IF you accept the Vault 7 release as truth, then you now must realize Pizzagate is a struggle between the people and the CIA (pizzagate)

submitted ago by Justaryde

So Vault 7 illustrated to the world that (for the period covered 2013-2016, and likely for far longer) the CIA had access to ALL Windows enabled devices, iPhones, Skype, cars/trucks/planes (OnStar, etc..), medical devices, smart devices and appliances, etc.

Thus, THEY are FULLY aware of any and all human trafficking, pedophilia, child sacrifice, etc conducted either online or in microphone/camera range of any of the above devices.

That said, not only is pizzagate/pedogate already a global scourge, but it now clearly has perhaps the most capable and entrenched private wet-work army and intel service as it's gatekeeper/enabler.

Keep in mind that Wikileaks is a ROTHSCHILD operation, making this all the more curious....

These are from 2012...

http://www.abeldanger.net/2011/02/wikileaks-rothschild-operation-swiss.html

http://theglobalelite.org/wikileaks-is-a-rothschild-operation/

http://www.nwo-news.com/2016/06/02/wikileaks-is-a-rothschild-operation/

Highlights:

–a sister-in-law and second cousin of the Rothschilds posted bail for Julian Assange

–The Economist (a Rothschild magazine) gave Assange its New Media Award in 2008

–Wikileaks used the law firm Fox Rothschild to overturn a judge’s ruling to order a web host to shut down the Wikileaks site

– The Guardian and The New York Times, two of Assange’s media partners, are linked to the Rothschilds

–The owner of the mansion where Assange was eventually put under house arrest has links to Rothschilds

–Assange’s lawyer is also Rothschilds’ lawyer

–US Senator Joe Lieberman who was ultimately responsible for making Assange the largest media personality of the decade, is a member of the Council On Foreign Relations (a Rothschild organization)

So you have the Rothschild contingent using wikileaks to burn down the CIA, while the CIA has been enabling and protecting the global network of human trafficking and pedophilia (as well as ALL other crimes the Vault 7 capabilities betray them as having access to and record of...

Very strange days.

Just know that pursuing pizzagate is now also pursuing the CIA who has done nothing to expose it, while possessing untold years of evidence, globally.

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GeorgeHodelDidit ago

I have felt for a while that Pizzagate was not meant to get out in the WikiLeaks drop before the election. But the hive mind of humanity figured out the pizza code words and spawned the Pizzagate story. The group that is behind Trump wanted to use the potential blackmail of pedophila to force the Soros side of the Illuminati to allow the wealth to come back to America. I dont think they ever really intended the kid raping and sacrifice and eating to get out.

Its like two mafia groups battling it out for domination. And one group seems maybe a little bit saner but likely is still just as devoted to many of the Illuminati´s goals. Trump seems very devoted to GREATER ISRAEL and war with Iran. He also is rattling the war drums against China. So I hope Trump is legit but I do have my fears.

Amino69 ago

To me the motivation of these leaks appears to be a chance to shift focus from the NSA/GCHQ to the CIA who have been part of the major political narrative being fomented by the media both mainstream (agenda) and independent (observation) for some time now. This strikes me as a plausible and shrewd strategy to apportion blame to an agency that has widely been observed acting reprehensibly for decades. My intuition tells me that the CIA is being placed in the crosshairs and from its inevitable dismantlement, a new, more covert, more insidious agency will be born. Thus I feel the Vault 7 leaks are a distraction and a decoy.

There are also many questions regarding WikiLeaks that need to be addressed but some of the most pertinent are, what was Cass Sunstein's (WH official 09-12) involvement in the early days of WikiLeaks? Why in the past has the legal expertise of Alan Dershowitz (staunch Zionist) been sought by WL? These two questions more broadly refer to a conflict of interests that WL has displayed over the years. And finally, why is Julian Assange so reluctant to discuss and is openly irked by the suggestion that 911 was a false flag? This is surely the litmus test as to whether someone is controlled opposition or not. 911 is now basically a closed book to anyone who's looked into it!

These links elaborate on the points I have raised,

http://tarpley.net/2013/06/19/how-to-identify-a-cia-limited-hangout-operation/

http://tarpley.net/2011/01/20/wikileaks-cognitive-infiltration-operation/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/07/08/fake-and-faker-assange-and-snowden/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La3AiTmIWwYYouTubeYouTube

http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-how-the-cia-invented-conspiracy-theories/

GeorgeHodelDidit ago

Yes once you start questioning everything you doubt everyone. I would love to trust Alex Jones, Trump and Steve Piezenick but hell......I doubt them all now.

Amino69 ago

Healthy scepticism and cautionary trust of everyone is key to remaining objective and I echo your sentiments about Trump, Jones & Piezenick.

TreborPJ ago

Wish I had enough comment karma to downvote shills like you. What are you actually trying to argue?

Votescam ago

Finding it difficult to go all the way with the OP, but who knows? Really think that the story of human trafficking and organ trafficking was getting out there.
Some groups of people had to be really disturbed by all of that and wanting to get the public in on it. I think the story of pedophilia, SRA and eating was already out -- it just wasn't out there strongly enough to hit the public consciousness. Allegedly, this is info released to Assange, not something that they select. As Assange has said before when asked why he wasn't reporting on other issues, he responded that WikiLeaks reports on the information that they get.

There is an ongoing war for control of our government and intelligence. But there's no guarantee that either side is the good guys. What is clear is that the public has no control over our government as that was taken in '63. Nor do our elections give us any control since 50 years of voting on hack-able computers. We have absolutely no leverage over elected officials. UNLESS we stop cooperating with capitalism. That's our only road out of this.

The Wild Card is Global Warming. And Trump represents the side which doesn't wasn't the public to have confirmation of it. Why? Because capitalism would be over in the next 2 minutes. I think we have to look at all of this cashing in of chips as being spurred on by Global Warming. All of the "terror" fakery working as attempts at distortion to hide Global Warming. And the final cards they may actually play in order to keep the public from rising up over Global Warming may be WAR. War with Russia -- and China if they have to do it.

I do NOT however think that pizzagate/pedo-gate is distraction. It's real. And I think Podesta's email "password" was the key to opening up this thing. It's also heavily CIA/Gestapo and heavily against intelligence spying on the public. Because we see this in the new release which links CIA/MKULTRA and CIA/runaway spying on public. BOTH are anti-CIA.

We need to keep looking at this and discussing it. We will figure it out. And hopefully with more help from WikiLeaks.

9217 ago

OP is a shill.

OP exposed themselves by using Trump as an insult. OP should keep Buzzfeed as a dayjob.

OP stated: "If you want to trust wikileaks, the cia, trump, alex jones, or whoever you wish, go right ahead."

https://i.imgtc.com/D7971UK.png

You guys are all falling for a Brock Shill because he used a nice title to get you to mistrust wikileaks. Convenient, four days after Vault 7 with 99% of the content yet to be seen. And with OP's account three (oh, I'm sorry, FOUR hours) hours old. I'm sure those intentions were altruistic though.

Justaryde ago

Question everything, you won't hurt my feelings. But to do so INCLUDES wikileaks/assange, no?

"The CIA is pizzagate." Exactly. We agree. I fail to understand, however, why you think wikileaks is not part of the grand charade as well though. There are no true threats to the system other than us. Not some 'leak platform' we are conditioned to believe is the truth, over a long con, and now that we have been swayed wholesale to 'believe; them, what better tool/platform could there possibly be for tptb to incept/engineer/sway people now.

For someone so distrusting, which you should be, how can you be so trusting of what many of us can plainly see would be the perfect platform to be used by 'them' in wikileaks? How can you/we trust ANY sources? ESPECIALLY one who's figurehead is so easily 'touchable', and who publicly and blatantly associates with 'their' assets and representatives.

I lump all of them together yes- if you have heard of them, they are likely controlled or compromised, and the larger their reach/audience, the more important they are for tptb. If that makes you think I am a shill, I am curious to whom you think I an aligned. I think ALL government, ALL media, and ALL electoral politics and parties are controlled, illusory charades. The government is in the business of Global Human Livestock Management.

Government literally means 'mind control'. Govern- to control, Mente (from the latin 'mens')- the mind

I also condem ALL Central Banks and the UCC and Maritime Admiralty Law that connects to and enriches them, off of our lifelong debt servitude.

I am for exposing ALL criminality- human/drug/weapon trafficking, money laundering, extortion, bribery, mind control manipulation through the media, poisoning though foods/vaccinations/pollutants, etc, and ALL bloodliners and their minions. And letting the people decide how justice be served, not their courts, their LEO's etc...

If you think someone is paying me to say that, you are quite wrong. That said, if you know of anyone paying to state this positions, sign me up! I will post and post and post it.

Votescam ago

Not accepting anything -- I'm countering what the OP is pushing and maybe someone will read what I'm saying.

There will always be questions about Assange -- like is he even still alive? I sure hope so!! I wish we had 100 WikiLeaks.

Keep on tellin' it -- !!! :)

1NationUnderAGroove ago

Assange did a video link interview on Australian TV (Channel 10 - The Project, I'll try find the link) and I swear it was some sort of hologram .. his hair was 'glitching' like bad computer graphics

samhara ago

could very well be. They do TV Video Fakery all the time. It happened with HRC.

I'm thinking HRC may have a lot of doubles.

When George Webb mused that he couldn't understand how one person, HRC, could do all she did in 107 countries, I started to think.. Hmmmmmm.

Votescam ago

Yes, there are a few of them with interviewers or visitors, but none of it has the same feel as the old ones when he used to pose with visitors, relaxing and chatting and pics taken of group together. I'm hoping this latest release might tell us whether it is really him or not.

If they had him, they'd be trying to buy time imo. To catch others who might be passing on info. And also not to have his supporters rising up.

One of the last ones I saw here seemed especially odd because in both cases he was in a room with a window where curtain was drawn back somewhat/looked like maybe 3rd floor, but could be 2nd? The other one was large window with very thin curtain at window, you could see the buildings across the street. If he's on third floor, maybe that is OK. He has to try to get at least some sun and light.

Sad that we have to continue to wonder whether he is safe or not.

9217 ago

:) Me too. I just hate lies that are framed as truth. And the CIA IS the enemy. The substance of the post had nothing to do with the CIA but everything to do with smearing wikileaks. The this post functions to BENEFIT the CIA.

(Hi Langley, Fuck You and Fuck David Brock. Also you make shitty memes.)

Justaryde ago

Apparently you neglected to read the OP: So Vault 7 illustrated to the world that (for the period covered 2013-2016, and likely for far longer) the CIA had access to ALL Windows enabled devices, iPhones, Skype, cars/trucks/planes (OnStar, etc..), medical devices, smart devices and appliances, etc.

Thus, THEY are FULLY aware of any and all human trafficking, pedophilia, child sacrifice, etc conducted either online or in microphone/camera range of any of the above devices.

That said, not only is pizzagate/pedogate already a global scourge, but it now clearly has perhaps the most capable and entrenched private wet-work army and intel service as it's gatekeeper/enabler.

And then, I went on to ALSO question wikileaks.

Cheers.

9217 ago

I have said about five times now.

If you know anything about the CIA you know they participated in this. Your post is misleading in that it shows part of the truth. Lie by omission and then smear of Wikileaks.

So apparently you've neglected to read the multiple times I've stated the above sentiments. I read the OP, I understood the OP, and I also read and understood your pseudo intellectual comments.

You're still a shill.

Justaryde ago

"If you know anything about the CIA you know they participated in this. Your post is misleading in that it shows part of the truth. Lie by omission and then smear of Wikileaks." I AGREE the CIA participated in this, as I accept Vault 7 as truth. How do you interpret that as a lie? Then in addition, I posted 2012 information illustrating wikilieaks ties to Rothschild, which I also find dating as there are no such things ass coincidence IMHO. As a CT'er I question everything and trust nothing. Thus, a seeming 'white knight' savior of truth resource like wikileaks , by the measure of common sense in addition to this connections is, to me, too good to be true.

You are a waste of time, as you refuse to even consider this as a possibility. I am far from a shill, as EVRY possible angle or agenda that would have interest in paying for position representation is one that I am against. You keep shouting 'shill', but never once say who would benefit from the reality presented my posts, nor have you stated any consideration for what if wikileaks is a compromised platform.

One of us (me) is saying question everything, while the other is saying 'if you think wikileaks is compromised YOU are a shill'. Which one sounds more aligned to an agenda or paradigm. Again, I stand for questioning everything, you stand for questioning everything BUT wikileaks. A bit strange for a Conspiracy theorist, no? Perhaps you do not consider yourself a CT'er, I do.

9217 ago

I stated the CIA would benefit from your post.

I questioned the timing of the creation of your account 3 hours before your post.

I questioned you posting this thread 4 days after Vault 7 with 99% of its content yet to be seen.

By encouraging distrust in wikileaks you encourage distrust in whatever the rest of vault7 reveals. Which in turn benefits the CIA/ whomever is exposed.

You say question everything, then state that you accept Vault 7 as truth.

I trust wikileaks' 10 year flawless record of publishing verified material. If it was not for their credibility and the credibility of the Podesta Emails they published, pizzagate would not exist.

So, to a discerning reader, you are attacking the foundations of pedo/pizzagate. "trust no one" - "believe nothing" - what you effectively mean is, don't trust wikileaks emails which are the strongest piece of evidence we have in a fight against the most powerful criminal elite in the world.

Your description of all living people lacking credibility while the dead are/were credible threats via their death creates an outcome without any possibility of "live acquittal."

samhara ago

Good point on the "Only if you are dead can we say you spoke truth" Reminds me of Midevael trial of alleged witches.. If they drown they are pure, if they survive they are guilty.

Justaryde ago

Okay line by line so we can conclude.

  1. I do not see how the CIA benefits from being charged with complicitness and collusion with pizzagte crimes and myriad millions of others.

  2. What does my tenure have to do with the content? I only ever post once with one handle, then move on to the next, as I do not trust Voat, not any other CT forum, within which I only every post anonymously and from behind a proxy. What that has to do with my belief that Vault 7 is real, and that the CIA is then involved in EVERYTHING is nothing.

  3. Vault 7 and everything that wikileaks or any other source divulges SHOULD be distrusted and scrutinized. Why would we feel any different about this source as opposed to another. ALL should be treated with speculation and cynicism IMHO, EVEN THOUGH I do at this point accept the portion of Vault 7 released as truth.

  4. Yes. I accept it as truth. I question the why and who are revealing it. Additionally, I do not suggest anyone do or think what I do, I am merely suggesting to use common sense and come to ones own conclusions.

  5. As is your choice. Nothing wrong with that. I am merely suggesting that we consider the who and the why behind the info, NOT that the info itself is inherently flawed. More the 'Cui bono' element of everything.

  6. Perhaps that is one interpretation. To be clear, I AM 100% behind the exposure of pizzagate and pedogate and ALL of its constituent parts. What I am trying to impart is that wikileaks is not to be trusted. Meaning, that the intentions, and perhaps true puppet masters behind it, are not what we are led to believe. The information, however, does appear to stand up to scrutiny over time. Again, I am suggesting we not trust that it is what we all wish to believe it is, on our side. It is a very real possibility to me, that it is just another element of social engineering targeting us. It can only work if we believe/trust it to be what that want us to think it is. And that can only happen by building itself up as legitimate, truthful, and accurate. Is it beyond the realm of possibility that it is a wolf in sheep clothing? A operation? And intel platform? Certainly not.

  7. And that is my opinion. Everyone has one. We do not need to share the same ones, but why not consider those outside of our own.

Cheers.

samhara ago

  1. They don't benefit. They didn't do the leaks.
  2. People who are new don't have a reputation yet, so they are more suspect.
  3. People have to prove things to themselves. There is a net of data points that all fit.

I've been calling out Fake / Staged events for years now. I've studied them closely. I've made long lists and compiled evidence. Our Forum was taken down Dec. 10th soon after I started linking here.

We found incidents of wierd Media coverage around Pizza since Dec. 2015.

One of our members who lives in St. Louis felt he could discern what he called a Pizza Cult. So we started collecting data. I thought it was more or less a lark. But as the data started to accumulate I realized there was something weird going on.

So there is a Nexus of Data points. It's not just one data point.

I study the fake events.. And ironically all the people who opposed me and claimed all these staged events [GLADIO] were real as dipicted on the Mainstream, are the very ones now called "Pizzagate" fake and staged.

It is a Brock talking point: "it's a LARP!". And people are taken in by this and do believe it. Beliefs are very strong. And people can tenaciously "know" things that are indeed unfounded beliefs only.

I distrusted Assange and Snowden and all the rest of the whistle-blower Media darlings because I knew they failed to mention anti - war, and the Elephant in the Living Room , 9/11..

I knew they were working for someone and I never followed it. Also the "Guy Fawkes" mask is the Cabal making fun of everyone who wears it. Since it's the mask of a patsy.

Now my thought is like this: This thing has been planned for a very long time. It's only gotten this far because of the protection of it - for whatever reason; some people might claim G-d, but I'm more likely to think insiders ..

If Trump is going to end up rounding up people on the Bush / Clinton / Obama Crime Nexus domestic terror list. If the Soros trained liberals get in mobs and start to kill Trump people and take back control of the goverment. Well, then I could say I was wrong. So what. But I don't think I am.

Especially in light of this which was written 10 years ago regarding the attitude of insiders vis a vis 9/11 . And how they were planning at that time to clean up the shame. The writer is an ex member of the W. Bush Admin.

http://imgur.com/8S0RFPO

Wikileaks could've been first phase of the "Take back our Rights and Save ourselves movement"

I believe Wiki changed brands when "Assange" was taken from the Embassy. My working assumption is that he was rescued by the good guys.. He himself was likely sold by a breeding and child trafficking cult.

http://www.leavingsiddhayoga.net/unseen.htm

Excerpt from UNSEEN, UNHEARD, UNKNOWN by Sarah Moore (Hamilton-Byrne)

Four.. For me, since I've known from my research for a very long time how big are the lies out there, I trust the Wikileaks. Does anyone question people and get called on the rug for believing the fucking bull dung Fake News , which is everywhere! Are they asked to prove the Foundation of the Belief in it? No never. It's taken as axiomatically true.

I know the motive for all the False Flags [GLADIO - take away guns, soften the population for Fascism ] . What is the motive for the Wikileaks dump, if it is not real? I fail to think of one.

[Maybe to give one faction power over another? Or to get back at enemies.. That's only plausible for the original Wikileaks - Not for the Vault &7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fCESxU1Ccs ]

One may be blind to the motive and still know if an action or event was done / occurred or not. You look at the evidence - but that is only if you have evidence.

There is no evidence that the Wikileaks dumps are fake. It's just speculation.

So in the case where you lack evidence you, at least, need to provide a plausible motive..

Can you?

There is massive evidence that the Mainstream is fake, And we know the motive!

Five. Yes, exactly. Can you describe a plausible motive for faking it?

[To me, the whole "introduction of doubt" is a psy-op ;

Mostly people who introduce these kind of questions / doubt - these same people want you to disbelieve everything to prove your cred..

But don't question the mainstream in the same way.

Where are the pointed questions and never-ending doubts about the New York Times?

I could waste the rest of my life chronicling the "Lies of the NY Times" and still only get one percent done.. Why is no one talking about that? e.g. How they cover for War? And Lie every day?

Six. The constant harping on distrust without discussing the material and, as others have said, when there has not been time to examine it all, in any case, is 100% out of Brock's Blue Book.

I'm refraining from calling anyone a "Brockette" but you can be brainwashed and influenced by them without being them. That is their whole point - to propagate a viewpoint. That's why they call it "Propaganda".

Brock and his Blue Boys [or whatever gender assignment they prefer] are trying desperately to dampen this.. Trying to make people feel they will be subject to a "GOTCHA" moment.

Tell me : Who's going to say "GOTCHA?"

This goes back to "what is the motive?" Some people claim it's to keep everyone's eyes away from something else going on, i.e. the Bankers stealing the wealth - but that itself is an element of Pizzagate / Pedogate!; so the logic there does not hold.

Seven. Anything anyone says is just their opinion - there is no outside authority. ,Remember that. And if you cite a source - that is someone's opinion too. So what?

Justaryde ago

You do see that I am CONDEMNING THE CIA FOR INACTION ON PIZZAGATE AND MYRIAD OTHER INFORMATION THAT THEY WOULD BE IN POSSESSION OF REGARDING INTERNATIONAL CRIMINALITY...

AND

Pointing out the obvious- that wikileaks (nor anyone else, but especially them, is to be trusted as a force for good, even though they are exposing the evils of the CIA.)

Yet somehow that makes me a shill? For who? Who benefits by people not trusting ANY sources? Surely NOT those who would have interest in controlling said sources, the narrative at large, or the general tenor of the consciousness and desire for uprising, which falls perfectly into the problem reaction solution formula of social engineering. No, must be a shill...

You are missing the mark.

samhara ago

"Who benefits by people not trusting ANY sources? "

Chaos Benefit.

People need to have Convictions! . If you can't sort truth from fiction you need to study some classical arts? Grammar

Logic

Rhetoric.

What is the point of your trust? What is the outcome? If we read the Wikileaks, study it, sort it, strain it, digest it chew it.

What do we have to trust it?

Are you implying that?

If you think it's FakeNews then ignore it, who cares?

But why does it bother you that other people study it?

Justaryde ago

I dont know where you get the impression that I am bothered by people studying the content- I do so myself...

My point is to question the motivation, timing, and orchestrators behind the revelation of the information, the platform itself.

Conviction: a strong persuasion or belief I disagree that people need beliefs. People need knowledge and wisdom, which come from facts, and personal experience. Beliefs are something else entirely, and do not have to have anything to do with the truth. I do not suggest anything outside of ones own personal experience or one's intuition/common sense/gut feelings be 'trusted'.

Again, I did not suggest the content is 'fake'. Rather I encourage everyone to question the intentions and puppet masters of the source(s).

Votescam ago

Yes, agree -- and the OP should be under even more criticism for its attempt to smear Assange.

As someone pointed out, not even 1% of Vault7 has been read or analyzed, as yet -- !!

Other than the Founders, the most serious betrayal of the nation (and now eventually the world) was the setting up of the CIA via Allen Dulles ... and Dulles served Elites all over the world - the very Elites who had put Hitler in power.

CIA has always served Elites -- See: Brig. Gen. Smedley Darlington Butler https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylc=X3oDMTFiN25laTRvBF9TAzIwMjM1MzgwNzUEaXRjAzEEc2VjA3NyY2hfcWEEc2xrA3NyY2h3ZWI-?p=Brig.+Gen.+Smedley+Darlington+Butler&fr=yfp-t&fp=1&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8 Butler is the guy who lays the cards on the table re our government/MIC serving Elites.
Read his "War is a Racket!" on line and very quickly read. Smedley is also the guy who broke up the attempt to assassinate FDR https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AwrBT8Uu6sRYCRAAwTFXNyoA;_ylc=X1MDMjc2NjY3OQRfcgMyBGZyA3lmcC10BGdwcmlkAzVCSTMzVnhtVC5pYnZ5enVRRmM3VkEEbl9yc2x0AzAEbl9zdWdnAzQEb3JpZ2luA3NlYXJjaC55YWhvby5jb20EcG9zAzAEcHFzdHIDBHBxc3RybAMwBHFzdHJsAzU0BHF1ZXJ5A0J1dGxlciUyMGJyb2tlJTIwdXAlMjBhdHRlbXB0JTIwdG8lMjBhc3Nhc3NpbmF0ZSUyMEZEUgR0X3N0bXADMTQ4OTMwMDE1Ng--?p=Butler+broke+up+attempt+to+assassinate+FDR&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t&fp=1

Keep in mind that our Founders didn't do what your teachers told you they did -- rather they created an Elite patriarchy, endowed them with land grants, gave them immense influence control over our "people's government," the nation's wealth and natural resources. Our Founders protected the system of Slavery for Elites which guaranteed the Civil War separating the nation North/South which continues to echo even today. And continued on with genocide vs native Americans, kidnapping them and forcing them into "Church schools" where they were abused in every way possible -- hangings, beatings, murder, sexual abuse. See: Where White Men Fear to Tread by Russell Means.

Also if you can See: The Devil's Chessboard by Talbot

:)

druhill007 ago

Yes using early assange rothschilds connections doesn't verify implication imo. Surely any person in the world that they view as a potential tool of power they will attempt to control. Hence working with him. But really can't see how his current actions fall in line with globalist agenda

Votescam ago

Agree with what you're saying. And purpose of what the OP did seemed mainly to raise questions re Assange. Very much hope someone is feeding him enough on CIA to dent it a good bit - while hoping for total shredding.

:)

Justaryde ago

Again don't trust me. But in the same vein, don't trust anyone, including what you really want to trust.... Get it?

Votescam ago

No one trusts you.

Justaryde ago

Why would they trust me? They need to trust their common sense.

9217 ago

"don't trust me." <---> "don't trust anyone."

To have the cake or to eat it, that is the question.

Justaryde ago

Neither man. What is so difficult to grasp here? Question everything, trust nothing. Use your common sense, intuition, and instincts.

Everything is against us.

9217 ago

Thank you for these resources I will look into them!

Votescam ago

Stay in touch :)

pizzagun ago

Big things always have inauspicious beginnings. Podesta emails lead to the worldwide Pedogate simply because an IT guy working for Podesta accidentally said "this is a legitimate email" to a phishing attempt. If it werent' for these words by the IT fixit guy we would never be where we are today! So we can all thank a clueless IT technician for the treasure trove we received.

JasonHeywardsBeard ago

This would explain Hillary's war-hawkishness and her willingness to coordinate with many like minded republicans when it benefits her. Playing both sides.

shoosh ago

I've been thinking about this for a long time too. The factions have in-fighting but the Rothschild group likes to sponsor both sides to the middle, funding and arming AlQuaida, Isis for two examples. They have a twisted and perverted propensity for making citizens into ignorant and useful obedient slaves.

I've wondered about Julian Assange role in this play, but on introspection it appears to be self revealing in line with history repeating itself. https://medium.com/@sebastianedward/mk-ultra-project-monarch-and-julian-assange-ad2aa42ba1a4#.4krludzb6

I don't think pizzagate was meant to gain public protest with any type of longevity, similar to Belgium's short-lived protest or the UK's tolerance in spite of msm not even attempting to hide the facts, These leaders don't know what to do with this pizzagate wild card and are trying to manipulate it to their advantage.

They've always used men, women and children as pawns and war soldiers and causalities in their game and they've never had any ethics with which to gauge or measure. Their game rules has always worked to produce order out of chaos. They produce the chaos and control it with order, usually mass genocide.

What are these diabolical evil things playing at now.

Leaders don't care that they use children as pawns. At least that much should be clear to the public but the public are still sleeping and can't see it.

truthvibe ago

sometimes i wonder if Julian Assange even knew about p-gate when he released the emails... had he figured it out from the emails or was it just a fortuitous accident by hive mind? to me this seems a fundamental question.

IlluminatiKing ago

I am sure he knew the pedo elite, but not so sure he made the same connections we did on the Podesta emails. Even the wikileaks account found those suspect emails, "interesting."

truthvibe ago

mmmhmmm. i think you are right. he knew about the pedo elite the same way David Icke knows, but maybe didn't know about the particular criminals (podestas, clintons, et al) possibly implicated by the particular emails he released. there was lots of fishy stuff in those emails, so his instincts were right either way. we think.

palmitespo910 ago

Oh here's another thing. Here's a quote from your article that you referenced, @shoosh

Although the admitted goals of the projects were to develop torture and interrogation methods to use on the country’s enemies, some historians asserted that the project aimed to create “Manchurian Candidates”, programmed to perform various acts such as assassinations and other covert missions.

Boy I'm pretty sure that sounds about right.

samhara ago

Manchurian Assassins were always a fail. They use cultists and psychos for that. They can break a mind but it's hard to create one The person they use for killing has to be trustworthy.

shoosh ago

Yes, when we look at how many people are apathetic, desenstized we can see leaders use the same type of techniques on a wider social scale. The survival instinct kicks in even though people are involved in something that is harmful. Ritual programming on small scale alternates drama, pain and reward polarities too, as part of disorientation toward personal ethics. Moral relativism produces an excuse to remain engaged in sado while upholding it, enabling it, denying it or excusing it.

Maybe the deepest type of love is to look within and identify these broken components, stand up and make a different choice.

What will it take for one to make different choices?

How far will humanity push itself to wake up?

palmitespo910 ago

I want to state clearly that I do not condone violence and I believe it is not the way to be on the right side of history.

That being said, and take this to the bank, we are going to have to get our hands very dirty for this to finally be taken down once and for all. It is going to get way worse before it gets better, and right now I think we are in a situation of the "calm before the storm." I believe one of these days, someone in the right place is going to say the right thing at the right time, or we are going to uncover something more damning than we previously have, and we are going to take the country and the world back by storm. That's my prediction.

Tyranny-News-Network ago

It's also possible that the key may simply be a brilliant marketing campaign. Make truth and justice (in the real world) seem hip and intriguing. Just something to get the ball rolling.

palmitespo910 ago

Violence is spread worldwide, and there's families on the street.

We sell drugs to children now, oh, why can't we just see?

That all we do is eliminate our future with the things we do today.

Money is our incentive now, so that makes it okay.

But I believe that love is the answer. I believe that love will find a way.

-Blessid Union of Souls

TweedleDee3000 ago

I think your observations are right on. I don't think they meant it to get out either though, because of the desperate scramble to lable it "fake news". I think it is two mafia groups battling, each exposing damaging info on the other.

GeorgeT ago

This is the game. Alan Watt's Cutting Through the Matrix covers this topic daily. Alan used to be a regular on Alex Jones show before Alex went all in on Trump.

Freemasonsrus ago

What group do you see as being behind Trump?

redditsuckz ago

What group do you see as being behind Trump?

This group;

The Rothschilds - George Soros - Sheldon Adelson

TRUMP IS THE SWAMP: Trump's Jewish Elite MAFIA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcd-yvudYSg

Justaryde ago

Chabad Lubavitch to name one.

GeorgeHodelDidit ago

Steve Pieczenik was CIA and CFR. Says he left in 2012. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Pieczenik https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpNMW74TRiU This is him speaking with Alex Jones.

He was a CIA psychiatrist? He likely was apart of MKULTRA type programs. He seems to KNOW Obama is CIA and says Obama´s mother and grandparents were also CIA. Alex Jones makes statements occasionally about Pedophilia but they never talk about the Rothschilds or Jews or the Masonic control. They hint Trump was DRAFTED to run by them two years ago. This might be a move by Israel to control the growing anti Globalist movement. A way to build a GREATER ISRAEL and leave the monetary control of the world still in the hands of the Globalist.

Freemasonsrus ago

Definitely believe the link to Obama and his lineage. I've studied that enough to know there was a definitive link between grandparents and the "little red church" in WA as well as his mom being involved in microcredit before anyone understood what that racket was all about. And BHO himself was always the classic sociopath. People who idolize him always force their own ideals onto him, as if he represents those things, without any evidence he is what they assume he is. Like a blank sheet with no real values that people than can just formulate in their own minds. Psychologically speaking it's fascinating, but real world it has been a shitshow.