Thanks for resubmitting with the links. I intuitively feel Voodoo is up to no good, but have yet to find the direct connection. I want to badly. The best I found was that Alefantis knows Scott Cummings (Scott's daughter is Alefantis' god-daughter), and Scott and his wife own the daycare that could be looked into more. I knew he had that coffin making company in PDX as well. Anyone connected to Alefantis is suspect in my book. Still nothing direct yet. Have you searched for the previous Voodoo sub discussions? That is where things were left. EDIT: I forgot the search feature has been temporarily disabled by PuttitOut.