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equineluvr ago

His former wife, Demi Moore:

zagreos ago

Thank you for your contributions to this thread.

His former wife, Demi Moore, was 15 years his senior, she 40 and he 25 (smacks of pedo).

Your other points were good, but I think comparing such relationships with paedophilia is counterproductive. Blurring the distinction between paedophilia and voluntary relationships between consenting adults has the long-term effect of normalising paedophilia — even if the distinction in this case is being blurred by condemning both as 'paedophilia', the long-term consequences of drawing such an equivalency will be the same.

Likewise, a 25 year-old male in a relationship with a 16 year-old female can be criticised for many other reasons but it would be a huge error to view such an individual as a "paedophile", since the relationship in question is a voluntary relationship between biological adults. In virtually all cultures (including Western cultures until about thirty years ago), such a relationship would be viewed as a normal adult relationship.

To lump relatively normal adult relationships into the same category as 'paedophilia' sets a dangerous social precedent that can only be harmful to children in the long run. This recent social trend by which the concept of paedophillia is continually expanded so that it includes normal or harmless adult relationships, makes paedophilia seem more and more normal to regular people. To speak of harmless adult relationships as "just another form of paedophilia", is to spit in the faces of the victims of real paedophilia.

No matter how you look at it, raping a five year old child should not be compared with regular adult relationships, regardless of the magnitude of the age discrepancy between the adults in question.

snowmelts ago

I agree with you partially, but how can you compare a 25 year old being with anyone of any age pedo? 18 is an adult anywhere.

16 year old is different, that is a minor and illegal in a 50 states. There can't be more than a certain age difference. I think it's something like 3 years. So a 25 year old with a 16 year old is absolutely illegal. Once someone is 18, no matter what the age difference it is not illegal and I don't think anyone would call it pedophilia.

It makes people like me who don't know a lot about this pizzagate stuff question it all when someone claims it's not illegal for a 25 year old to be with a 16 year old. Or that somehow a 25 year old man with a 40 year old woman is pedophilia. It makes people question if this isn't just a witch hunt of hated individuals. I am not saying it's a witch-hunt but I don't think saying this kind of stuff is helpful. I really didn't understand why so many people were opposed to this pizzagate. I mean who could ever be against stopping human trafficking and child rape but then I read stuff like this and I don't know what to believe.

Rmm ago

I strongly urge you to keep following the pizza gate citizen investigation. It is about the elite untouchable class using its power to enable itself to commit acts of unspeakable horror against the most vulnerable members of the population. We are talking about child (as young as babies) trafficking. These poor souls are sometimes bred just for that purpose. They are also used in snuff films and then just thrown away. All this has been exposed and yet somehow it's "fake news", because the media is controlled by these sick perverts. Comet Ping Pong has become important for its link to this class of people in Washington D.C.As hoers have pointed out, you don't get to own approx 13 pieces of hot d.c. properties and be known as the 49th most powerful man in Washington D.C. if all you are is a pizza shop owner---uhuh--the cash is coming from trafficking. However, "comet pingpong " types of places exist everywhere in the world.

snowmelts ago

I appreciate your calm moderate response. It isn't that I don't think human trafficking of children happens. It has to be the most abhorrent thing on the face of this earth. I am certain the elite are involved to some extent, it's common knowledge of their disgusting Lolita islands. But some of what I read reminds me of the 80's Satanic witch hunts. It seems far fetched to me that these sickos would be openly using "secret" symbols and posts on their Facebook page about abusing children. I don't believe in a room full of weirdos run the world with Satanic rituals. I think it's much more complex and actually terrifying than that. It scares me that it's a false flag to divide us. I will look further into to it. I have made a friend here on Voat who has given me places to start. I will keep an open mind. I did read some disturbing transcripts someone posted on v/pizzagate where some (I don't even want to call them human) was trying to buy little children. They were negotiating price etc. I couldn't believe what I was reading. That was obviously very real. But to connect it some Satanic cult or that they are ritually killing kids and using code words on Facebook and that they all meet at pizza shops is where I start to think, this is a false flag. I have tremendous respect for anyone who has the stomach to chase down this horrible human traffickers. But destroying anyone who doesn't fit into our political or social construct as a Satanic baby killer pedophile isn't helping these children. It is drawing attention away from the real traffickers. I hope I made sense. I am saying this because everyone I have talked to about this feels very similarly. Yes, it exists but there is also a witch hunt going on after those in the opposing camp. Maybe chasing down this kind of stuff starts making you see monsters in all the shadows.