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HunkaHunka ago

Miltary intel used tortured prisoners for high risk suicide missions in WW1 - what use for tortured kids ?

with regard to the use of torture and trauma based brainwashing to control 'intel assets' and its possible connection to torture of children in Pizzagate:

Eastern State Penitentiary inmates and Kingston Penitentiary inmates and tortured psychiatric patients were used to storm the German front lines in the Battle of Passchendaele and the Battle of Vimy Ridge in WW1 http://letsrollforums.com//showpost.php?p=199427&postcount=424

http://letsrollforums.com//kurt-cobain-mind-control-t17443p44.html?highlight=kingston+penitentiary Group psychology experiments conducted by the military elite using psychiatric patients in the Civil War surely confirmed that an army platoon needed only one or two suicidally-programmed psychotic individuals to lead an entire regiment into what amounted to certain death, accompanied by coercion from the rear (threats of reprisals, court martials, accusations of 'desertion' and imprisonment or even execution by firing squad if they displayed cowardice and did not 'follow the leader' at the front.)

No one told them that the 'brave guys' leading the way at the front had been tortured for years in a coffin at Kingston Penitentiary and electroshocked at Rockwood, or buried alive at places like Eastern State Penitentiary and probably countless other institutions in 'preparation' for the big day.

Further , preliminary , ongoing (developing) research suggests that at least some, if not many , of the prisoners used in this capacity had been trained soldiers before being imprisoned, such as is the case with Eastern State Penitentiary inmate Harry F Gangewere, who was a dishonorably discharged soldier prior to spending ten years at Eastern State Penitentiary and then being sent into battle on the front line trenches of WW1.

please see the following links, important

http://letsrollforums.com//showpost.php?p=190333&postcount=385

http://letsrollforums.com/showpost.php?p=199426&postcount=423

http://letsrollforums.com/kurt-cobain-mind-control-t17443p39.html

http://letsrollforums.com//showpost.php?p=200852&postcount=428

Kingston Penitentiary military torture and mind control http://letsrollforums.com//kurt-cobain-mind-control-t17443.html?p=271231&highlight=kingston+penitentiary#post271231

Harry F Gangewere: https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=70783964

a place very similar to Eastern State Penitentiary in Austria, with very similar isolation cells, said to have been a prison for soldiers known as the Narrenturm

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"The five floors of the tower were divided into their separate departments. All the patients on the first floor were soldiers - or the so-called ‘military insane’."

http://letsrollforums.com//showpost.php?p=271232&postcount=1194

http://letsrollforums.com//showpost.php?p=271233&postcount=1195

http://letsrollforums.com//showpost.php?p=271242&postcount=1196

http://letsrollforums.com//showpost.php?p=271266&postcount=1198

http://letsrollforums.com//showpost.php?p=271276&postcount=1200

The Narrenturm was built in Vienna about, roughly, the same time that Eastern State Penitentiary

was built , and Benjamin Franklin had dealings with its builder Emperor Joseph II. He played chess with him when visiting him in Europe.

Which could have been the genesis of Franklin's idea to build Eastern State Penitentiary

along similar lines.

The implications then are that Eastern State Penitentiary may have intentionally imprisoned and tortured already-trained soldiers , for later use in suicide missions, and that the Germanic nations Germany/Austria were doing the same thing at the Narrenturm.

So WW1 and WW2 may have been planned genocides , using suicidally-programmed individuals on both sides. Essentially guaranteeing the mutual destruction of both sides.

If you find this interesting, could you help research this? For example, can you find out whether Eastern State Penitentiary had an entire ward or wing to house 'criminals' from the military? Kingston Penitentiary is factually documented to have had a section reserved for incarceration and punishment of Canadian soldiers.

HunkaHunka ago

The feminists have used the 'men are war-like idiots' propaganda to discredit men since WW1.

"Look at those violent, hysteria-driven male fanatics killing each other in the millions! WOMEN have to take control over from these morons or we will all die!"

"Men are testosterone-poisoned morons."

That is exactly the sort of feminist propaganda which our social-engineeering universities have been BLEATING INCESSANTLY at teen college girls for 100 years now.

If the feminists only knew the truth.

Which is that 100% of the war dead were either bribed or DRAFTED (forced) to go to their deaths.

Worse, most humans do not wish to kill, or to be killed by, other humans.

So the indescribably evil means by which these massive war casualties were brought about will never be told to same feminists.

No one will tell them that 100% of the young male soldiers were HORRIFIED by what they were being forced into.

No one will tell them that the men leading the charge at the front were the 'walking dead', men who faced being returned to prisons with coffin sized isolation cells and being tortured in coffins , etc. , if they didn't lead the charge.

HunkaHunka ago

then there are the poor DRAFTED Vietnam veterans , many of whom returned home after risking their lives, to survive hell on earth, only to be met with the scorn of hippie feminists.

Only to return to communities which were , increasingly, 'closed to males', essentially. Fake 'male serial killer' psy-ops, radical feminist agendas, etc., meant that returning to America meant mass unemployment and cultural ostracism. Second class citizen status for the 'violent, dirty males' basically.. No education. Returning to 'war footing ' urban economies engineered to function increasingly without men. A nation going berserk in its haste to de-industrialize and transfer all jobs to Japan, Taiwan, and Korea. A cult of feminists taught that males have all the advantages due to their gender, and that any man who was poor was surely only poor due to his own laziness and immorality.

Then the added insult of 'cultural marxism' thrown in, with the white feminists taught to despise their own race and to worship blacks, and the black feminists constantly told that black men are useless, violent sluts

strix-varia ago

Yes, remember fkg jane fonda during Vietnam. http://media.patriotpost.us/img/ref/hanoijane.jpg

HunkaHunka ago

Sharon Tate's rented home was a secluded Hollywood/CIA party house at the top of a mountain, which is why it was chosen as the setting to stage the fake Manson murders in.

secluded locale,

once home to HEnry Fonda, record producer Terry Melcher , and sundry others connected to the Manson hoax.

and get this, Terry Melcher knew Charles Manson, knew Jim Morrison, knew Sharon Tate, in fact Manson knew Jim Morrison through Terry Melcher, they were all part of the same psy-ops team. Manson wrote songs used in the Laurel Canyon psy-op. All indications are that he may have written the song 'Horse with No Name' , which was actually sung by Neil Young, who knew Manson. Sinatra and Jim Morrison both had the same hair dresser, Jay Sebring. All indications are that Touch Me may have originally been intended for Sinatra, and that Jim Morrison may have been copying an unreleased Sinatra demo version of the song when The Doors recorded it. Manson girl Lynette Fromme dated The Doors road manager Bill Siddons out of high school together.

see this link:

http://letsrollforums.com//charles-manson-jim-morrison-t31859.html?p=268657#post268657

strix-varia ago

Will check this out! I thought a Horse with No Name was sung by America?

HunkaHunka ago

I researched the hell out of that and found out that Horse with No Name was recorded in England , and I tracked the address of the studio they purportedly recorded it in and on what date.

Turns out Neil Young was ALSO in England at that exact time working on something just blocks from America's studio. America even admitted that "we took a lot of industry flack for that song, everyone was saying it was Neil Young who sang it"

So you know why , cause everyone in the know, in the industry , heard the truth, they all knew Neil Young had been in England with them..etc.

When you know something about the nature of what was going on at that time, that Laurel Canyon was a massive hippie psy-op which they wanted to dress up as a 'mass movement' , when it really was quite artificial....

you can figure out what was going on. They were constantly jumbling the same roster of people around from band to band, rebranding them as 'superband this' and 'new group that' etc. in a shell game.

And cobbling together and 'bringing forward' new guys and new bands like 'America' to flesh things out, to keep the illusion of 'growing trend or movement alive.

so it makes sense that they would 'loan' and 'move' material around to assist establishing new fake bands up the system, and the research bore that out too...

if you look up the album which Horse With No NAme appeared on, that was America's debut album , it was originally released in the UK about six months before it was approved for release in America. GEt this , Horse With No NAme was not even on the original UK debut album of America's! Then Neil Young turned up in England in the interim before it was released with......'Horse with No Name' added to it.

So do the math, it flopped in the UK and they knew they needed something pretty good to explain the 'new hit band' they planned to launch in the U.S....so ....in steps Neil Young to help out. and they claim it was sung by America. It's so obviously a Neil Young song , whether he SANG it or they both sang it together with America copying his voice...

and the research on Neil Young bears out that he was a big part of Operation Chaos. EVeryone knows Operation Chaos was created by British-AMerican intel out of London, who supplied the British INvasion intel bands the Beatles and the Rolling Stones to lead the way and create the long haired hippie scene. Along with the 5th Beatle George Martin of course and probably half of the Wrecking Crew. Elite talent .

So it makes sense that America;s first album came out of the UK , though the roster of America were all army brats who grew up on the same USAF base in the U.S., another giveaway as to who they really were. More sons and daughters like Tate and Morrison et al. David McGowans research on America points out that they had virtually no musical background or experience and suddenly became this massive hit band. He also points that Laurel Canyon hippie bands were famous for not being able to play live and botching many of their live shows.

and Neil Young helped out with the fake KEnt State psyop too, where they claimed four kids had been shot by the National Guard for no reason at an antiwar protest at Kent State University . Neil Young's song 'Four Dead in Ohio' was clearly calculated to publicize that event , and given the forced airplay it received.., obviously part of the psyop . KEnt State was the forerunner to all the other similar false flags like Columbine HS and Sandy Hook. its all the same process used, the same apparatus of planted cops, reporters, coroners and what have you used in all of these things.

Neil Young left all sorts of clues as to having been an agent in the Manson hoax, of course his admitting that he knew Manson. Then there's the creepy 'Down by the River' song , where he sings about shooting his lover, which again is calculated to resonate 'Manson' , and 'creepy stoner hippies in the boonies'; etc.

He was clearly a British agent who was always touching on dark themes of hippies, guns death etc. to build that whole narrative.

strix-varia ago

Well, I have a lot of reading to do. I will look at the links, but wonder where you got all this info? So you are sayin Neil Young was a British Agent? He is a bit of a nutcase now. Are you saying that Sharon Tate wasn't murdered and that the whole Manson thing was a hoax? Where did she go? I'm just realizing that most everything that is fed to us is pretty much fake!!! I have one more question. Did McCartney die and this is actually Faul McCartney that we are seeing these days? I am amazed at the level of lies. I call it a terrifying brilliant plan that continues on and on and on (and they have the ability to keep everyone quiet...all these people just silent).

HunkaHunka ago

I have never entertained the 'Paul is Dead' stuff really , intuition told me it was probably obfuscation to make researchers into other more plausible intrigues look foolish.

It was just a sort of a blind trail, leading nowhere really.

That was my impression of 'Paul is Dead', from what I saw.

I saw no plausible rationale for it , other than to preserve the purported 'profits' of the Beatles because Paul died, and they NEEDED him to keep making money.

That's the official story behind the theory that Paul may have died but been replaced by someone who looked just like him etc. ...

But....

The more I find out about the crowd of people who the Beatles worked for...(Windsor Castle) the more you realize that money is not an object at his level. These people PRINT money. Money is only their tool for control and manipulation. IF McCartney died in a car accident, they wouldn't miss the money, put it that way. They have all the money in the world. INFINITE money.

The world is their chess board.

Their only challenge is in figuring out how to USE money to preserve, enhance or acquire power.

Take Britain's assassinating JFK and then intentionally transferring the American manufacturing economy over to the Orient, for example.

Not just for money, or just for slave labor. But for other reasons too.

America's industry was destroyed as fast as the oriental manufacturing base which replaced it grew.

Two birds with one stone. Yank back control and ownership of global manufacturing from America.

AND

eviscerate America's growing economic clout and resultant political clout .

For another, to 'preempt' the anticipated rivalry from the Orient. The FUTURE rivalry.

So you can imagine the globalists eying up the orient and saying "hmmm, there's this huge number of smart people over there, peaceful, civilized, and they've got these areas where they grow opium and they are so damn smart ...they are GOING TO BE A HUGE pain in the ass in the future unless we move in on them now. We'll take them over now, while its still easy."

So a good chess player is thinking ahead, of course.

There were no Manson murders.

They could easily relocate Tate anywhere, and guaranteed that they could have probably moved her to frigging Toronto or Miami with brown hair instead and she would not even be noticed.

Another cookie cutter face in the crowd. Remember that she's not going to be flashy, or running around in a Ferrari wherever she goes.

Sharon Tate spoke four languages, which helps. Two years laying low in Brazil speaking Spanish would do it. Then move wherever she wants.

If she IS spotted, and anything about it leaks to the news?

It doesn't matter when you own the media.

You spike the story. No one ever hears about it anyway.

And YES, London DOES own the media. World wide. see:

The Charles Manson murders were faked:

http://cmkxunofficial.proboards.com/thread/11223/charles-manson-murders-faked