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dFrog ago

Very nice. I sincerely hope we get to see Kubrick's original cut some day, if it even still exists.

ScientiaPotentia ago

Have you seen the long cut version where you split the screen and start one side at the beginning and the other at 1:30mins?

I watched it and it was confusing at times but there are many scene which have unmistakable messages

For example;. On one side Bill is being lectured by Zigler that "He doesn't know what kind of people he is dealing with!!" and in the other side it is showing the scene with the pedophile Japanese business men being caught with the 12 yo girl. The answer; the type of people Bill was dealing with are pedophiles.

Another example is in the final scene of the movie Bill and wife are in the store. Their daughter disappears with the 2 old men from the party earlier. The opposite scene is Bill and Wife talking about betrayal. Bill later checks on his daughter asleep in her room. Above her bed a painting spells S-E-X. Message: they sold their daughter to the cult.

There is no doubt Kubrick was killed for making this movie.

Mellowmountain ago

I hope it's out there somewhere. But I still think there's so much in the version that was released.

I think this is why Kubrick shot the scenes so many times. Actors reported that he would reshoot scenes over and over and they were often very similar takes. I think Kubrick knew they would fight it from coming out, and he overshot so that If they tried to delete footage, he'd have hundreds of alternate takes so that he could re-edit it. He was just building a mountain of evidence.

Proii_Pariah ago

Ya know, in The Shining, Kubrick would change small elements of the scenery from shot to shot as a vehicle to evoke the ghostly spookiness he wanted to create. I wonder if he might have been tweaking set elements in different takes and the actors just weren't observant enough to realize the subtle changes.

FeLpZ187 ago

How is that spooky?

Poot_McGarvey ago

If the background areas in a scene are subtly changing, in a way that is almost perceptible but not quite in focus, its more likely to give viewers a uneasy feeling about the scene.

fartyshorts ago

I know there's some really surprising examples in The Shining that make you go "How the hell did I not notice that?" once it's pointed out.

dFrog ago

That makes a lot of sense. He's so detail-oriented, I would pretty much expect him to operate that way.