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joey4track ago

This is again some more over speculation. I like your spirit but you are reading wayyy too much into this. I am a musician, I have played around the local music scene in NYC for almost 15 years and producing high quality music and music videos is much easier than it looks and extremely common. It's not hard at all to produce stuff like this nowadays. I hate to admit it but I really do like their music and it kinda makes me sick to my stomach, lol. Their videos are awful however. But really nothing to it, the fact that their music and videos are well produced is nothing strange in this day and age.

bopper ago

What do you think about the production costs of the video? Edit: Also, why are the Taylor Swifts etc. of the big-time music scene ... why are they spending so much on their music productions, if it's so easy? Just a question. I used to play also, years ago, never recorded but it would have been not high-tech, analog.

joey4track ago

Not as much as you think. Honestly this stuff isn't particularity hard or expensive to do these days and many lower level local bands I know have professional videos and albums.

bopper ago

Would you be implying that there would be (there is no) use for Muscle Shoals and Wrecking Crew quality musicians also? Just a question again.

joey4track ago

Honestly that depends on your taste in music I would say. But of course you will hear the difference if you were recording in a $20K per hour studio but what I'm saying is it doesn't take much to put out something of 'professional quality' on a lower budget. Those HB videos could have been done on 5K-10K or less depending on who you are working with. Many times bands will get discounted prices on production from their friends, acquaintances etc..

bopper ago

Still a bit confused, but thanks. It's hard for me to correlate "taste in music" w/ level and skill of musicianship, and again I am wondering what is the difference between the 'superstar' recordings and productions and 'nobody's.' Are we not in need of George Martins or (excuse the name) Phil Spector's etc. anymore? Don't worry if you don't have time.

joey4track ago

Like I said that really depends on your taste in music. If you like huge production or not. Or if you like something in between. Big time producers exist because there is a market for that. There are also people who like more lo-fi sounding stuff like early White Stripes or Black Keys just to for example.

bopper ago

Okay, so what you're saying is that in your opinion we are not hearing "$20K per hour studio" quality with these CPP bands?

HunkaHunka ago

bopper, its the old 'baffle em with bullshit' strategy. They cannot see the contradiction of dog shit which is up to chin level immersion levels here.

On the one hand , everyone knows that there are STILL expert music producers like the Rivkin brothers around who can STILL sell their skills and expertise to movie studios and record labels

On the other hand, there are hot air shills here claiming that its all effortless 'in this day and age' and there is no special expertise or talent involved in earning millions as a music producer or video producer

lol, shills .

nailed again

bopper ago

They're not shills, but the whole thing (music quality, production) is still pretty confusing to me. And getting so caustic and angry about it really bummed me out. Oh well.