He talks about Cernovich in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dJtcbRYor8
This worries me, because he makes no mention of Cernovich's friendship with Alan Dershowitz, who is pedo buddies with Jeffrey Epstein. Here's the quick rundown for those that don't know: Cernovich is trying to get the sealed testimony of Epstein's accusers unsealed. His reasoning is 1st amendment rights. Cernovich has offered no proof that he's actually being sued by Epstein, other than a fully redacted document that doesn't even have his name on it. He also asks for donations on his website for his legal defense, which always raises red flags.
So, is this some type of limited hangout thought leader op to steer the "alt-right" online community? I'm talking about Cernovich, Seaman, MILO, Pettibone, Paul Joseph Watson, etc, who are always promoting each other, but seem to have no ties to people outside their group and no real insider information. Each of them has exploded in popularity recently, and Seaman has already been outed as a self-promotional shill.
All insights and theories are welcome.
EDIT: Giuffre's opposition statement posted by @JrSlimss in the comments http://pizzagate.wiki/images/7/72/Response_in_Opposition_to_Motion_to_Intervene_-_by_Mike_Cernovich.pdf
It clearly shows that Cernovich is not working on behalf of the sexual abuse victims or the interests of the people.
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Psalm144-1 ago
I have been following Cernovich for about 6 months now and based on what I'ver seen/heard I trust him. Is my trust in Cernovich foolish, is Mike untrustworthy? @darkmath
roundhouse1776 ago
I'm not going to outright call him a shill, but his actions as it pertains to the Epstein case are highly questionable. Please read this: http://pizzagate.wiki/images/7/72/Response_in_Opposition_to_Motion_to_Intervene_-_by_Mike_Cernovich.pdf
Psalm144-1 ago
Wow that is an incredibly thorough analysis. I will have to comb through it, in the meantime do you happen to have a SparkNotes version?
roundhouse1776 ago
It's not an analysis, it's the Response in Opposition from the lawyers representing Giuffre (Epstein abuse victim) to stop Cernovich's motion to unseal the documents. This alone proves that Cernovich is going against the wishes of the sexual abuse victims. Then, they make the case that Cernovich's motion is exactly the same as Dershowitz's (he tried the same thing as Cernovich but got denied) and then show evidence that Cernovich and Dershowitz are friends.
Dershowitz and Epstein want to unseal the identities of the witnesses, so they can shut them up, intimidate them, etc.
Psalm144-1 ago
Ok i got it, sorry I am not particularly up to speed on all these areas. So much info to digest and it is physically exhausting! Could there be ANY benefit to unsealing the documents? I.e. could it lead to further case details that could provide valuable to overall investigation? It does seem odd though that he would not respect the privacy of the victims... Then again, Mike does kind come across as one of those "fuck you feelings" type of guy. Whats to story on his recent tweet? He says Epstein is is filing "Secret legal papers" against him? https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/837745962445570049
roundhouse1776 ago
Cernovich has provided zero evidence that he's being sued by Epstein. The only thing he's offered is a redacted document and his word.
The benefit to unsealing the documents is that the public would get to see what's in them. This is Cernovich's argument, that they should be unsealed due to 1st Amendment freedom of speech right. This is against the wishes of the victims (who were minors when the abuse happened, thus why they're sealed), and greatly favors Epstein. It would allow him to prepare a better legal defense and also maybe even get to the witnesses and threaten/intimidate them.
Psalm144-1 ago
Interesting. Thanks for the insight. What independent journalists do you trust? Have any of them touched on the PG issue? It becoming very difficult to find public figures with decent/solid followings who have given PG a fair shake. Do you like Gavin McCinnes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-4Wp3VIluw
roundhouse1776 ago
I don't trust any of them, it seems everyone is pushing an agenda these days. There is a war raging for peoples' minds.
I take info from many sources, and then figure out the truth for myself. Blindly trusting any media figure is not a good idea. I like DrudgeReport for the daily headlines, and ZeroHedge is one of my favorite news sites. I used to be a big reader of Breitbart, but they've been pushing the pro-Israel pro-Trump agenda hard lately. I even go "behind enemy lines" on occasion and will read stuff like Washington Post. It's 99% garbage, but it's nice to see what narrative they're pushing and can sometimes find a nugget of info.
Can't say there's any specific journalists who I respect and would completely trust, which just shows the sad state of the media.
Psalm144-1 ago
What do you reckon the odds of a new civil war are? I see 1776 in you name so I have to ask...
It will likely be hidden behind a false flag attack right?
roundhouse1776 ago
Personally I'm trying to stay optimistic and hoping this disaster can be averted. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
As for odds, I don't know. They purposefully keep the country divided in half and at each other's throats, it's used to distract us from what's going on behind the scenes and the globalist agenda. I'll go with 50%.
I don't think they want civil war yet, because the half of the country loyal to Trump own all the guns. They want to discredit/disgrace him first.
Psalm144-1 ago
I have to agree with you on all accounts as scary as that may be. I feel like there is an undeniable buzz right now over PG and it is literally the most massive "elephant" in every room. Do think anything major will come of the Anthony Wiener hearing this coming tuesday? http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/federal-court-hearing-tuesday-march-7-clinton-email-case-judicial-watch-seeking-answers-abedinweiner-laptop-emails/
roundhouse1776 ago
Wow this is crazy, not 10 seconds after I replied to you, I got an email from the White House mailing list. The opening quote is "The torch is now in our hands. And we will use it to light up the world." - President Donald J. Trump.
Then the rest of the email is how we should be optimistic about the future of this country and how Trump is going to fix it.
I'm taking this as a sign from God to not let doubt creep in or waiver in my support of Trump.
Psalm144-1 ago
Incredible! I'll tell you what. I have always been a Christian but the past few years I had definitely slipped away from my faith. Finding out about PG, in a very weird way, has renewed my faith ten fold. I truly believe this is a spiritual war going on right now, there are some serious demonic forces at work here and I believe people like us (concerned Americans, truth seekers) are being called upon to shine light on this terrible darkness that has a stranglehold on our government and a big faction of our society at large.
roundhouse1776 ago
I have no idea, but I hope so. The 650,000 emails on Weiner's laptop could be the key to everything. Then again, if it does have damaging evidence, they'd probably never allow it to get released. It's probably going to take some patriot within the government to leak all this stuff to Wikileaks or someone else. Either that, or Trump needs to get to work pronto on draining the swamp.