeds would go to setting up the event. Anything left over would go to expanding operations, or else donating the money to another advocacy group. No one gets paid, ever, period.
10. Have volunteers run security. Find someone with security or law enforcement experience that could then do a small on the spot security detail training. Get the volunteer security team t-shirts that say EVENT SECURITY on them in bold white letters.
11. Write all of this into a structured business plan. Planning is supremely important. If you do not plan and organize, the results are poor or even damaging.
12. Create a short 1 minute professional looking commercial. Spread the commercial to as many content creators on Youtube and Facebook as possible and have them all released on the same day under creative commons license so that they can be freely shared. This way, you create a social media blitz.
13. Press release. Write a professional sounding press release, and get it spread out to all of the MSM and alt media platforms. Make sure that EVERYONE knows about it.
That is a start. I am sure if I put more time into it I could think of many more ways to go about it. We need to take the stigma off of PG, not add to it. The mainstream public already thinks we are a bunch of nutbag conspiracy theorists, so why would we want to show them that we actually are a bunch of nuts? If we keep ACTING like we are fringe, we will continue BEING fringe, and no one gets justice if that is the case.
Your message is SO MUCH stronger when it is about positive steps forward like this. I haven't read it all but I liked what I read. I will give it further attention and read the whole thing.
Look I've been there - I used to go nutz on all the "LOOK HELP STARZ = SATAN!!!" posts trying to tell them they made us look ridiculous. But eventually you just have to put on your boots and wade into the mud.
I agree that a speaker like James Woods for example why not? or someone else is better than that guy and his video. but I am not organizing it. I use dto be afraid here every day that allowing all the anti semitic posts and other bigoted stuff was going to do this place in (it would have been easy) but it never did. I even get that when the mods saw that they professionally didn't want to be looked at as sponsoring an unknown but they are cowards too and went way overboard with all that propaganda sounding smear stuff and now won't back down and take at least all the stuff that was wrong about the first protest off - I asked Vindicator today about editing that stuff very nicely - Crickets. KevDude also suggested she poll about that freaking nightmare sticky - haven't heard a thing.
So with all your ideas maybe if you can't execute them you could just pick one or some to execute, write a post about it, do something positive. Just picking at the upcoming protest is a waste of your energy. It is going to happen and if you live only for I told you so, you are wasting your obvious talents.
Hope that helps even a little. It's not that we don't get your point or where you are coming from, it's that we have to just do that dam protest anyway. The more good people there the better.
I am a positive person, but I am also realistic and base my beliefs and thoughts on objective truth. We need to question EVERYTHING, including our own thoughts and actions. The biggest thing I hate about the truth community is that it has become more like a religion, instead of rigorously going after the truth. Look how pissed everyone got in response to my disagreement. Never called anyone names, never disrespected anyone, yet I still got called a shill. It's the same thing with all the shooting false flags. If you do not say that every single event is a staged nobody died false flag, you get called a shill.
The first step to personal wisdom is to be able to question your own thoughts and actions, including when you are wrong. Truth is truth. If we are to vocalize our support for the truth, we must be loyal to the truth and ONLY the truth. Even if it means your opinion of the truth is unpopular.
you have to be honest the way you went about it was irritating and you know it. I didn't see it all go down, but I've gone and done a lot of reading through the posts and you weren't some maligned sweetheart that just tried to get some reasonableness going, so let's not play games okay. You have made your point, it isn't getting through, and at a certain point it becomes almost like trolling. Don't jump down my throat for saying what it looks like, yes you have every right, etc, but you approach isn't working so you need to rethink it. Again I am only trying to be helpful and if you keep right on as you are fine by me everybody gets to do as they please. Good luck and carry on.
no no you were definitely not - it was a pre-emptive move because I said "it becomes almost like trolling" I didn't want that to upset you and then have you take a position of, "how dare you call it trolling when I'm just saying my piece." I didn't see this comment till just now, sorry not to clear that up earlier.
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newworldahead ago
Too bad the mods decided to not support this event. I understand their reasoning but don't agree with it. There will always be a risk that some people try to hijack a movement and derail it... it's not a reason to discourage good and honest people to attend this event.
I don't live near this area at all and it is physically impossible for me to attend, but I wish there will be a huge turnout.
Oh and by the way God just called and confirmed his presence.
WolvesAndSheeple ago
I don't think the establishment will do anything to derail it. Why would they need to? All it takes to discredit all of PG is to have David Shurter speaking and shown on the MSM and NO ONE will even consider PG again. Or, they can just insult Neil Wolfe and have him get butthurt and start screaming and chasing people around. This is going to be a farce...again.
VieBleu ago
ok we get it, Can you help organize the next protest and find a better speaker? Offer to help make it better.
WolvesAndSheeple ago
Sure, as soon as we have enough evidence that can prove a lot of this stuff beyond a shadow of a doubt It has to be enough to where even a sleeping "normie" is able to grasp it. Unfortunately, instagram pics that say suspect and nasty thing are not enough to convince most people. There honestly just isn't enough. People are still so brainwashed that it is next to impossible to reach them. Here is what I would do: 1. Get rid of Pizzagate and Pedogate hashtags. Rename it all together. Americans United Against Human Trafficking? Americans Against Child Abuse? Something sanitized. Something catchy. I would have to think about it. 2. Get reputable mainstream advocacy groups involved. Anyone invited to speak, would not be "fringe". They would need to be everyday normal people. We aren't trying to convince ourselves. Having David Seaman speak will be nice for us, but the media will just slander and discount (like they already have.) 3. No mention of SRA. No mention of God/Jesus/Religion. Not everyone is a Christian, and the message needs to appeal to as many people as possible. 4. No politics. Period. No one ever needs to speaks of politics when discussing these events. This is NON partisan, period. This is the one thing we should all be able to set aside our differences and come together for the common good. 5. Create a simple and easy to digest website. It must be 100% factual and to the point. No theories. We can theorize here, not in public.The site would be officially branded. Marketing is extremely important. 6. Create a simple, unified message. Every person fighting for this cause would be well versed. No straying from the message. This is about getting as many people under our umbrella. We have our bullet points backed up by facts and data. All of us can then speak about it and sound knowledgeable and respectable. 7. Organize. Create volunteer positions and fill said positions based on a persons experience and desire. Good at twitter? Twitter relations manager. Good with email? Email communications manager. Everyone knows what their role is. The messaging comes from the top, and is spread throughout the entire organization. 8. Treat this professionally. This needs to be taken seriously, and treated seriously. I would focus on getting everyone to focus. 9. For financing, offer to take donations, as well as selling shirts. I would have everyone wear one solid color, and have t-shirts created with the "slogan" and whatever hashtag we choose. All of the proceeds would go to setting up the event. Anything left over would go to expanding operations, or else donating the money to another advocacy group. No one gets paid, ever, period. 10. Have volunteers run security. Find someone with security or law enforcement experience that could then do a small on the spot security detail training. Get the volunteer security team t-shirts that say EVENT SECURITY on them in bold white letters. 11. Write all of this into a structured business plan. Planning is supremely important. If you do not plan and organize, the results are poor or even damaging. 12. Create a short 1 minute professional looking commercial. Spread the commercial to as many content creators on Youtube and Facebook as possible and have them all released on the same day under creative commons license so that they can be freely shared. This way, you create a social media blitz. 13. Press release. Write a professional sounding press release, and get it spread out to all of the MSM and alt media platforms. Make sure that EVERYONE knows about it.
That is a start. I am sure if I put more time into it I could think of many more ways to go about it. We need to take the stigma off of PG, not add to it. The mainstream public already thinks we are a bunch of nutbag conspiracy theorists, so why would we want to show them that we actually are a bunch of nuts? If we keep ACTING like we are fringe, we will continue BEING fringe, and no one gets justice if that is the case.
VieBleu ago
Your message is SO MUCH stronger when it is about positive steps forward like this. I haven't read it all but I liked what I read. I will give it further attention and read the whole thing.
Look I've been there - I used to go nutz on all the "LOOK HELP STARZ = SATAN!!!" posts trying to tell them they made us look ridiculous. But eventually you just have to put on your boots and wade into the mud.
I agree that a speaker like James Woods for example why not? or someone else is better than that guy and his video. but I am not organizing it. I use dto be afraid here every day that allowing all the anti semitic posts and other bigoted stuff was going to do this place in (it would have been easy) but it never did. I even get that when the mods saw that they professionally didn't want to be looked at as sponsoring an unknown but they are cowards too and went way overboard with all that propaganda sounding smear stuff and now won't back down and take at least all the stuff that was wrong about the first protest off - I asked Vindicator today about editing that stuff very nicely - Crickets. KevDude also suggested she poll about that freaking nightmare sticky - haven't heard a thing.
So with all your ideas maybe if you can't execute them you could just pick one or some to execute, write a post about it, do something positive. Just picking at the upcoming protest is a waste of your energy. It is going to happen and if you live only for I told you so, you are wasting your obvious talents.
Hope that helps even a little. It's not that we don't get your point or where you are coming from, it's that we have to just do that dam protest anyway. The more good people there the better.
WolvesAndSheeple ago
I am a positive person, but I am also realistic and base my beliefs and thoughts on objective truth. We need to question EVERYTHING, including our own thoughts and actions. The biggest thing I hate about the truth community is that it has become more like a religion, instead of rigorously going after the truth. Look how pissed everyone got in response to my disagreement. Never called anyone names, never disrespected anyone, yet I still got called a shill. It's the same thing with all the shooting false flags. If you do not say that every single event is a staged nobody died false flag, you get called a shill.
The first step to personal wisdom is to be able to question your own thoughts and actions, including when you are wrong. Truth is truth. If we are to vocalize our support for the truth, we must be loyal to the truth and ONLY the truth. Even if it means your opinion of the truth is unpopular.
VieBleu ago
you have to be honest the way you went about it was irritating and you know it. I didn't see it all go down, but I've gone and done a lot of reading through the posts and you weren't some maligned sweetheart that just tried to get some reasonableness going, so let's not play games okay. You have made your point, it isn't getting through, and at a certain point it becomes almost like trolling. Don't jump down my throat for saying what it looks like, yes you have every right, etc, but you approach isn't working so you need to rethink it. Again I am only trying to be helpful and if you keep right on as you are fine by me everybody gets to do as they please. Good luck and carry on.
WolvesAndSheeple ago
I wasn't jumping down your throat ?
VieBleu ago
no no you were definitely not - it was a pre-emptive move because I said "it becomes almost like trolling" I didn't want that to upset you and then have you take a position of, "how dare you call it trolling when I'm just saying my piece." I didn't see this comment till just now, sorry not to clear that up earlier.
No it was a good discussion.
WolvesAndSheeple ago
Gotcha. I am not trying to troll or disrespect anyone.