Michael Hastings Was A Government Agent About To Disclose Pizzagate Abuse- Killed by Vault 7 Tactics And Covered Up By Wife - Explosive Alex Jones Today (pizzagate)

submitted ago by VieBleu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppMpfVgejuc (Commercial Free Version) Tue, 7 March, 2017

The whole show is quite intriguing as AJ and guests disclose more behind the scenes knowledge and background info about InfoWars itself and also the white/black hat Deep State fight going on right now and the strategy behind the Vault 7 dump.

At about 19:15 "Do you want them to release how Obama, had Michael Hastings blown up?" with Vault 7 style tactics, taking control of his car. AJ states that Michael Hastings was a government agent that "learned it all", his wife's denial on CNN, and that Hastings was ready to turn and disclose to the public what was too horrible even for those who deal in death - "the abuse of children". 20:37 "And so you already see them being arrested by the thousands all over the country..." and not covered by MSM.

33:00 Roger Stone's twitter account is suspended he is on Info Wars with his updates on "The cusp of the greatest political scandal in history" regarding Deep State spying on President Trump.

44:33 - Dr. Steve Piescniak on Vault 7 - "The reason these links were given was to simply take down the CIA."

EDIT: I'd like to add that for those who don't like the messenger AJ because he may have intelligence links himself, I say that if you actually watch this linked video AJ addresses IN PART how intelligence became interested in his output, and came to start informing him. I do not expect someone who delivers information on the internal war between white hat and black hat intelligence to have no contacts with intelligence - that wouldn't make any sense at all. It does not prove that AJ is disinfo right now at this time because he is informed by intelligence operatives. What he has done over the course of a 20 year career is not within the scope of this post, and frankly is not relevant anymore. What he is doing today is what is making a great deal of difference, if you are happy at all about Trump winning the election over The Establishment, for example. Infowars role in that is undeniable.

Also, if you want to see what AJ is doing but skip the vitamin ads, this link to commercial free broadcasts is invaluable. (if you hit an embedded ad, just skip forward) https://www.youtube.com/user/RonGibsonCF/videos?spfreload=5

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V____Z ago

Michael Hastings was a govt agent? LOLOLOL

This seems a case of projection.

I'm sure he offered some proof for this outrageous statement, no?

VieBleu ago

that's what you get with Alex.

You watch for the long game - most of what he has said in the past labeled so nicely as "LOLOLOL" actually has been shown to be true.

But take it or leave it, if you don't trust him as a source - hey at least you got a laugh today!

V____Z ago

I can acknowledge that most of his statements are verify-ably true, and perhaps he even offers proof once in a while as we are all required to do, but i am concerned with this particular statement and don't think it's too much to ask for a source. I followed MH like a hawk during his life, and followed Hastingsgate, arguing that indeed this was a hit and his car was wired to explode. So it is entirely ludicrous to hear suddenly that he was a govt agent. He was OUTING govt agents. He was one of us, real people.

So I need anyone claiming he was not actually one of us, that he was an actor of sorts, less than honest, to offer hardcore proof. Or at least some. I know that the guy Alex just fired, the ex military guy who discovered something about pizzagate (and was let go from InfoWars the following day) claimed after MH's death to have been Michael's friend. I remember MH's family denouncing him, and that there were questions about the truth of his claims, that perhaps he and MH weren't as close as he claimed.

Anyway, there is a lot of weird stuff going on, with i think a govt intel 5-D chess game that none of us could ever really have a handle on.

But what bothers me the most is that I think Michael would consider this sacrilege. He would never work for the US govt. His wife was said to be CIA, and was meant to control him or something. This has been claimed anyway. If you see her on TV the week after his horrific death, you;ll see why. She's 100% fine and dandy. It's bad. Very unsettling to watch. And painful to think this sweet, good, honest man thought he was married to a woman in love with him. But his marriage seems to have been a lie.

On today, the day the world finds out just how evil the CIA is, Alex drags Michael Hastings name through the mud by possibly insinuating he worked for/with these creeps. No matter how much they offered him, he would never work for them. He lived for, thrived on, taking the establishment by the balls and squeezing relentlessly with truth and his deep investigations, and incredible journalism.

the ones who are murdered ARE THE ONES YOU CAN TRUST. He was not a govt agent, or he would be alive today like Alex Jones.

VieBleu ago

Hey I'm all for questioning, and all of your questions are valid. The only thing I have to add right now is that I know for a fact that a lot of CIA assets are placed in the media and in journalism, so it isn't beyond the pale for Hastings to have been CIA. Also I'll add the way his wife acted tells me, she was handled as a CIA wife could be. A regular stellar journalists wife IMO would have been outraged at his death and wanted an investigation.

Also, as things have progressed, Jones has become fairly mainstream at this point and also has had a LOT of vindication of many of the things he was called a nut for saying. He has a lot of eyes on him now, so I don't think he would say that carelessly, I think he said that very purposefully in fact.

Normally I'm not sure how I would have gotten a discussion about VAult 7 on this forum going without being deleted, this statement offered me a chance to do so, so I took the opportunity. So consider it "breaking news" about Hastings that definitely gives his death a pizzagate spin that we maybe can dig further into. Actually, maybe you should think about doing a submission about it especially if more comes out because you have that background of interest in him. I actually saw the place his car crashed - it was a ridiculous firebomb that felled a very very old and sturdy palm tree and left blackened soot like nothing I've ever seen on a basically residential street.

V____Z ago

It's fine you posted this, i'm just asking if he offered proof. He did not. @wecanhelp can you flag this "accuracy in question"?

Just because it's possible he was a CIA asset (because some journalists are, and he was a journalist) I don't think we have evidence to make this claim about him, and I really don't think he would like this, or being represented by Alex Jones.

We need to flag this until proof is brought forward. Maybe it could be removed until that happens. Maybe Alex could be contacted, and then whatever his source was needs to be evaluated as well. But right now we have a shock radio host making a wild claim. This man has an 'ex' Stratfor agent working for him, and his own father and half his family are CIA. This man thinks James and Comet are probably innocent, and says that the govt may have simply set them up by planting fake stuff on the web. He is not a reliable source. One is needed for this claim about the late Michael Hastings. Proofs https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1618655

VieBleu ago

actually no, it is not innaccurate that Alex Jones said he was an agent. That is what the headline states. @wecanhelp

Alex Jones has had many things vindicated over the years, and we all know about how "fake news" is used to censor.

Don't shut down this discussion over what should be considered a breaking aspect of a story from a source that was 100% right all through the last election, and who hosts many people who are talking about the events of today accurately.

V____Z ago

I disagree with how you've framed my sentiments, but I'll let that go. I'm not trying to shut down anything, I'm just asking for proof beyond "Alex said". I think if the title of the post was "Alex claims ..." I would never have had a problem. Does that make sense?

VieBleu ago

Hi - yes it could have been a shade more clear. If we could edit, I could alter that.

V____Z ago

Ok I hear you. Yeah I think I could have been more clear too with my complaints. The title does read to me that it's fact, presented in AJs show, that MH is known to be a govt agent. So coming to the post to find out that it was simply mentioned, sans evidence, by AJ who is known to spread disinfo, even about pizzagate itself, makes me uneasy. I really don't think we should trust him when it comes to this delicate matter. He's given us too many reasons not to, and it's clear he's trying to not get sued. I'd rather listen to researchers/youtubers like David seaman who don't seem to mince words or skew the truth even if it upsets powerful pedos.

VieBleu ago

Ok I appreciate that - I am glad we are having this discussion. If I have written anything that comes off too pointedly defensive, let me know. It is not my intention. The internet can make for misunderstandings.

I am REALLY GLAD you are bringing up all this stuff because number one there is a lot of validity and we have to question everything. Also, there are people who are going to have your viewpoint and you are basically speaking for them. So remember, I am finding arguments to support my basic assumption that for now there is good info coming from AJ, but that doesn't mean I'm an Infowars cultie at all. A lot of times it is a hold my nose while looking through the garbage type thing.

I have a lot of thoughts about the link you provided. It looked like a sort of hit piece to me, but maybe I should rethink that. I just have so many counterarguments to some of it and it is so tedious to write it all out! I'd love to sit in a cafe with you over a carafe and actually just examine it together. anyway, basically I don't think him doing something cointellpro invalidates every thing he says now. But I do think he has had intelligence connections, even strong ones. That doesn't invalidate his message, as I argued to bopper.

Okay hope that clarifies some of my position. BTW I am listeningn to AJ today and nothing that great at all. He can be very uneven.

V____Z ago

At the end of the day, we are just here trying to save the children. There are agents working for the powers that be who will stop at nothing, and have unlimited resources, to hamper our efforts. When I try to poke holes in a source, it is not personal, it's born of outrage that there are liars out there who protect corruption. I hope none of my musings felt personal.

We wil never see eye to eye when it comes to Stratfor and the CIA, nor when it comes to people who've agreed to work as cointelpro. Again, this should never be seen as personal. We just have differing views. I'd love to share a carafe, however.

VieBleu ago

Hey we were a pretty good example of deep discussion without going personal. We are actually not just being long winded, we are trying to parse history vs present day activity on public figures because trust is in very short supply right now for good reason. We are dealing with a VERY confusing environment. A carafe it is - would probably take the edge off of a lot of the characters around here ; ).

V____Z ago

So well said, my friend. I congratulate us both. You know i'm a fan of yours anyway. Hopefully one day i can treat everyone equally, regardless of my personal feelings toward them, but i'm afraid i've got a long way to go.

Just FYI, i never got mention of this reply from you. I only found it by looking back through this thread.

VieBleu ago

yeah, I've noticed that too, I will miss about 2 or 3 out of every 10 replies for some reason.

bopper ago

I think the important thing here though, IMO, is what's a "carafe"? (Sorry, I used to read a lot of Dave Barry.)

VieBleu ago

carafe kəˈraf,kəˈrɑːf/ noun - An open-topped glass flask used for serving wine, raw milk or water in a restaurant buzzing cafe where poetics and politics are debated, maybe in berets. synonyms - jug, pitcher, decanter, flagon, crock, urn, small barrel ; )

bopper ago

I feel so old. Raw milk? Irony can be so ironic.

https://youtu.be/9hq5jZrFTbE?t=217

wecanhelp ago

I agree with @VieBleu's assessment that the title isn't necessarily inaccurate, as it mentions that these thoughts are coming from Alex Jones. We can't flair every Jones/Webb/Seaman post for inaccuracy, @V____Z, even though they usually don't provide verifiable sources. The community should know to take their reports with a grain of salt, and they're public personas in this investigation enough for us not to draw attention to that every time, in contrast with a one-off post that appears sourced but seems to come to unsourced conclusions, which is usually the case for this flair.